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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
7. And lastly, to the related Central Ministries
-Prakash Malle Gowda, throwing some light on the solution to the problem.
I see you have omitted the chief minister of Karnataka from the list. You have also omitted Mr Sidda Ramiah, the opposition leader. You have forgotten to add the actual solution to the problem.
PS: Do you really believe that the problem will be solved? I note that the no of flights between Managlore to Bangalore are now 5 a day. There used to be a time when just one flight operated by Indian airlines used to fly. Now we have two jet airways flights + 3 King Fisher flights. A day may come when there will be 5 more.
PS: How about a late night flight between Mangalore and Bangalore giving connection to some International flights from Bengalooru International airport? |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
They call it as Nellore rice in south and Mussury raw rice in north.
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That's great Dony Baab! You have almost stolen words from my mouth, especially as you described about Andhra food so perfectly!
I guess, we have many more like minded friends here in M.Com who appreciate, if not relish Andhra Food, other than yourself, Nagendra, Shenoy Maam and myself! |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 13, 2009 |
The facts you are talking about, it looks better in the cupboard... Alfred
Alfred, I am surprised at your limited grasp of Middle East politics. Unfortunately it is difficult to discuss with your blinkered views.
I was in Kuwait for more than 11 years & I know what I am talking about unlike probably you sitting across in the Emirates discussing about Kuwait. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
Those powders or chutney along with ghee and sambar should then be mixed with rice before eating.
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That particular powder is popularly known as Gun Powder! Deadly combination wid rice, ghee and sambhar!
So is the pepper rasam that they serve before meal as appetiser! |
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| Gopinath K, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
"Ye, America may be trying to recover some of their losses."-Alfred Rebello on US attack on Iraq and the oil deal.
Alfred, please read developments happened just in the last week of june in Iraq. If you have not gone through the details, please do not simply chew US paan masaala.
US was and is and will be interested only in oil business and not the democracy or any ting else. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 13, 2009 |
Melwyn, are you saying USA made a mistake liberating Kuwait? There must be some sort of discussions from both the parties because there is a cost involved. Also note it is Kuwait invited USA, USA did not force themselves. For me, USA gave Kuwait to Kuwatis and on what cost, it is for Kuwait and USA to agree neither for me nor you to decide nor our concern. Whole world does only talking but when it comes to do, they need USA and later blame USA when something goes wrong.
Do you know why Asif Ali Zardari accepted that their conutry created terrorists? The facts you are talking about, it looks better in the cupboard. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 13, 2009 |
“I agree with Shenoy Maam………At any Andhra Hotel in Bangalore, ghee will be poured heavily into the food. Those powders or chutney along with ghee and sambar should then be mixed with rice before eating”……Nagendra Shenoy, India: [RE: M’lore goes Andhra - Gateway shows how]
Talikg about Andhra Meals, thanks to You gentlemen for stirring my sub conscience desire to have an Andhra Meal...!!!
During my three years tenure while working throughout Andhra State in the early seventies, I started loving Andhra Food. However around Vijayawada and Vizakhapatnam, the preparations that go with the Vegetarian meals (known as Thali ) used to be extremely hot so much so that you could literally see many of the customers eating green chillies just like we eat bananas. However the rice they used to offer was of absolutely superb….so much so you could get its fascinating aroma as you approach the hotel but even when you sit on the table, you could just keep munching along till all other dishes were served. They call it as Nellore rice in south and Mussury raw rice in north. In the market to buy for home use … they used to be costlier than other varieties. In Madras city and even in Bangalore they used to serve the most superior of all varieties known as the Tanjore rice, grown in the Cauvery delta. Whenever I come for vacation I make it a point to enjoy Andhra lunch for a couple of days in the Andhra hotel opposite the High Court behind the YMCA. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 13, 2009 |
For example Kuwait. Also note, Oil is bought by whole world not only America. Ye, America may be trying to recover some of their losses... Alfred
Alfred, nothing is further from the truth than what you profess on EYT. From your comments about Kuwait I do not think you know much about US intervention in Kuwait's affairs, how much percentage of the oil goes to the US pockets, what is George Bush Senior, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Bechtel's equation in this, what vested & strategic interest did Kuwait offer to US, how much of the 1.4 trillion debt of Kuwait was repaid to US, as much as the next man.
And I certainly do not want to teach you if I can repeat your earlier quote because it is said, Tis’ better to be quiet and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt... |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
I find most of the posts by Nagendra Shenoy & Shenoy-India funny-Merwyn
Laughter is the best medicine. Laugh and be Merry Merwyn. No cost involved. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 13, 2009 |
I thought EYFT means Express Your Fundamental Thoughts, looking at your bias on certain surnames ... KRS
No bias towards names or people, I find most of the posts by Nagendra Shenoy & Shenoy-India funny. Now if you consider yourself a serious person then I am guilty of presumption.
Although I do concur that the funniest person was a certain friend of mine by name Quadros. What a pity he isn't here these days or he would have uplifted several Fundamental Thoughts on EYT... |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 13, 2009 |
the real point is missing in the wars you refer to. OIL. - Kiran, USA.
Kiran tell me how much Oil America took and how much America spent on Iraq, for their mistake though NOT intentional? I am saying though not intentional because, if Iraqis had to unite and rule their ocuntry in a democatic way immediately after liberating it, America would have left long back before spending that kind of money and losing their own people. For example Kuwait. Also note, Oil is bought by whole world not only America. Ye, America may be trying to recover some of their losses. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Jul 13, 2009 |
Osama, must have used Saddam Hussain ....With regard to Iraq, it may be a story on WMD, but the real fact may be because .... -- Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai
Too many "may be"s (speculative) and the real point is missing in the wars you refer to. OIL. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
England have narrowly escaped. There was no doubt that the Test Match belonged to Australia. The last 2 wickets on Day 1 cost them dearly an opportunity of scoring a huge first innings total. I felt they batted below average against a weak bowling attack.
It is told that KP-Johnson verbal spat before start of last day's play made KP play some rash strokes. When you are angry, your mind shuts and mouth opens. KP decided to speak with his bat and failed. KP is a brilliant batsman. After that obvious name and Kumara Sangakkara, he is my pay to watch batsman from today's era. I am still searching for his Oval Test of Ashes 2005 Day 5 innings which was also his maiden hundred. However he needs to keep his cool. It was a different series for him in 2005 and now he is a former captain and a trump card of the team. He needs to shun his larger than life attitude. He can follow the career of that great man which will certainly help him to study how to keep pressure, popularity and expectations aside and concentrate on his task. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
Where did your sences go when the Rathyathra by Mr. L.K. Advani was taken out - Arbaaz Khan
Arbaaz,
I was too young those days. Hence my senses would be with my parents. I was a naughty brat those days. Had I been left out, there was every chance that I would do mischief and come under the Ratha or cause a stampede. Hence I was kept home.
The only Ratha Yatra I attend is Kodial Teru. In case you want to know where I was during this Ratha Yatra as well, I normally used to be near School Book Company. See you next year. I don't attend the other 1280 Ratha Yatra that happens in India, including political Ratha Yatras.
Where did you go when Sangha Parivaar cadres blocking roads every now and then - Arbaaz.
Why should I go anywhere when Sangh Parivar blocks roads? Did you go anywhere when PFI blocked the roads? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 13, 2009 |
If you construct a house using others and if it falls do you blame yourself? - Alfred Rebello.
Definitely not Alfred. I know all the goodie goodie talks of 'Moral Responsibility', 'Accountability' should be thrown into thin air then. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Whether it is Authentic or not? Please read the link below. It is in Kannada Language.
http://www.kannadaprabha.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=KPN20090712235455&Title=National+News&lTitle=%C1%DB%CFo%F1%DE%BE%DA%DF%D1%DA%DF%A6%A7&Topic=0&ndate=7/13/2009&Dist=0 |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
I had thought of meeting in Madhavan's Village. Lucky me.-Nitsua
Did the mosquitoes spare you Nitsua? If you get fever chills and rigors, get a malaria test. Madhuvan village is full of mosquitoes which preferrentially bite the aetheists.:)
PS; I am not impressed by that place. By the way the restaurants in Mangalore need to pay more attention to hygeine and decor. Taste is very important but hygeine is the most important thing. Some times I wonder if Mangaloreans are really educated except in gossiping. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Gritty England force draw
I had the privilege to watch Collingwood play his long innings. England needs to be congratulated for forcing this draw. You rarely see this stuff from many other teams who tend to collapse on the final day. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
I thought EYFT means Express Your Fundamental Thoughts-Mr Kudpi
There are two more expressions for that F and Merwyn knows what they mean.:) |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
I think the webmaster needs to create a sub forum EYFT - Express your Funny Thoughts after reading serious posts, except by certain Shenoys ..
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Merwyn,
I thought EYFT means Express Your Fundamental Thoughts, looking at your bias on certain surnames! |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
I was under the impression that you belong to the same fanatic groug that KR belongs to.
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Being a self proclaimed atheist yourself, you don't have the guts to quote my name here, nor do you have the guts to post with your own name here, Mr. Austin Noronha!
I sometimes wonder whether you know the meaning of atheism at all! Maybe, you need the permission of your parish to express your candid thoughts here!
I pity you! |
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| Austin Prabhu, USA |
Jul 12, 2009 |
"May peace be on you. I just want to tell u that it was not muslims who bombarded on 9/11....it was the bush administration who did it...and it has been proved...." - Zohaib
Peace be with you too Zohaib, wow what an investigation! Was it done by Taliban investigators??? |
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| Zohaib, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
| May peace be on you. I just want to tell u that it was not muslims who bombarded on 9/11....it was the bush administration who did it...and it has been proved.... |
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| Kiran, USA |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Roshan Pais,
Yet another nice post filled with information.
Thanks. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Taliban was funded and trained by america. - Rasheed, UAE
Rasheed, first of all I am not 'sir'. The queen of England so far not invited me to give the title. Therefore, I am an ordinary man just like you.
Now to the point, I do not know whether you are aware or not, Russians invaded Afghanistan. And if Russians had to win the war over Afghanistan, they would have considered it as a communist country and spread communism, which Americans did not allow. At that time Osama Bin Laden fought with Russians with the help of America and saved from Russia. But after the war Ossama had other interests because Afghanistan had so much of armery left by Americans and the trained armed men, Ossama did not know what to do. He became greedy perhaps and thought of invading KSA. But because of Americans presence he could not do it. Osama warned Americans to leave from KSA but Americans did not. Then he threatened America and started hitting American interests in Yemen, Tanzania and Kenya. Still America did not budge. Then Osama went inside America to hit. And then Only America thought enough is enough and now is the time to teach a lesson to this guy.
Now, Osama, must have used Saddam Hussain and Saddam started with Kuwait but because of America, Kuwait is still with Kuwaitis. Eversince America did not inolve with Kuwaiti affairs. That time nobody blamed America.
With regard to Iraq, it may be a
story on WMD, but the real fact may be because many Iraqis who fled from Iraq because of Saddam Hussain's attrocities pledged George Bush. George Bush thought to give Iraq to Iraqis just like Kuwait. But because of inside differences among Iraqis, it did not happen. Iraqis started bombing each other once they got the country. Perhaps it was a mistake by the America invading Iraq to give Iraq to Iraqis without realizing the mentality of Iraqis. For the sake of liberating Iraq, America spent a fortune as well as sacrificed his own people. Now with regard to danger created by America as you claim, America went after only those who are danger to the society and peace. Now, in Pakistan and Iraq, Muslims are killing muslims using bombs and destroying mosques, why? In Afghanistan also it happens. There are moderates as well as radicals in every religion. In Muslims also there are moderates and America tries to protect them from the radicals maximum they can. These radicals use religion as weapon to get sympathy from the Muslim world. There are good people as well as bad people. Now, Pakistani President accepted that they created terrorists, Why? This is my opinion only without undermining anybody. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
US found that it’s astronauts were struggling to note down the observed Data using the pens manufactured in India-Ananda P.
Sorry for the error. It should have been "US found that it’s astronauts were struggling to note down the observed Data using the pens manufactured in US". |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 12, 2009 |
clear cut tactic to eliminate the poor by Sonia, Sheila and of course by the Messiah of the Labourers Mr. Oscar? _ Nagendra shenoy.
Nagendram, I hope you know that none of the above involved in the construction. If at all their involvement. which from now on. Let us wait & see. If you construct a house using others and if it falls do you blame yourself? |
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| Sudhakara Kotian, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
So sad that all your biased imagination is restricted only to BJP ruled states. Nagendra Shenoy.
We are learning it from you Nagendra. |
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| Austin Prabhu, USA |
Jul 12, 2009 |
| Wonderful poem - Mangalurina Rasthegallu - by Richard Palladka, Abu Dhabi. Great discription of Mangalore roads in monsoon season. |
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| Austin Prabhu, USA |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Dear Rasheed, why muslims from Pakistan harrassing, killing, bombing Indians?
Do they think India is also a Christian country or Pakistani Christians started this war against India? You cannot generalize and blame Christians for all the wars in the world. Prior to US support to Talibans, India was attacked thousands of times by terrorists from Pakistan. What business these peace loving Muslim terrorists had to bombard US facilities and buildings on 9/11? Why they are fighting themselves in Iraq, Pakistan, etc., even though they are themselves all - according to your statement peace loving - Muslim brothers and sisters? We need some civilization here! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Loha garam hai, maar do hathodi - Shenoy.
Thakur Saab to Jai and Veeru in Sholay, followed by "Mehbooba Oh Mehbooba......." |
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| Rasheed.K, UAE |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Sir Alfred,
I don't support wars. Almost all the wars were started by european powers by funding both sides of a conflict.
Taliban was funded and trained by america. They supported it. By your logic, america is also a terrorist country?
Sir - correct me if I am wrong. Have muslims gone around the world starting wars?
Look at the world wars. Look at the genocide of natives in america and australia. Look at the slave trade from afica. Look at Vietnam, Korea, Iraq wars. They were all done by christian-european nations. It is very very clear that the same forces are targeting simple living, humble muslim brothers now. In my opinion, they are the true terrorists. Am I wrong?
Islamic world has contributed so much to world in science, architecture, maths, language, arts, poetry and religion. Why can't we live peacefully in our own regions? Why do you send your armies and kill our brothers? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
It is the case of negligence or may be to save more money - Alfred Rebello on Delhi Metro.
So sad that all your biased imagination is restricted only to BJP ruled states. Don't you see this as a clear cut tactic to eliminate the poor by Sonia, Sheila and of course by the Messiah of the Labourers Mr. Oscar? |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 12, 2009 |
No Alfred, I don't wish to educate you. Time to time we need some humour & mirth on EYT instead of the mundane & long winded political, religious & of late, drinking & dining discourses.
I think the webmaster needs to create a sub forum EYFT - Express your Funny Thoughts after reading serious posts, except by certain Shenoys ... |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Natthulaal Jaisin Ho!'-Mr Kudpi
I know. I had modified it for simple understanding of Praveen Bhai.[Pintowadia] |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Oscar’s contribution -Dr Hegde
A Wilde dream? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
The incidence of prostate cancer related issues is very less in Japanese men. -Roshan Pais
Serum testosterone levels are less. That explains the low incidence. Afro Americans on the other hand have a very high incidence.
On a comparative note, Japan has the highest incidence of cancer of the stomach. It is related to their water which is rich in nitrite content. Their diet also has something to do.[We got to check on Sushi] |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
I am sure Jackie knows to dive wearing an underwear :-)))-Nagendra.
Yeah, a couple of years back, one of the web medias from our district bagged high TRP bay showing Oscar's pics with UW. It also published his 'Yogasana' postures and swimming skills.
hmmmmmmmmmmm... are you referring to that? |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Having come out of hibernation after a long time, I have just started writing with the pencil.-Merwyn Machado, Oz.
Merwyn,
After reading your comments, I remembered one of the major events in the space history.
It was during 1950s and 1960s both US and USSR were fighting for supremacy on space. This fight had tough competition to gain the control over the Space Technology too. US found that it’s astronauts were struggling to note down the observed Data using the pens manufactured in India. They came discovered the reason for the same too. It was due to lesser gravitational pull in the space, these pens were found nonperforming.
US spent millions of Dollars in research and analysis to develop a pen that could work even in the places with low gravitational powers. Finally they had their pen ready and they proudly announced the success.
However, Russians were not deterred by the same. They saved millions of Rubles just by using PENCILS in the Space. Mostly human beings think something out of the world for solving puzzles, when simple answers to the complex questions lie right in front. Sometimes, hibernation could also come as blessings. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Oscar’s contribution to our districts is a research topic.-Dr. Raj Hegde.
Dr. Raj Saab,
The researcher might go mad and stop his research work, since he won't find anything convincing to put up his point.
As somebody pointed out that Oscarji is a good man, he could be a good person by heart. However, not all good people can become good leaders. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Alfred, I apologise for wading in between your comments but that was one of the most funniest post I ever did see on EYT lately. - Melyn MAchado.
Then Melyn what is he doing? You may be knowing much better than me. Atleast educate few including me. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Mysore cops see Muthalik role in riots
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/13279/mysore-cops-see-muthalik-role.html
Muthalik (SRS) = Congress agent.
Who knew Congress was again behind all this. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
I am glad that I didn't meet that silent fanatic I had thought of meeting in Madhavan's Village - Nitusa.
May be you wanted to write 'Madhuvans Village' which is at Yeyyadi, or to make it sound more grand, on AIRPORT ROAD.
A simple typo error and yeah.... no proof required! :-) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Did you find any thing similar, with other Fernandes too? - Ananda Padebettu.
No Ananda. In any case, if there was to be a movie based on Oscar's life, Jackie Shroff can play OF. Do you remember Jackie in an underwear in "Tanha Tanha yahaan pe jeena....." from Rangeela? I am sure Jackie knows to dive wearing an underwear :-))) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 12, 2009 |
Nagendra, do you have any evidence to what you have said above? - Nitsua.
Nitsua,
No. I do not have any evidence. Neither do I need now. Whatever I know and speak about Hindu Mythology is from basic references to websites which is prompted by my own interest. Except for one of my grandma who got paralyzed before I could turn 2 and lost speech and then passed away when I was around 10, I haven't seen any of the other 3 grandparents. It seems most such stories or facts are told by grandparents.
I am yet to read books on Hindu Mythology written by credible and knowledgeable authors who have sufficient justifications to their claim. On reading them, I might also find out that most of the things which I knew earlier were wrong.
More than the story, I am more interested in the individual characters or the way they kept up their promises or the way their arrogance led to their downfall or respect for elders/Guru/Atithi/Mitra etc. I have even liked some lesser known characters like Bharata and Karna. They are like the Laxmans and Sehwags. Always under-rated due to the presence of biggies like the Sachins and Dravids around them. In today's world, if a son is deprived of wealth by his step-mother or foster mother, he might perhaps not even turn back at her even when she is in deathbed. But when Lord Shri Ram returned from exile, he first met Kaikayee because of whom he had to spend 14 years in exile and not Kausalya his real mother. It was to show that inspite of all the controversy and conspiracy initiated by her 14 years ago, I still love you and still respect you. Tidbits of wisdom is all I want to take from Hindu Mythology.
For entertainment and rain dance, I have Bollywood ra! :-) |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 12, 2009 |
What I know about Oscar now is, he is working for the betterment of labour class people all over India... Alfred
Alfred, I apologise for wading in between your comments but that was one of the most funniest post I ever did see on EYT lately.
Probably you have not seen the circus at Circuit House in Nanthoor Mangalore when the political big wigs were in town. I have enjoyed many a Venus & Jumbo performance after a beer at Outdoors or a chicken ghee roast at Mama Mia. Trust me, you would have enjoyed it too ... |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Fountain Pen
Ball Pen
Pig Penn
These are in vogue these days, Merwyn! Suggest the best!... KRS
Having come out of hibernation after a long time, I have just started writing with the pencil & will answer your question once I graduate to the pen. Until then leave the pens in peace & let the pigs rule the land ... |
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| Roshan Pais, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Nelson Says : If one eats too much food it is bad and if one starves, then too it is bad. Eating too much sweets, too much oil and ghee, red meat, fried food, junk food, tinned food like chips, etc., etc. can be harmful and disastrous.
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How much is too much ?
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One way to know this is to check your Body Mass index (BMI). This involves a ratio of height and weight. For Indians BMI should be below 23. (BBC see below for link) For French people –It can be up to 25 (Raj correct me If I am wrong).
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If we eat more than what we spend
(energy wise – hence calories) we will store the excess as fat and therefore have higher BMI. Higher BMI is associated with increased risk of Cardiovascular diseases, Type II diabetes and early death.
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A very interesting study on primates (monkeys) has some surprising results which supports what Nelson is saying. Just check out the pictures of 27 year old monkeys one fed 30% less calories and other allowed to eat to its fill over a course of 20 years. Both were fed balanced diet. If Shenoy sees the photos he will agree that there was no MALNUTRITION THERE! Just look at those amazing photographs and decide – LESS IS MORE (where food and alcohol is concerned). Amazing to see the well fed monkey looking so frail compared to a healthy one on lesser calories (see below for the link).
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Why does obesity leads to rapid aging or all other health issues?
Not all answers are available – but clearly this is in tune with age old Indian traditional wisdom – eating less when we age. I am not suggesting abstinence. But if we can cleverly managed to eat our food and not gain weight - nothing is bad. Infact in excess even Amrutha becomes Visha. Even life saving blood sugar – when it beomes excess damages every system in the body. We all need oxygen. The air we breath is not 100% oxygen. If it was 100% oxygen, it would be definitely toxic to us as pure oxygen gives rise to toxic free radicals and damages the lungs.
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There is some evidence for toxic nature of Obesity :
1) higher LDL and triglycerides.
2) its inflammatory ( heat – ushna?) fat cells release toxic cytokines which in the long run damage our arteries.
3)Today’s BBC has some interesting finding about a molecule called PEDF released by fat cells( see below for the link).
How else can we maintain our BMI?
Simple walk for an hour ( if time permits) is also good for getting the good feeling effect( release of feel good opioids) . Eating Soya containing foods ( by the way they are better than eating tomatos and their lycopenes) . The incidence of prostate cancer related issues is very less in Japanese men. Soya isoflavone called genestein has been extensively studied for its effects on cell metabolic pathways and cancer of the prostate. Drinking green label ( readily available in India) tea. Green tea contains a compound called EGCG (epigallocatechin gallate) – this is powerfull compound helpful in maintainence of age blood arteries and is anti-inflammatory. Our Indian diet is rich in Turmeric – which in itself is the king of all these good compounds. Lately eating salads with few strands of raw onions is considered very good ( north Indians do have this habbit). Raw onions contain querecetin – a powerful compound good for the cardiovascular health ( blood vessels).
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But all these things are usefull only when other criteria are met – that is your BMI is within normal limits, you do your daily walk, otherwise are healthy.
All these compounds fail ( just like that much touted “ resveretol of grapes” ) if we use them like Chappe chai and mitayi Laddoo.
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Us full links:
1.'Lower' Asian obesity threshold BBC July 9 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8141335.stm
2. How to calculate your BMI, BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8140109.stm
3. Proof mounts on restricted diet BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8141082.stm
4. Obesity health risk cause 'found' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/default.stm
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai, , UAE |
Jul 11, 2009 |
destroy Islam by using 'terrorism' as an excuse. - Rasheed.
Rasheed, you are mistaken here. Nobody wants to destroy Islam but those who terrorise the world using the word 'Islam'. Do you mean to say say Al Qaida and Taliban are true Muslims? If you say yes, then you are also one of the supporters of Terrorism. There are Muslims all over the world not only in Afghanistan or Iraq or Pakistan. Anybody goes after them unless they gives the opportunity? World is not for any religion but for human beings. Do you know who bombed world trade centre of USA? ANd if USA had to keep quite on this, these people would have gone still further. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Now, America and Europe are trying to destroy Islam -Rasheed
I see your point. However, do you think President Obama can be a peaceful president who can heal the wounds? Will the wounds heal over a period of time? Do you think America was after terrorism or Islam? If you want an example back home, take the example of Punjab. Do you think the late Mrs Gandhi did the right thing by blasting the temple complex and flushing out the terrorists? Sikhs don't think so. But does it justify the terrorism of early 80's? This world has seen more wars based on religion issues rather than any thing else. I am not sure why Bush invaded Iraq in the pretext of destroying WMD which he never found. There was trouble between Shia and Sunni sect. He exploited that and got the moral support of the opposition camp who were persecuted by Saddam.
Do you think India needed such a long time to get independence from the British? If there was unity amongst the Indians, it should not have been a big thing for Indians to boot out the British in a fraction of the time they took to get them out.
Any way thanks for the time you took to reply patiently to my query. May Allah bless you. [I believe Ishwar and Allah are the names of the same person just the way Krishna and Christ are also the names of the same person. But when it comes to Shenoy, forget it. There are too many on this forum:)] |
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| Dr Raj Hegde, Australia |
Jul 11, 2009 |
*Oscar has done to the district but only know he got elected four times*
Bangarappa
DeveGowda
Lallu
Mayavathi
Most of the corrupt, non performers have won the election more than four times in the past.
Oscar’s contribution to our districts is a research topic. If anyone finds something relevant he should get his Ph. D. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
"The only way to solve the problem is by the State and Central Governments permitting good, factory made liquor available" -- Nelson Lewis
Next, we might ponder that the only way to take spurious drugs off the market is for Goverment to sell them cheaply? Creating another problem to solve one problem is hardly any solution at all! |
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| Kiran, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
"With regard to Oscar, he works silently for betterment of labour class people"-Kiran
Any clues, where Oscar is working and in what way he plans to do "something" for labour? -- Gopinath K, India
I did not say that and I do not know of anything Oscar Fernandes did for the betterment of our region or Assam. My neighbors are from Assam and they do not even know him. AFAIK, Silently? yes, Betterment? silence.
PS: I think Alfred commented that, so you can ask him for details. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
'moochen ho toh nathram jaisa ho warna naa ho'
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It should be 'Moochhen ho tho Natthulaal Jaisin Ho!' |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Dear Mr. Kumar,
Since you are not able to palm off your Commie views to certain writers who stand up to you and expose your blinkered outlook and regimented mind, you have changed tactics. I do understand and sympathise with you.
I am glad to see that you have ample time to keep a record of what writers write and then fire the gun by pretending to defend others. You are quite a courageous man and your chivalry knows no bounds. You are putting your idle time into best use and this is very commendable.
Sadly, idle mind is devil's workshop.
I enjoyed your comments and had a mighty laugh and snigger.
Since you are not able to conduct frontal battles, your feign attacks are noteworthy.
Good night Mr. Kumar. Sorry it must be dawn in India.
Nelson |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
but only know he got elected four times. -Alfred Rebello
The first time he beat Mr T A Pai, the union Industries minister who had crossed over to the Congress R party. Did Mr Pai deserve this? I doubt it.Just shows how incompetent our voters can get. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Did you mean Siddu has some connections -A Padebettu
No. Just wondering why he was playing the violin when the city was burning with violence. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Did you find any thing similar, with other Fernandes too?
-A Padebettu
Few years ago you could have said Mehmood and Junior Mehmood.
PS: Charminar Ghoda yeh toh mera chanda ghoda! |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Now when I open the bonnet of my car, more than half the parts are like spacecraft to me. -Govind
Do you own a French car by any chance? I did. I had a Citroen. It was full of parts. Most of the parts not stocked at the dealer. Even when you could not get them, the car would work till I had to sell it by auction. Good bye Citroen.![Not good buy!] |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Eating too much sweets, consuming too much oil and ghee, red meat, fried food, junk food, tinned food like chips, etc., etc. can be harmful and disastrous-Nelson Lewis
There was this man who ate litte
He shunned oil and he refused meat
He stopped rice, didn't touch wheat
One day he died of malnutrition.....
But with arteries intact:) |
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| Rasheed.K, UAE |
Jul 11, 2009 |
"Such as? For example?" - Shenoy
Sir,
I was referring to western, christian countries and how they exploited Muslim world.
Take the example of afghanistan. When Russians invaded, christian countries cried for help. Our brohers in Afghanistan and all other muslim countries formed a powerful army to defeat soviet. Now, America and Europe are trying to destroy Islam by using 'trrrorism' as an excuse. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
However, prohibition is far better than having free access to liquor like in Kerala, where the consequences suffered by the whole society is terribly tragic. A. S Mathew
A S Mathew,
Have you read what happened in America when they imposed prohibition (I guess during 1950s), bootlegging flourished. Every house in remote corner of America was converted into liquor producing factory(den). These things will not work in a democratic society. If people can not run their lives on sound morals, let them drink to their death. To some extent, Americans have reached the conclusion of what works and what does not work by having the benefit of hindsight.
You mention the name of Gary in Indiana and see the reaction of ordinary Americans. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Indian police force is ruthless, shameless, lawless, bloodless, and useless - Austin Prabhu,
Hi Austin,
I am happy that you did not add one more thing to your long list of lesses (sorry for this construct) and that is stomachless( potbelly). Whatever else be less but definitely not the size of stomach (read in lighter vein)
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 11, 2009 |
If one eats too much food it is bad and if one starves, then too it is bad.
One should eat quality food, comprising of fruits, salads, vegetables and white meat, like chicken and fish. Eating too much sweets, consuming too much oil and ghee, red meat, fried food, junk food, tinned food like chips, etc., etc. can be harmful and disastrous. It is better to eat wheat, jowar and bajra, then eating rice day-in, day-out.
I would challenge anyone that one can impose prohibition with success. Please tell me how it can be done? One can never stop a person who is prone to drinking, however, strict may be the Government and honest and duty bound the police.
And this is totally not possible in India, because the Police are totally corrupt and rotten and so also their political masters. Do you mean to say that hooch is sold in Gujarat and other States of the Indian Union without the police collecting their "haftas" from all addas. They collect haftas, keep some of them for distribution amongst the personnel under the police station concerned and the rest goes up the ladder, where every top official gets their envelopes and, who knows, from what I have heard, money also goes into the Chief Ministers' funds.
The only way to solve the problem is by the State and Central Governments permitting good, factory made liquor available for consumption at cheap rates, i.e. without any taxes, octroi, etc. Then, you will not have hooch being sold in the State. When good liquor is available at cheap rates, why should one consume hooch?
That is why though Goa is probably the wettest State in the country, with no opporunity or market for hooch or country made or moonshine stuff. This is because a bottle of Feni is available for as little as Rs. 30 to 40. Moreover, you do not see any drunkards in Goa, because they know that they can tipple whenever they want.
If any readers is not in agreement with me, then please enlighten me a better way out to surmount this probably, without police and politicians getting ill-gotten money through haftas.
Police and politicians like laws and prohibitions, because that is the way they make their money. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
I guess our Bollywood Directors can make a movie on his life. Abhishek Bachchan for young George and Amitabh Bachchan for the elderly George. 100 Days in Central Talkies.- Nagendra in his extrordinary probing Style.
Nagendra bhai,
Did you find any thing similar, with other Fernandes too?
(;-D) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Oh, it's Austin's bike as I was a speedy driver!-Austin maam remembering his salad days!
You can do that on Yezdi or Bullet.What about ordinary scooters who overtook several buses and lorries and still reached the destination safe? The rider even boasted 'isse kehte hein driving. Kyon?' How do I know this? Ek zamana tha jab hum bhi jawaan thay! |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Has Mr Shenoy ever disowned Nathuram?-P Pinto
No. In fact I like the dialogue about Nathuram in Sharabi where Amitabh says' moochen ho toh nathram jaisa ho warna naa ho'. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Has Mr Shenoy ever disowned Nathuram? -P. Pinto.
I think Mr. Shenoy never disowned Mohandas Karamchand. |
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| Ray, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
| English newspapers in India are denouncing religious leaders for opposing homosexuality. Western countries which legalized homosexual behavior have seen the rampant spread of AIDS yet the self righteous editors of Indian newspapers want proof homosexuality is against nature. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
The loyalty has paid a rich dividend for their personal political ambitions.-Dr. Raj Hegde.
You have hit a 'Bull's Eye' Dr. Raj. Some people are still counting their contribution in this forum. Oscar is counting for labours from Gujarat to Assam and Kashmir to Kanyakumari. (;-D)
Did you find one labour who is happy with Oscar's contribution till Assam? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Fr Mullers needs a management overhaul the clergy need to allow lay managers with MBA to take over the reigns.-Puttur Dinesh
Sisters of charity are the back bone of that institution. They run that place pretty well. When it comes to medical college, it may be a different ball game. In any case, I am proud to say it is one of the best things that has happened to Mangalore. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
What is Siddaramiah doing? -Shenoy Maam.
Did you mean Siddu has some connections to the recent violences in Mysore. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Seems he is a very jovial person-Nagendra Shenoy
He is very polite and gentle. I had the honour to take him to a party hosted by the Indian high commissioner. He did not mind coming in my Suzuki Swift those days without AC. Sachin Tendulkar again is a very polite person. He readily agreed for a photo with me and my family members. Those are in my personal collection and I would not share them here or in any public forum. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
This itself tells that he must have done something good to the district.-AJR.
No dear, if one gets elected, it doesn't mean that they are serving the people, who have elected them.
What service Phoolan Devi rendered to her constituency when she got elected? I do not mean Oscar is as bad as Phoolan Devi.
What service Kumaranna or his father 'Minnina Maga' have rendered to Rural Bangalore after winning elections on many occassions?
However, as Nelson rightly pointed out, you are comparing Chalk with Cheese when you are comparing Oscar with George. That's the point which is my opinion too. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Dear Mr. Alfred J. Rebello,
Just like the way, one cannot compare a lesser mortal with luminaries and people of international stature like Abraham Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi, Sir Winston Churchill, Bonaparte Napoleon, Erwin Rommel, etc., similarly do not commit the mistake of comparing Oscar Fernandes with George Fernandes.
Though I am not an admirer of George Fernandes, this man has a stature of his own. At one time, he was a union leader of such stature that he could bring the country to a grind. However, I wonder if this man amassed wealth like other union leaders, but did a lot by negotiating a lot with employers for the employees who were members of his union.
Yes, George Fernandes is not absolutely perfect and quite head strong, but he is a man of immense stature and he has his own voice and integrity. George Fernandes speaks his mind without fear or favour and is not sycophant.
A few years ago, one of my friends went to see George Fernandes at his house in Mangalore and was shocked and surprised to see him washing his own clothes in a bucket. Then a friend of mine used to speak about George Fernandes, who used to visit his relations houses in Bihar. He had a lot of good things to say about this man.
Whatever Oscar Fernandes has achieved in his political career is due to being loyal and obedient servant and not due to his brilliance, ability to stand on his own feet, face challenges.
Mr. Rebello, have a good day.
Yours faithfully,
Nelson Lewis |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Disowning the bad boy is too obvious Mathew. Come on. Be sportive. Even Praveen Pinto will agree with you.-Shenoy
Agreed. Has Mr Shenoy ever disowned Nathuram? |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
| Thank you, Shenoy maam. |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
"I was under the impression that you belong to the same fanatic group..." - Nitsua, Quatar.
Dear Austin,
I walked away from the Jurrassic park of self-hating pseudo-seculars long time ago. As I keep saying, it's not a crime to be proud of your country, nationality, culture and heritage. It's not a crime to call out those who put their religion ahead of anything else. There is nothing radical or fanatic about it, my friend. Smiles... |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Hey Bonnie,
Nobody can force us to live one way or the other (well, except in some radical societies like N.Korea or Saudi Arabia).
As Nelson Lewis wrote - it's all about practicing/promoting good things in your life and society.
I don't care if they start selling pot in the retail stores in addition to liquor. But, please...let's not glorify it. I would rather try to promote better, cleaner roads than more wine bottles in the local grocerry store. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Hi Pai,
My intention was not to hurl any invectives at you personally. Perhaps, I did not make my point lucidly as well as I set out to. My basic argument was, how could you control peoples lives in a democracy, when individual liberty and freedom are at its core. One can not regulate peoples behavior with imposed rules from above in the name of whatever religion. I too have the same issues which you write:what can anyone do. The alternative would be a theocratic state which strangulates the freedom and puts my religion over your religion(or may be Hitler like dictator at worse). There are people who are fighting for the very same issues, but their voices have been stifled by liberals and the mainstream media.
One would only hope that better sense would prevail. As always, one would think that, if someone does not not realize and make a mistake, they will at least realize by their mistake. Sadly , that does not seem to be happening either. When someone wants to have it their way all the way, what can anyone do.
My apologies if you are hurt anyway by my writings. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Tell me about one notable contribution from Oscar Fernandes for our undivided district after being held on to high posts? - Ananda Padebettu.
Ananda, I was not there to see what Oscar has done to the district but only know he got elected four times. This itself tells that he must have done something good to the district. I am of the opinion, your thinking is only limited to the district.
What I know about Oscar now is, he is working for the betterment of labour class people all over India. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai, , UAE |
Jul 11, 2009 |
So wine or beer drinking is not COOOL!
- Roshan Pais, US of A.
Roshan, Rajdeep perhaps meant while drinking only. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai, , UAE |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Such as? For example? Shenoy to Rasheed.
Shenoy, this is a good one. |
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| Nitsua, Qatar |
Jul 11, 2009 |
I live in a western society. My wife is an American. She is a practicing Christian while I am an atheist by popular imagination.
R.Pai, I have not got the impression that you are an atheist in any of your posts so far. I was under the impression that you belong to the same fanatic groug that KR belongs to. I am glad that I didn't meet that silent fanatic I had thought of meeting in Madhavan's Village. Lucky me. |
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| Sudhakara Kotian, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Muslims are very peace loving, kind, god fearing people. We have given so much to world. My eyes are filled with tears looking at how our brothers are treated in modern society.
Rasheed, what have you given to the world. Good or Bad??? Sochlo!! |
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| Dr Raj Hegde, Australia |
Jul 11, 2009 |
| Oscar Fernandez/Verappa Moily/Janardhan Poojary are just loyal congress workers. Other than their loyalty to Gandhi family they didn’t contribute anything to our society. (Moily as a Law minister must have really worked hard in legalising the Gay marriage). The loyalty has paid a rich dividend for their personal political ambitions. |
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| Dr Raj Hegde, Australia |
Jul 11, 2009 |
| Shenere Irana bashe Odudu Bhari Kushi aand. Ora kudlag batthi lekka aand. |
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| Nitsua, Qatar |
Jul 11, 2009 |
The latter had rejected to admit Karna as his student.-Nagendra Shenoy
Nagendra, do you have any evidence to what you have said above? Have you heard the words called logic & reasoning before? Do you want to know what they actually mean? And mind you there is no logic called as personal logic as Shenoy Maam had said earlier. Logic is absolute and universal. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
I understand your quest Rajdeep in saying wine is cool based on your new experiences there.
-R Pais
Naya ladka hai. Dheere dheere seek jayega. Bud Wiser perhaps? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
He was found just sleeping all the time-A Padebettu
No Diprivan was used we are reliably told. It was a heavy dose of Ragi Mudde with nugge sambaar. No question of anemia. Only enemy ya:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Take him out of Congress, what is his identity?
-Anand P
Humn! Let's see. Paunch for one and that Binaca smile of Sujeet Kumar for the other.? Seriously though, Oscar maam is a good guy. He is very simple. He is actually not a big leader. He is a grass roots type of politician. But he reached where he did just by his surname. Take that out and see where it leaves him....?
I am yet to see any development in our district/s for which we can give him any credit. This is where he along with Mr Gulle Nari who migrated to contest elections and won can come together and chart out some progressive plans. We don't need Panambur to Ullal sea link. How about improving the infrastructure in Mangalore? How about finding a solution for the water woers in DK? How about trying to get some electricity for DK?
PS:Pakistan has excess electricity. They can sell it to us as Zardari is smiling at Man Mohan these days. No. He looks like a business man and the smile is business like. 'Mujhe Man Mohan Singhji se business ki baat karni hai'. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Did I write anything against India -Bonnie
No. I think you love India as much as I do. I am not an aethist by strict definition but I don't think I believe in the system of religion which has allowed demolition of people's lives and livelihood all over the world. If all the religions are frozen for 25 years, [One generation], then much peace can ensue.
Coming back to the question of identities, I believe majority of the NRI population have a strong Indian identity. A small minority tend to fool themselves that they are 'Gora' or 'Burra' and live in their dream land.
I take this opportunity to commend Mr R Pai who has been open in his post. Salute to you my young friend. May the force be with you.{Star Wars] |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
So, just as how the french offset smoking by drinking wine, -Rajdeep Shetty
Dear Mr Shetty, Red wine, 3 ounces at bed time will give you anti oxidants is good for your heart. Go to 5, you will have liver problem. But negating the effects of smoking? Are you kidding? Whom are you trying to mislead? Smoking is bad for health as proved in every study to date. Ask our veteran Dr B M Hegde. He can talk non stop on the subject till the cows come home.
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Why is this special consideration? Is this legal.. and constitutionally correct? - Mr. Chengappa.
Absolutely incorrect brother. There are big shots like 'you know their names well' in minorities as much as there are Kalavathis and Mainavathis in the majority. However people blinded by that Holy surname will have nothing to complain. Like I quoted the words of a great man sometime back "We fight within ourselves to be called a backward"
Rather than going by the religion, we must go by economic status for these kind of reservations. Concessions must be provided for basic education not on the basis of various religion but based on ones income level. Same can hold good for jobs and other benefits. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
I was just reading about George Fernandes in Wiki.
Born in Mangalore, sent to Bangalore for getting a trained as a priest, rebelled against the Seminary authorities, left to Mumbai, became the Union leader, ended the political career of a 2 decade old MP in his very first election, drove away Coca-Cola and IBM from India, revolted during the National Emergency, headed various Ministries, broke away from Janata Dal and formed his own party, then merged it with JD(U).
As for his personal life, a Christian by faith, married a Muslim and supported a party whose ideology is Hindutva. A South Indian who even won from Muzaffarpur of Bihar.
I guess our Bollywood Directors can make a movie on his life. Abhishek Bachchan for young George and Amitabh Bachchan for the elderly George. 100 Days in Central Talkies. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Now, Can you tell me whether George is still with his party? - AJR.
Dear AJR,
Why are you after George Fernandes. He is above all parties. It is his personal stature that has given him the identity. However, does Oscar have similar kind of fan following? Take him out of Congress, what is his identity?
Please do not underestimate GF's contribution, which is clearly evident in front of us. I reiterate none can be given credits for KR but Madhu Dandavate and George Fernandes among politicians.
Tell me about one notable contribution from Oscar Fernandes for our undivided district after being held on to high posts? |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Dear Mr. Pai,
At times, we have disagreed with our views, but I agree with the views you have expressed with this post.
We should never, never allow religion to dominate our lives. Religion should be followed for personal guidance, discipline, etc., but that should not affect us in silly matters and hamper our advancement in life.
I personally feel that there is no system in the world that is totally ideal. However, we have to take the best from all cultures and adopt it in our life style. As simple as that.
There are good and bad things in all cultures and we have to live with it, if we cannot change it for better.
I personally look forward to such excellent posts Mr. Pai. Keep up the good work.
Regards,
Nelson Lewis |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Alfie,
"just do not pass any comments and expose your ignorance" is a routine comment. Just look at the other comments.
I am not a religious bigot, nor am I a religious fanatic,...ARE YOU A MUSLIM OR HINDU? -28 June.
I wonder if any readers are able to make head or tail of your statements? -22 June driven out Laxman, Goa from EYT.
I am not only after Narendra Modi, but also other villians like Jagish Tytler, H.K.L. Bhagat, the people who got illegal money from Bofors gun deal and many other- SCOUNDRELS and CRIMINALS."- to Kiran on 2nd May.
Narendra Modi..no different from..othe LUNATICS.- 30th April.
"Characters like Sitaram Yechury, Prakash Karak, Brinda Karat, Raja and others, who SQUEAL like PIGS in India"- 3-4-09
"This guy, Varun Gandhi, is DUMB and a far cry ....a STUPID person "-17 March
Can it be from someone's glossary of the High CLASS School? It speaks of the school and not the person. Don't take it seriously. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
"Now don't ask me to elucidate my final statement, DP can do it better ..."-Merwin Machado,
Less said the better on the coffee estate:-)) |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
BR Natarajan,
VaNakkum. If Lawyers are not advertising, do you think Chartered Accountants, Doctors, Engineers and Barbers (decent name is beauti parlours) are all advertising?
Service tax is for income generated out of Service. There too, the tax is applicable and payable by the person who avails the service and pays for it.
Lawyers are not paying from their pockets! Their only fear is that the details of their receipts and income will go to some govt departments.
Many people who pay fees in excess of Rs.20000/- per anum do not deduct TDS and report to IT Dept the details of payments made to advocates.
P. Chidambaram had allowed several loopholes to save people in his fraternity and himself! |
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| Gopinath K, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
"With regard to Oscar, he works silently for betterment of labour class people"-Kiran
Any clues, where Oscar is working and in what way he plans to do "something" for labour? |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
This is our Yeddi, Corrupt Sadananda Gowda and Telugu Bellary Reddy's Supreme Karnataka!-Hanume Gowda.
Gowdre,
Why just Congress or BJP?
You have forgotten two big names. Kumaranna and H D Deve Gowda. They are not just corrupt but very incompetent. What Deve Gowda did for Karnataka when he was PM?
He had power. He was found just sleeping all the time. Had he been really interested in growth of the state, he could have done wonders. |
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| Gopinath K, India |
Jul 11, 2009 |
"Have you ever heard of child marriage, so much for your family values. It had to be abrogated by a westerner( Lord Bentick); "-very pertinent point there by Bonnie to Pai.
Now Bonnie, you have also to explain who is a child and what did that Lord Bentick do? Why today the age of 18 for girls and 21 for boys is fixed as minimum age for marriage?
What will the government do, if there is a marriage at lesser age? |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Hi Bonnie,
Let me ask you a simple question – Did you really read my previous post? If you did, you wouldn’t have gone on with your emotional diarrhea for so long accusing me of things that I didn’t really write.
Let me give you a little background (This would probably the first and last time I will ever talk about my personal life) - I live in a western society. My wife is an American. She is a practicing Christian while I am an atheist by popular imagination. I hardly go to any houses of worship and hardly follow any religious stuff. But I have great respect and admiration towards best things in the world. It could be family values or personal hygiene.
As I keep saying, there are good things and bad things in every society/culture. I have a great admiration for western society for its contribution in areas of technology, personal liberty, and equal rights and so on. At the same time, I am also aware of flaws in this part of the world. Please look at things in totality and ask yourself - who is better? Which system works best? There is no single answer – it changes from one area to another. Be intellectually honest in the process. Don’t let your religion or political affiliation influence your decision. Use your mind – don’t get into unpleasant emotional diarrhea!
You talk about child marriage and the treatment of widows. True – both happened in the past. Nobody is proud of it. Does it disqualify the stable family system that we have in our country? If dating is so superior, how come 50% of the marriages fail here? Again, you have to look at the totality of the situation. Let me give another example - I agree that western democracy is far more superior to what we practice in east. At the same time, I am not going to disqualify the western democracy by bringing up the issue of millions of slaves / black people who had no rights under the same system in the past. I look at the bigger picture.
For every Deepa Patel you bring up, I can name one Anna Nicole Smith. Both are flawed arguments and abort any honest attempt to debate a much serious issue.
This is not about proving you wrong or right. This is about acknowledging the best. There is no need to get defensive on any of these issues – Honest debates are always welcome. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 11, 2009 |
Kiran, I agree with your comments. It will take its own course. But we have to keep reminding it for two reasons, one, peoples memory is short and two, there are new comers.
Sometime ago, Nagendram had pointed out, we read too much of secularism, equality etc. But for me, we may be knowing by-heart just like a teacher, who repeats the same thing every year only the students are different. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 11, 2009 |
What is your identity? Is it Indian or is it American? -Shenoy
Shenoy,
What has my identity got to do with what I wrote. Did I write anything against India - I am sorry if that is the impression you got. I was making the point that repeating the same thing umpteen number of times is pointless. I did not pit India versus America. The point was, there is enough good and bad in every culture, it is up to you to choose. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Now, the U.S. politicians and military
brass are realizing the need of having a close relationship with India, both
economically and politically. - A.S. Mathew
Americans have been mellowed down by the on-going economic turmoil to a great extent. Stellar calls are being made by China and other countries to replace dollar as the reserve currency. I remember a story which I read sometime ago, where two Americans came across an European. The european wanted to ask the direction to a particular place and asked the question in three languages (french, german and italina) and the two Americans did not understand what he was saying (asking). After seeing the plight of the european, one of the American said to his fellow-american that it would be advantageous if they learned one more language at the least. The other American gave a quick riposte saying - what is the use, the european knew three languages and it still did not help him. That was then, this is now, where American's may have to learn some outside languages, including few Indian as well.
Leave aside Americans, even American NRI s have started taking notice of India. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 10, 2009 |
So if you do not know anything, just do not pass any comments and expose your ignorance. - Nelson Lewis.
Nelson, first of all you have no right to say above words to others. It only shows your charactor, indirectly abusing others. For me, you are more ignorant than me because you have no idea what Oscar is doing whether it is the mercy of high command or not. Now, Do not come to the cunclusion that if George was not there we wouldn't have got the Konkan railways. George was not the alone who fought for it. I am not talking about the past because for me present is more important than past and for you past. Now, Can you tell me whether George is still with his party? If not, why? Now, do not try to blow the trumpet very hard because if you do, sometimes air will go out from other side. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
....TULU bashe oreyodu......jai TULUNADU. -Sachin
Sachinere, ireg nanala Tulu bhasheda mitt mast abhimana undu. Yenk bhari khushi aand. Aandala Tulu bhashegu onji sthana maana tikkode. Avvu pancha dravida bhashedu onji. Tulu Naduda yeligegoskara onji 50 Euro kadabudle thooka. Avvu thood baaki Tulu Bhandeveru spoorthidu onthe kaas koruveru. Gulfudu mast Tuluveru ulleru. 10 Dirham korundala yaavu. Mast kalekshan aapundu. Namma south canarada MLA MP nakulu, Chikkaballapurada Moily nakulu maata serdu Tulu bhasheda vishaya Tulutte charche maltudu onji niryana maltunda, Mana Mohana Singheregu onji arji koralli. Aar onte chappe. Malati Hollerda kenda gottavu. Nikle maata Tulu Barpundu pandudu yaan yenche nambuni pandad kendyeraanda yenchina malpuni? Nama Tulu bhandeveru Bombayidu Tulu paateruni kendara? Bassu pavne paanchugu popundu pandad panper. Inche maata ippunaaga, Tulu bhasheda yelgegu eronji yaanonji Australiada Hegderonji serudu ottaya malpuga. Avande Anna? Preeti uppad. Daiva yedde malpodu ireg. Barpe. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Fountain Pen
Ball Pen
Pig Penn-Puttur Dinesh
Dinesh maam was quarantined in Timbactoo for 3 weeks as they suspected H1N1 virus in him. We had to reassure the authorities that Dinesh maam only had a computer virus in his 486 computer.He is back in Alaska now.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
This belief espoused the divinity of nordic gods-A S Mathew
Was he using the Nordic track or the Nordic rider? Divine experience you see.
Disowning the bad boy is too obvious Mathew. Come on. Be sportive.Even Praveen Pinto will agree with you. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
"When I began to follow Christ, I began to enjoy an unspeakable peace and joy, which I never could enjoy". -A S Mathew
Same thing here. Whenever I think of Lord Krishna, I feel so happy. Only thing is that I may decide to speak. Silence is not golden as per latest rules of the game.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
What kind of justice is this. How can peace prevail with such injustice. -Suresh Anthony
How is it in States Suresh? Is every one getting justice there? Or is it that some are more equal than others? What is your experience in states? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
They remember muslim world only when they want us to do some dirty work for them.
-Rasheed UAE
Such as? For example? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
You can prove me wrong, if I have falsely cited anything. -Bonnie
No. Definitely not. However, can I ask you some questions Bonnie? What is your identity? Is it Indian or is it American? Which country will still welcome you in case you are not wanted any more by your employer in the USA? Regardless of the faith you pursue, your identity is still Indian. It does not change.You can change your accent, eat broccoli, drink chardonnay, *art/*hit in western style or even have a pseudonym like PD. But you will still be called an Indian fortunately or unforunately. Think about it. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
The latter had rejected to admit Karna as his student.-Nagendra Shenoy
Drona had not trained Karna. Nor did he train Ekalavya. Ekalavya just listened and practiced. Drona asked him to give his right index finger as gurudakshine and the poor lad obliged.
Inge rumba racism ella irkappa.:)
Karna was considered 'Radheya' and not Kaunteya. He was referred to as Soota Putra and not kshtriya. He was cut off the same mould as Arjuna and he was one Kaurava who really could not be defeated with normal rules. [Only Duckworth Lewis system could assure Arjuna's victory which was assured by presence of the Lord himself on his side. Lord Krishna had used Arjuna as the insstrument]
Dronacharya was a great teacher living in poverty. Ashwattama once was crying for milk as a baby. His mother had to mix water and dilute the maida powder and let him drink it as milk. Ashwattama stopped crying and started drinking that milk. [Bolu]Dronacharya was teaching only selcted candidates and not every one.By current standards, it will be considered racism at the international level and casteism in India.[ In these days of 'Kashtiism' I am still surprised about the casteism being practiced.:) |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Mr. Alfred J. Rebello,
There is no comparison between George Fernandes and Oscar Fernandes. It is a comparison between cheese and chalk.
George Fernandes has a stature and conviction of his own. He is a bold man, who has sacrificed a lot in his life time, especially when he was an union leader. He deserves credit for the Konkan Railways. If not for him, it would have still been a pipe dream.
Oscar Fernandes is a totally incompetent politician, who has no voice of his own. If at all he has achieved anything, it is because he is the Congress High Command's loyal servant. That is it.
So if you do not know anything, just do not pass any comments and expose your ignorance. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Relax PD & you can do it even with your pen name ...Merwyn comes alive after long hibernation! Welcome back buddy! :)
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Fountain Pen
Ball Pen
Pig Penn
These are in vogue these days, Merwyn! Suggest the best! |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 10, 2009 |
family values, focus on stable marriages etc. - R. Pai
Hi Pai,
I am tired of reading what you write repeatedly (carping) on family values as if it is patented by Indians. Agreed, anything that is good, should be appreciated; however what makes me vomit is, you make as if Indians are the sole custodians of family values. Have you ever heard of child marriage, so much for your family values. It had to be abrogated by a westerner( Lord Bentick); now I know that you would not have taken that into consideration while writing this. Why not abandon democracy, as this also is a western culture and return to some theocratic or monarchic rule( strictly speaking democarcy is not even a western concept, it was the idea of Philosopher Pluto from Greece). Have you seen anywhere in India on the road sides where parents have so many kids and let them beg. I know that this is outside the scope of your narrow spectrum of Indian family values. Have you ever noticed anywhere in and around Mangalore/Udupi, where widowed women have to tonsure their head and were(are) not allowed to re-marry( which speaks volumes for your family values). Did you ever read the story of Deepa Patel, who died in 9/11 incident who was 34 yrs old (I am really sorry to drag her into this story), who before her marriage told a news agency that she and many like her were single because of high divorce rate among her Indian married friends.
The westerners do not follow the societal customs which are followed by Indians (easterners) in selecting their spouse, they go for dating as opposed to Indians where it forced down by parents and when the marriage turns sour, it is equally difficult to get out (be sure that I am not at all advocating divorce). I am tired of writers in this forum trying to score brownie points on competitive morality.
The western democracy (specifically US) has lasted for more than 250 years, and all may not be well with it, but it is the still desirable mode of governance as all the other alternatives have failed. I would wonder what India would be like in another 50 years from now.
You can prove me wrong, if I have falsely cited anything. Please, note that, this is not to present Indian culture in the bad light at all. I am just tired of this nonsensical competitive morality. |
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| Rasheed.K, UAE |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Dear brother Irshad,
I fully understand where you come from. Recently, I was attacked in this forum for saying how certain groups were behind most of the wars in the modern history.
Today every Muslim is branded as a 'terrorist' by the same group. They are very good in propaganda and they have money to spread their propaganda.
They remember muslim world only when they want us to do some dirty work for them.
I am really worried about our muslim brothers in Mysore and all over India. Muslims are very peace loving, kind, god fearing people. We have given so much to world. My eyes are filled with tears looking at how our brothers are treated in modern society. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
P D,
You have all rights to use a pen name or whichever name you feel like using. It is your choice, option and prerogative.
Many have excelled with their pen name or screen name like Kuvempu, Akshay Kumar (Rajiv Bhatia), Mallika Sherawat (Reema Lamba), Jackie Shroff (Jai Kishan Shroff), Dilip Kumar (Yousuf Khan), Manoj Kumar (Hari Goswami) et al.
Puttur Dinesh or Uppinangady Umesh or Sullia Suresh.... You will always be respected by us, there will be agreement or disagreement at times. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
he did not want his Guru Dronacharya to be disturbed who was sleeping on his lap - Myself on 08.07.09.
Regret the typo error. It is Parashurama and not Guru Drona. The latter had rejected to admit Karna as his student. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Jul 10, 2009 |
"Is this a role model of Narendra Modi eliminating poor in the name of eliminating poverty?"
"I am not giving full credit to George Fernandes alone. There are many who fought for it. With regard to Oscar, he works silently for betterment of labour class people"
".... ban Bajrang Dal. Will it happen? I doubt because many want to use them for their personal gains. And most of us know these people are jobless and they are ready to do anything for survival."
Still Frustrated ? Venting out frustrations ? Yeh hai India. We are all Indians first. Anything happening here will happen at its own pace - good or bad (based on one's perspective). Even athegondu kaala sosegondu kaala will not happen overnight. Congress has its time and non-Congress has its time. Delusion has its time and knowledge has its time. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Puttur Dinesh is my pen name.
-Puttur Dinesh
You mean key name? Hai ki nahin?
But Pakruddin Dawood sounds dangerous. Uska intezaar toh gyara mulk ki police kar rahi hai.:)
PS; Key maam, I mean Dinesh maam, did you pay tribuite to Michael Jackson? How was your vacation? Hope it is not being too nosey. [I have Asha Rai's permission to say so.:)] |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
With regard to Oscar, he works silently for betterment of labour class people from Konkan to Assam.-AJR
Forget Assam, how many labours in Konkan have seen 'better' after Oscar came into power? Is he initiating 'Silent' Revolution?
As far as Konkan Railway is considered GF and Madhu Dandavate are the 2 pioneers to initiate the project. You please do not give credit to any people who are wandering around Madameji. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Merwyn, are you targetting George Fernandes or Oscar Fernandes or me? ... With regard to Oscar, he works silently for betterment of labour class people from Konkan to Assam... Alfred
No I am not targeting you & this is a itsy bitsy teenie weenie post (unfortunately without the polka dots) to assure you. Your Fernandes to Fernandes post made me open my mouth about the selfless toils of our beloved political classes, some of which go un-noticed & others which we often get reminded everytime we drink tea from Assam.
Now don't ask me to elucidate my final statement, DP can do it better ... |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 10, 2009 |
One globe trotting George used to put his foot in his mouth, the other of whom you spoke put his foot in the track & now we have the Konkan Railway.
- Merwyn Machado, Australia.
Merwyn, are you targetting George Fernandes or Oscar Fernandes or me? I am bit confused. Yes, by Knonkan Railway, we must have benefitted but I am not giving full credit to George Fernandes alone. There are many who fought for it. With regard to Oscar, he works silently for betterment of labour class people from Konkan to Assam. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 10, 2009 |
| It is a big news in India that more than 100 people died in Gujarat drinking hooch. Is this a role model of Narendra Modi eliminating poor in the name of eliminating poverty? Gujarat Government must have allowed some big companies to come to Gujarat, but my question is, how many poor people benefitted from it? I tell you, Narandra Modi do not care for poor, be them from any religion. Even in Karnataka it had happened? Perhaps this is the role model of BJP Governments in the states they rule to eliminate poor. Karnataks Governments also stopped distilling ARRACK saying it will kill poor, and what happened later? Many died. Instead of banning Arrack, government should educate people who do not know how to enjoy it within their limits. For me a drinker will drink however difficult it is. I am not saying it will not happen in Congress ruled states, but they have the choice. Now, Karnatak Government allowing scotch type drinks, I have no idea how much exchequer benefits but surely some politicians does. But on whose cost? Poor people isn't it? They are paying more than what they use to for the same entertainment or opt for illegal liquor and that is worse for their families, isn't it? |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Konkan to Assam===????
Merwin Machado, Kya sher maara! R U leaking secrets from Oz? |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 10, 2009 |
Does it really matter if I am Peter D'Souza, Puttur Dinesh or Pakruddin Dawood... PD
No, it does not matter even if you are Mark Quadros, although your posts do not have the legal speak that Marku maam used to have everytime.
Relax PD & you can do it even with your pen name ... |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 9, 2009 |
he is No.1 fraud. -G Reddy
You mean to say he is no 1 in no 2 business? |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 9, 2009 |
The difference between George Fernandes and Oscar Fernandes is, what ever George made, known to all where as Oscar's only a few ... Alfred
Alpi maam
One globe trotting George used to put his foot in his mouth, the other of whom you spoke put his foot in the track & now we have the Konkan Railway.
From Konkan to Assam
Mera Bharat Mahaan
Be it a Mangalorean or a Udupi maam |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 9, 2009 |
Govts changes but people cant get rid of these corrupted officials...-Najm
The person is corrupt. Corrupt people are there in every party and everywhere. They would have gor their jobs by paying some bribe. So the habit continues.Show me one clean government official.Even if some one is clean, others won't let him work. He will be transferred soon. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jul 9, 2009 |
Sorry folks I have been away from EYT due to a short vacation.
I was catching up on some of the posts. I read a post by Shenoy and nagendra about me being Peter D'Souza.
Does it really matter if I am Peter D'Souza, Puttur Dinesh or Pakruddin Dawood. Grow up guys. Read the posts and try not to read the personal matters. Puttur Dinesh is my pen name.
Where is Asha Rai who talks about people being nosey. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 9, 2009 |
The silence of the lambs, and the silence of someone seeking peace.
- Bert Naik.
Bert, I was silent on your success. To which catagory I fall? Is it both? Perhaps. However, keep the good work moving. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 9, 2009 |
Bonnie,
In my earlier posts also I did not mention what I have come across about Bofors deal and how it was made out to be. Similar way, the issue of purchases during V.K. Menon's time or during the time of George Fernandes.
I will give you a small tip on such deals. You guess what these deals mean.
I the last week of April this year, there was a report by PTI titled " Rs.12 crore for N-deal lobbying ". It was given very small space in few newspapers.
It says "The Indian Government paid $2.41 million for lobbying with U.S. law makers since 2005 on issues mostly related to the civil nuclear deal between the two countries.
A payment of US dollar 1.8 million was made to a high-profile lobbying firm -BGR Holding, in the first quarter of 2009...
This is as per the disclosure reports filed by Barbour Griffith & Rogers (BGR)with the US house of Representatives and the US Senate.....
Bonnie, the world politics runs on such fundings...and you can guess...the other failed bidders expose the deals. Indian system is very weak in handling the deals! |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 9, 2009 |
Since, there is a discussion going on this forum about the legacy of Nehru, I thought that I would present a few lesser known facts about Nehru to wrap up the discussion.
The major scandals in Nehru's era were -
1. Chinese aggression - this has already been discussed to some length in this forum and I would not add any additional details here.
2.Stock market scam.
T T Krishnmachari was the finance minister in Nehru's cabinet and the industrilaist Mundra( he was a Marwari businessman and had three wives) persuaded LIC to invest money( buy stocks) in non-existent companies floated by him. Apparently, all these companies were located in Kanpur and unfortunately LIC or anyone else had no inclination to verify the facts( this is the same modus-operandi used by Gujaratis during Harshad Mehta's scam) LIC invested to the tune of 60 crore of rupees in these non-existent companies,a huge amount by today's standards. When this scam came to light, TT Krisnamachari was forced to resigned as finance minister and Mundra was tried and sentenced. The whole trial did not take very long time( Chagla was the judge and Mr L Lobo was the CBI director)
3. Arjun Singh's father was contesting the election from MP for re-election and he had called Nehru to campaign for him and Nehru did come for the campaign.After the campaign was over, someone came and told Nehru that Arjun Singh's father was involved in some corruption case and hearing this Nehru immediately went back to the campaign stage and told the audience not to vote for this man as he was involved in corruption case( he lost the election).One will appreciate these facts, when seen in the light non-existence dissemination of information and high illiteracy.
Whatever else one may say about Nehru, he had some sense of public service.
Do not think that I am writing panegyric in honor of Nehru. |
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| Bert Naik, Australia |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Thank you Amarnath for a very valid take on Silence - even though, your message gives a view that is almost contradictory to my own.
Two very different facets of silence: The silence of the lambs, and the silence of someone seeking peace.
Being a married man myself, I understand the value of peace (which generally equates to the absence of some unsolicited cantankerous cacophony) :)))
I could have said more on the matter, but in the interest of peace ....:)))
Om shanti |
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| Bert Naik, Australia |
Jul 8, 2009 |
I am truly impressed by what you have written about Ramnath's achievements, Vedika. Congratulations, Ramnath.
I can understand how proud you are to be his sister!
If I may suggest something...
Please write an article on him, take a couple of photos (if you don't already have them), and have it published on M.Com. I am sure the webmaster will be very happy to publish that under the Rising Starz.
Ramnath certainly deserves it. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Jai ho KMC-Sandeep
Will some one ban the usage of this expression 'Jai Ho'?
It is so irritating. Hearing that song once was bad enough. Do we have to endure it every now and then by indiscriminate usage? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
George Bush not Christian?
Adolf Hitler not Christian?
-Pradeep
Only two bouncers per over and I see that you have used two consecutive deliveries for that.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
An airhostess while walking in the isle was rubbing her body to me as well as other passengers sitting in similar seats. -Alfred Rebello
Thank God it was not American airlines. You would have screamed in pain.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
I tried to join police not because of making money but because of serving the country in a truthfull way-Alfred Rebello
There is no place for you there Alfred maam.All the honest fellows have already occupied those places. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
We don't expect great morals from these 'great' individuals. But at least pure entertainment is possible without corrupting public minds and morals. The young and vulnerable fall prey.
----------------------------------------Shenoy maam, I fully agree with you! |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Dear Hanumae Gowda,
Thanks for your inputs on 'Lokayukta'. I can fully understand why state govt is not interested in prosecuting these individuals! :)
I also agree with you on our impotent MPs and other leaders. Take the recent example of Kannur-Bangalore train. The mallu/tamilian/telugu lobby is beating up kannadigas very badly. You see it from railway to IT industry. If you have any doubts, please visit the campus of one of the top IT company in Mangalore. You will see how mallus and outsiders are dominating every area. You need a 'magnifying glass' to find kannadigas!!
I know, I know - We are not supposed to talk about these and take high road. But, it's time we speak up and fight for fair treatment of kannadigas within Karnataka. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 8, 2009 |
V.K. Krishna Menon was a bachellor! - DP
Hi DP,
I did not accuse him of being involved in corruption. The jeeps which were sourced from Britain did not measure up to the task during INDO-PAK war. They were not only old, there was suspicion that they were used during earlier wars by the British government. As I said earlier, I do not know the truth; just because I read something, I am not going to make statements. Also, there was information from the knowledheable quarters that he ignored the reports sent in by the then border-in-charge from the army, stating that Chinese were undertaking road construction in the disputed area. As I said earlier, I can not prove to you these reports and at the same time I am not here to sully the reputation of any person terming him as incompetent or corrupt.
However, what is a known fact is that most of the western educated people before or immediately after India gained independence turned out to be communists. The comrades from the West Bengal are an example of that. I can understand to some extent why they turned out to be communists when one considers the Zamindari system prevailing in the state of West Bengal during that time.I do know that these fiefs were treating their vassals very oppressively and definitely communists in West Bengal did a great good by repealing this system. But the problem is they did not move on with time.
Anyway .. time to move on .. |
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| Vedika, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
So, my request to all is to encourage young people like Ramnath to speak and express whatever they want to express. -Bert Naik blesses Ramnath.
As your wish Ramnath has been selected to be the student editor of the college magazine of St.Aloysius P.U. College and he is already elected class representative in II PUC. Last year he was the master of ceremony for PRE-UNIQUE, a state level fest and the P.U day of the college. He also stood first in the inter-collegiate debate competition held by the airport authority of India as a part of the vigilance awareness week.
I am proud to be his sister.
Thank you for your encouragement to him. |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Hi Anand,
You made some great points again. I agree - there is no comparison with weather.com! I was always impressed with US weather agencies and their ability to forecast the weather details almost a week in advance for any zipcode!!
For all the 'super power' talk we do, I am not sure if we have the focus or necessary skill set/ equipments to do a decent job! As I said - if Chief Minister doesn't get reports on monsoon, what can an average man expect? Sad. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
The theatre was ANAND in Thousands Lights, Mount Road
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Oh yes! It has a mini theatre as well called Little Anand, right Dony Baab?
Thanks for the clarification. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Jul 8, 2009 |
I always write what comes in my mind and not necessarily with facts. - Alfie
You said it pal, not me! Anyway, I suppose that it is a case of the FIM syndrome. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
I do not understand why these great personalities in this world make such silly mistakes and ruin their life. -Austin Prabhu
In addition, some other lives who copy their heroes is also ruined as a collateral damage. Public figures do have responsibility to maintain character. We don't expect great morals from these 'great' individuals. But at least pure entertainment is possible without corrupting public minds and morals. The young and vulnerable fall prey.
PS: Is it true that many of these musicians are mad geniuses who also have some abnormal thinking and life styles? We have heard of stories about people from entertainment indistry, especially their sexual exploits and perversions. Legalising such acts can only help people from avoiding law courts. That's all. No other effect. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Dear Mr. Bonnie & Mr. A.S. Mathew,
Mr. V.K. Krishna Menon, used to consume many cups of tea every day. I had personally seen him, from a distance of hardly two or three feet, during an electioneering campaign and, as a teenager, looked at him with immense disgust because this character and Jawaharlal Nehru were responsible for the state of neglect of the Indian armed forces and its defeat at the hands of the Chinese.
From what I gather, Menon was a very proud and arrogant person, who felt that he knew everything when, in fact, that may not have been the case. Many Indians and foreigners have not spoken well about this man and rightly so. Besides Jawaharlal Nehru, this man shares the major part of blame for the Chinese debacle in 1962. Menon, was totally anti-western and pro-communist.
Menon, had no respect for hierarchy and chain of command. As the Defence Minister of that time, if he wanted any information regarding military matters, he would not call the concerned Service Chief, but call a subordinate officer of say, the rank of Major, Lieutenant Colonel, etc. to get the information or know what is going on. Secondly, he was insulting when dealing with military personnel and was known to get angry and throw files and papers.
If China would not have attacked India in 1962 over the border dispute, then Menon would have been the Defence Minister for longer period and that would have been the end of Gen. Sam Maneckshaw. Gen. Maneckshaw would have got the sack or been cashiered and not been there long enough to become India’s first Field Marshal. Menon hated this General, because he was too westernised for his liking. Sadly, I wonder if Menon knew that most Parsis are westernised in their ways. Further, Nehru would have made his blue-eyed Kashmiri boy, Gen. B.M. Kaul, the next Chief of Army Staff those days.
I still wonder what did Menon speak for hours in the U.N. |
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| Anand , Bangalore, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Hi Mr Pai,
Yes Sir! Your Observation is absolutely right. Our Metrological department website is very primitive. Considering that our's is a subtropic geographical area which consistently faces very bad weather condition the data from IMD is very ordinary.
I just felt that I can list some of my observation of our metrological website.
1) The data provided [temperature, rain, humidity] is updated only once daily.
If you compare with USA website weather.com it is far more advanced. Every 1 hour the data is updated.
2) The satellite picture is of very poor quality. You can see white mass of clouds. But dosen't give any clue to its density. In weather.com the densities are shown as:
White Clouds : Overcast condition
Blackish Clods : Drizzle
Violet Clouds : Light rain
Orange Clouds : Heavy Rain along with thunder and lightning
Red Clouds: Very Heavy Rain along with thunder and lightning
I try to get information from weather.com satellite picture for mangalore and udupi.
3) Everydata rain data archive isn't available on IMD website.
4)On July 26 2005 when mumbai faced cloud burst on the afternoon and clocked 94 cms IMD was sleeping. Normally the monsoon clouds extend vertically upto 8 kms. At 12 Pm on that day the clouds over noth mumbai adjoining arabian sea extended up to 15 kms with heavy thunder shower activity. But the department did nothing. The Heavy Rains started at 1.30 pm and the department issued warning anly at 3.30 pm. By then almost 20 cms of rain had already fallen.
One additional info: We can download google Earth and stimulate the weather information on it. Live data would be visible at a differnce of 6 hours. One can continously see the cloud formation.
Lets hope our metrological department takes clue from wetaher.com and google earth and improves on those lines.
Opps! this is a long mail. Sorry to trouble you with so much weather data :) |
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| Vijay, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
"Muslims brothers communal violence is common in India and its a fact that muslims and hindus cannot coexist peacefully, so muslims should sacrifice their wealth for weapons, if not muslims brothers be ready for genocide and its not too far. History shall repeat itself and we shall rule our beloved motherland India again." From Mr Ayubi.
The above quoted statements are totally deplorable. It would be nice if people expressing their thoughts in this forum would show some restraint. Probably because their IP address isn't going to be tracked these chaps are stating volatile crap. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
HP,
I have read last year that some Ayurvedic practitioner is administering medicines with Tulasi as one of the ingredients. He is stationed somewhere near Kasaragod.
I agree with you that more research work has to take place in this line.
I remember having met a lady having undergone treatments at her 3rd stage of cancer (identified as malignant) in 2000. There was no hopes left for her or the family members. She had been to a naturopathic centre near Trichur.
Till 2003, I knew her daily diet mainly consisted of one full coconut crated. She may be continuing the same even now.
She is still attending to all household works and lives in Palghat as normal as others.
There may be different types of cancer and some products from nature may be cable to cure some classes. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Bonnie,
1. V.K. Krishna Menon was a bachellor!
2. There were two communist worlds those days. One pro-Soviet and the other pro-Chinese. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 8, 2009 |
"the Western countries heavily insisted on Pandit Nehru to replace V.K. Krishna Menon,"-A.S.Mathew
So you say that western countries did influence Nehru and Nehru obeyed them and removed Menon as per their wishes?
That also means, Nehru was working on advice of western countries. |
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| Amarnath Bantwal, Australia |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Silence is not golden. Silence causes depression. Silence makes people powerless- Bert.
Dear Bert, While I do agree with your take on Silence, isn't the potency of Silence quite a misconstrued one?
I think the Silence you are referring to (pardon me if I am wrong) is the Silence by subjugation, of servility not the Silence of Meditation, of tranquility.
Would I be wrong if I said Silence is a toastmaster's mastery at the lectern-An enraptured (silent) audience would say it all - without saying anything.
In its controlled form, Silence is a great power, a discipline, a victory over the chaos that surrounds us.
Finally, after all the cacophony during our life- isn't Silence the final truth?
Wouldn't some of us have wished MJ woke up from his silence during his memorial and blown the stage to smithereens earlier today?
I distinctly remember blogging on Silence in Mangalorean Voices many moons ago- I think I called it 'The Sound of Silence'. Hell No! Please don't bother to check that out. |
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| Bert Naik, Australia |
Jul 8, 2009 |
As much as Krishna Menon was a non-leader and did not command respect from the Armed Forces, his claimed incompetence owes something to the assertiveness of Nehru, and perhaps, perhaps, to the keenness of the Americans not to endorse anyone with communistic leanings.
Nehru has certainly contributed to the growth of India. But he strongly believed that India was more capable than what it actually was. As much as Nehru provided a commendable blue-print for India's future planning, he suffered from a few delusions about India's military capabilities.
India's border areas with China were not clearly demarcated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War). Even before Nehru had time to digest the reality of the border areas with China, somehow Nehru ended up making several assertive, indeed arrogant, statements on India's capabilities.
Poor Menon had to make good on those statements. Would have been a tough task for anyone given the technology-poor resources of the Indian armed forces at the time.
The Americans had run sorties over China in the late '40s, trying to give a helping hand to KaiShek's stand against the communists.
The Chinese have not forgotten that. American keenness to give a helping hand to India in 1962 could have been a continuation of the theme.
How happy the Americans would have been to see any Central ministers in India with communistic leanings? Did Krishna Menon become a convenient fall guy? |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 8, 2009 |
Enjoy wine/music with family and become bankrupt - RSAHEB, India,
RSAHEB, if you know how to enjoy it in a proper way, you will not become bankrupt. One becomes bankrupt only if he over do it. Even if you over eat you become bankrupt, I mean healthwise as well as moneywise. You may be living as per your belief for which nobody has objection and I as per mine for which also nobody should. Everything is made to enjoy provided one knows to enjoy it within his limits. Ofcourse I am not giving any credit to the current Government for making it to open because I am sure somebody benefits from it. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 8, 2009 |
"Back in '76, I went to Madras(Chennai)….. went to see "Enter The Dragon"
the Theatre(DEVI I presume. Dony baab...please help me!)……" Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India: [ RE: Chris Rego, UAE ]
Dear Shenoybaab, thanks,I feel honoured with your kind words. The theatre was ANAND in Thousands Lights, Mount Road (which was close to my office). |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Gandhi also kept his weight low, with a Body Mass Index of 17.7. - Guru,
Guru, because Gandhi kept his diet, he could walk upto Dandi (Am I right?) and made salt. Because of his diet we got even indepndance because he could think sharply.
Also, if you are in good health today, it is because of diet. And if you are alive today, it is because of agricultural products and not Cars, houses, industries, which only gave comforts and luxuries and of course money to buy agricultural products. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Anyway, forget about MJ yaar. By statements such as the one above (the latter part), you sure are keeping us entertained! - Chris Rego, UAE.
As long as you got entertained, why you worry, how he died? I always write what comes in my mind and not necessarily with facts. There are enough writers in this forum to write on facts. Do not break your head to analyse my imagination. In this world anything is possible specially when it is in the negative. Cheers. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
It will stimulate the mind and nothing below.:) - Shenoy.
Shenoy Maam,
What about Gandhi's popular self-confessed 'self-control' rituals? :-)) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
With deficite finance and 4 perecnt growth envisaged in agriculture, we can now think of going in for GANDHI DIET - Guru.
Let that be the last thing on earth to happen Guru. "It took a fortune to keep Gandhi poor" said Sarojini Naidu. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 7, 2009 |
I didn't realize there is so much of fear of alcohol in India - Rajdeep Shetty
There is no fear of alcohol India not even that of spurious alcohol, Otherwise, how can one justify the deaths caused by this country liquor( I read just yesterday that there were some deaths reported in Gujarat by consuming spurious alcohol)
I always say if you want a village to prosper then start a bank, if you want to bankrupt a village, then start a liquor shop
On a serious note though, it may be difficult to produce and sell fake wine.I think the wine drinkers are quite aware of brands they are consuming. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 7, 2009 |
This issue got worse under the leadership of Mr. V.K. Krishna Menon, who was known in the diplomatic circle as a man filled with bitterness and crude nature - A.S. Mathew.
Krishna Menon had communist bent of mind, so he must have thought that China would not attack India at any time( he was a communist party activist before going to UK). The events which unfolded later proved him wrong. I also read that when he was the Indian Ambassador to UK, there were corruption charges leveled against him for supplying outdated vehicles from UK to Indian army. I am not sure if these charges were true or not, but definitely the vehicles proved to be quite inadequate to the task at hand. Someone else in this forum can throw some light on that. |
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| Austin Prabhu, USA |
Jul 7, 2009 |
"Silence is not golden. Silence causes depression. Silence makes people powerless." - Bert Naik, Australia
You are 110% right Bert! For me silence is nothing but sign of "Death!" Let the birds sing, let the babies cry, let people voice out their thoughts just like the rays of sunshine! They may poke your skin with porky heat; they definitely help the buds to blossom, Amen. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
we can now think of going in for GANDHI DIET -Guru
Gandhi diet only helps people to think. It will stimulate the mind and nothing below.:) |
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| Mike, USA |
Jul 7, 2009 |
| What do the advocates of the morality of consenting adults have to say about Steve McNair's murder? |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
To me, it looks like they have sculpted one of those 'Ajjer's' that we used to burn for the New Year.
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Funny enough Chris, I felt alike, when I saw that, but reserved my thoughts.
There's a reason. Back in '76, I went to Madras(Chennai) and stayed with my friend for 5 days in his room. We made it a point to see one movie everyday, and we went to see "Enter The Dragon" that I had already seen twice, once at Regal in Bombay(Mumbai) and once at New Chitra(Mangalore).
I was fascinated to see posters, cards and mementos galore outside the Theatre(DEVI I presume. Dony baab...please help me!)and inspite of my friend curbing me, I bought a huge poster of Bruce Lee, brought it to my hometown, and pinned it up my bed room wall!
When a friend saw that poster...he exclaimed..."Tamil Bruce Lee man! Looks almost like MGR!"
I guess, I've said enough! |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Whatever I have achieved since that time in terms of communication and leadership is nothing much really
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This sentence itself speaks volumes about your modesty and ultimate refinement, Bert!
What more could one achieve in life than ultimate refinement?!! |
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| HP, France |
Jul 7, 2009 |
........another contribution from India
Medical professionals might show some enthusiasm here :
Can tulsi or holy basil be introduced in raw form such as leaves, branches and stems for oral consumption in certain types of cancer patients ?.
Tulsi or Holy Basil has many a medicinal properties and might be a boon to those with minimal income or even to those who would not mind trying this magical herb.
Can India or Indian origin medical professionals take the lead in developing more research on this matter ? |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Of them major chunk being in agriculture, allied activities and non-farm workers in the unorganised sector, they never knew what a budget is or what they are going to get from!
- Guru, India.
Guru (I hope not mine), this is the beauty of Budget to make known to unknown people what is it? Wait and see how it will affect common man in the coming days. With this budget Government is trying to organise un-organized sectors so every body knows what is the effect of budget. What you are talking about customs duty, excise duty, business community knows how to manipulate it. Do you think all the business people are sincere? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
You think we had great highways before BJP came to power??? - R Pai.
Pai Maam, many believe that the freeways in US were also constructed under various Rajiv Gandhi HagaraNa.... Oops Yojane. Let them live in dreamland. |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Anand,
Thanks for these details.
True - there must be someone keeping track of daily rain fall in every major city?
Even with the highest rain fall, we struggle to supply drinking water during summer months. With some decent planning, mangalore area should look green with plenty of water during harsh summer months.
Our utter failure to harvest/store rain and river water shows how smart(??) we are as a society.
PS: Offering "Seeyalabhisheka" in a local temple can not be part of our 'water management' strategy!! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Wine is different from other alcoholic drinks as it cannot be consumed in large quantities like beer or whisky for instance since it is drunk undiluted without water or soda. - Anand D'silva
Hey Anand, since when did people start adding water/soda to beer?
Perhaps you meant to give us a course on the alcohol content of such beverages – either by ABV (Alcohol By Volume) or ABW (Alcohol By Weight) and wound up watering down your beer!
Agreed, wine does have some beneficial effects by way of lowering bad cholesterol. However, if the Health Section of Readers Digest is to be believed, even beer does the trick. (If I’m not mistaken, ‘Irish Stout’ is the preferred brew which has max benefits.) On the other hand, if cardiologists are to be believed, a stiff belt - well, I don’t mean the whole 9 litres – just about 90 ml (or 30 over 60 as our man DP calls it) everyday serves the purpose too.
As they say, different strokes for different folks. Cheers mate and oh, don’t ask me to water-down my beer! |
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| Guru, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Alfred Rebello,
Your sweet words to Steven "For me, as long as majority is satisfied with the Budget, I consider it is good."
Now can u explain which majority and where majority. Why did BSE Sensex fell sharply in the noon? Why industrialists expressed dissatisfaction for not announcing reduction in corporate taxes, handing over public sector to them and no expected reduction in excise and customs duties?
In India the majority are poor and less educated. Of them major chunk being in agriculture, allied activities and non-farm workers in the unorganised sector, they never knew what a budget is or what they are going to get from!
Then who are the ones satisfied? Are they the same UPA majority? plus you from UAE:-)) |
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| Guru, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
N.S.Shenoy,
With deficite finance and 4 perecnt growth envisaged in agriculture, we can now think of going in for GANDHI DIET with
* 1 litre of goat's or cow's milk
* 170 g cereals
* 85 g leafy vegetables
* 140 g other vegetables
* 30 g raw vegetables
* 40 g ghee
* 60 g butter
* and 40 g jaggery or sugar
* fruits according to one's taste and purse
* 2 sour limes (juice taken with vegetables or in water, cold or hot)
* salt according to taste
Gandhi also kept his weight low, with a Body Mass Index of 17.7.
What say Shenoymam? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Jul 7, 2009 |
I am of the opinion, either he died with tension due to over debt or made him die by somebody who could not see his sufferings. However, he entertained the world whatever he could. - Alfie on MJ
Say, Alfred, what was that again? Ok, granted, I do comprehend the former part - the theory about MJ dying due to being in hock. However, the latter part of your statement has left me at wits end! I ran all possible combinations and permutations of the key words -"made", "him", "die" "by" "somebody", "see", "his", "sufferings"..... Well, my system just flashed a FATAL ERROR message and promptly hung up! I have been trying to coax it to life ever since!
So much for my Tuesday morning blues! Nonetheless, I'm still curious Alfie and would really appreciate if you could shed some light on the matter.
Anyway, forget about MJ yaar. By statements such as the one above (the latter part), you sure are keeping us entertained! |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Indeed it is a brilliant step, Yeddi style…..and if all the shops between Mangalore and Sakleshpur also start selling liquor, and with the Shiradi Ghat going in for a toss…….one can only imagine the mayhem that could be the result.
All in all Vettala Paak (Paan Bida shops) popularly known as Kaka shops will have roaring business of empty bottles …….. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 7, 2009 |
God knows whats going to happen in next 5 years. Congress rule has only seen deficit growing .. Steven, UAE.
You have the option either be in India or migrate any country you wish, if you think India is in danger in the hands of Congress. Perhaps you should chose those countries whose economies are stable and flourishing as well. For me, as long as majority is satisfied with the Budget, I consider it is good. Also note, No budget ever satisfied all, not only in India but all over the world. |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jul 7, 2009 |
Sudhakar Kotian,
Steven has clearly mentioned on the DEFICIT which probably you don't understand. That's why you react oddly.
Deficit at 6.8 percent means resulting in to higher inflation.
This budget also disappointing to industrialists as their pursuations to further privatise the public sector banks and insurance has not been looked in to.
Another basic weakness from the point of view of aaam admi is that there was no mention of higher allocation to primary and secondary education when the HRD minister talked long on right to education bill. The budget speaks of education LOANS for higher studies to 5 lakh students and interest subsidy. For a country of our size, what's the need? Atleast 6 percent of the budgetary allocation should have gone for education. Never did any governments initiated this and the allocations crossed 3 percent.
And we GROW uneducated and illiterates in huge numbers with crocodile tears!
That |
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| Sudhakar Kotian , India |
Jul 6, 2009 |
Congress has shown its true colours by fooling people.
Steven/UAE.. Do you have any suggestion for a good budget that too keeping the global recession in mind???? Please do not write negative comments just because you hate congress. If you have any valid arguments on this budget please write it clearly so that we ordinary lay people will understand why the budget is bad. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 6, 2009 |
| It also brings back the memories of two great Mangalorean family bands which were very popular in the sixties - WELTHA'S ORCHESTRA which used to grace most of the upmarket weddings in Mangalore and of course the unforgettable "MACHADO SISTERS" |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 6, 2009 |
Pardon me, Mr. Nagendra Shenoybaab, ……it should be “SISTER” not “BROTHER” - Dony Lobo.
Thank you for correcting me Dony Maam. A true marketing person always keeps his eyes and ears open. Right?
Sincere apologies Sister Mel. 'Mel' sounded MEL to me and was not knowing you are a feMEL. Sorry once again :-) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 6, 2009 |
My post was to you, -Merwyn
Thanks for the prompt response Merwyn. I [We] appreciate it. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 6, 2009 |
“Pete took 12 years to win his 14 grand slam titles (1990 - 2002)and Federer just 6 (2002 - 2009) - Mel.
Sampras has played Grand Slams in the 80s (1988 or 1989-2002) as well brother”…. Nagendra Shenoy, India
Pardon me, Mr. Nagendra Shenoybaab, ……it should be “SISTER” not “BROTHER”.
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Jul 6, 2009 |
Millions of hindus are earning billions of rupess in Gulf Muslim countries, its the biggest tragedy in Islamic history. Civil war is must and should to open the eyes of the muslim world. – Ayubi from India
Any problem with that, Ayubi?
The Hindus are as much human as you and I and have every right to earn their daily bread and beer (if they so prefer) wherever they want! Nick their dermis deep enough and they'd bleed - the same crimson as you and I! Kick their butts and they'd yelp just as loud as you and I would! They are no different than you or me, mate! In fact, there is no "they" just coz some klutzes started dishing out that brainwashing opiate called 'religion'! It all boils down to us as humans! All of us learnt that at home and if not at home, at least at school! And the quicker you get a whiff of that governing essence of life; you'd do yourself a huge favor if not this column!
Unfortunately, it is headless squawking chickens like you and those of your ilk that go around venting hatred and spewing venom.
I have half a mind to tell you about what I think is the "biggest tragedy in Islamic history". However, I'm averse to starting a free-for-all out here - not to mention wanting to maintain the decorum on this column! Hence, I'll refrain. |
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| Donald D' Silva, India |
Jul 6, 2009 |
Heartiest Congratulations!! Bert Naik, on being elected as the Divisional Governor of Toastmasters in Australia.
It's not a small achievement.
Wish you all the best Bert in whatever you do!! Best Wishes!! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 6, 2009 |
I keep seeing so many Shenoys on EYT that I am confused who is which Shenoy & why - Rajesh Shetty.
On a lighter note, don't ever step into Canara Bank or Corporation Bank! :D |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 6, 2009 |
Pete took 12 years to win his 14 grand slam titles (1990 - 2002)and Federer just 6 (2002 - 2009) - Mel.
Sampras has played Grand Slams in the 80s (1988 or 1989-2002) as well brother, which makes it more than 12 years. He might not have won though in 80s.
Federer has played in 1999 as well which makes it 10 (or 11) years.
I have taken the count from the very first Grand Slam appearance.
Federer can boast of completing a Career Grand Slam after his French Open triumph earlier this year, whereas Sampras could not manage a single French Open. Federer has got a Olympic Gold (doubles) as well last year at Beijing and Sampras doesn't have an Olympic medal.
I will always remember Sampras for his ACE, back hand return of a serve (with one hand that too) and his genuineness and simplicity. Ivanisevic for his powerful serves and his 2001 Wimbledon triumph (Played through a wildcard entry) |
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| Rajesh Shetty, New Zealand |
Jul 6, 2009 |
I wonder if I am the only one having such problems or if there are others.
I keep seeing so many Shenoys on EYT that I am confused who is which Shenoy & why.
There is a little black in the daal. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 6, 2009 |
Feel free to inform us Merwyn... Shenoy
My post was to you, but your reply perplexed me whether you are singular or plural ... |
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| Guru, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
British Airways in Red:
British Airways suffered a heavy Br. Pounds 375 million loss in the past year as high fuel costs and slumping demand hit home, it said yesterday, and saw no sign of immediate improvement amid the downturn. BA logged a loss after tax of BP375 million ($590 million) in the 12 months to March 2009 after net profit of B.P712 million a year earlier, it said in an earnings statement. |
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| Guru, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Airlines experience d.b. mathur wrote:
Little things kept happening which made the Kingfisher experience memorable. However, an unforgettable experience happened while we were in the plane between our 2 legs from Jaipur to Hyderabad, at Mumbai. After the disembarking of the Mumbai passengers, we were about 20 persons in the plane when we were suddenly attacked by the unforeseen forces of Security and Cleaners. I even had the toilet door forced open with my pants down, that too by a lady stewardess, in severe awe of the security. NOVA men would clean up even the personal effects on the seat & seat pocket into their large trash bag, never to be found again, if you are not on your seat. There was no mechanism of telling them which seats were occupied. They have a task to finish in 20 minutes & nothing should come in their way. Security was quite civilized, but to have a toilet door forced open is something only "Kingfisher experience" can offer. |
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| Dots Rego, Chicago, USA |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Congratulations Bert on being elected as the Divisional Governor of Metropolitan Division in Australia and the DTM award. Wish you all the best in your future endeavors.
Kudos to a great EYTian. Keep shining!! |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Currently (and perhaps from the time of Ramayan) saffron is associated with Hindu religious sentiments., and has gained a devine relevance
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Dony Baab,
Hats off to your well balanced post!
I had indicated a few months ago to Ibrahim Hussain Saheb or M Hussain(I don't have the time to go back and browse!) that saffron is an essential ingredient in making Biryani, giving it ultimate fragrance!
Then again, I had indicated the use of greens as well!
I hope, our Muslim friends don't deny the co-existence of Saffron and Green!
Even the Congress flag has these colours! |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
the next time you are in Goa visiting your favorite Bar Don't be confused by the name, call me. -Praveen Pinto
Do you own any of the gadangs there? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
ST. Anthony's Bar & Rest, Miraculous Jesus Wines or Shantadurga Bar & Rest.-Praveen Pinto
How about 'Soma Rasa' Bar and Restaurant? If there is any objection to that, it can be renamed as 'Choma Rasa' Bar and Restaurant. The religious ex minister might prefer the latter even though the former seems to be his pre occupation these days.:) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Nagendra Shenoy will now clarify when and who decorated V.D. Savarkar as Veer probably from the elementary book - Guru.
When was he decorated 'Veer', I am not sure. He had left for heavenly abode much more before my birth.
Who decorated him, I am not sure about that as well.
All I know is, it doesn't need a decree from any Dynastic heads or from a Monarch who would keep his good grand gracious sword on one's shoulder before giving various titles. It is not one of those civillian awards which will be bestowed on undeserving people or 'Son of Soil' or 'MaNNina Ma(n)ga' which is tagged by the blind followers of our politicians.
It can be given out of pure and true love and respect without any expectations. Mahatma, Master Master, Shahen Shah, Nightingale of India, Missile Man, Sangeet Samrat, Maryada Purushottam, Daana-Shoor, King of Clay, Baltimore Bullet etc are some of the titles various personalities have achieved, courtesy to their fans and followers.
As for his personal credentials, I don't have anything to speak for or against since my knowledge about him is restricted to the full form of his initials. So you can continue your discussion on him with those who know about him. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
But the way you ended the thought, proved that your brain was not working on those issues but was working on the strong foundation that I am a communist and I write and do things against India and in favour of china.-DP Kumar,
DP Uncle,
Thanks for your conviction. I have no doubt about the fact that as far as China is concerned your brain works in only one direction like ‘Ghoda’ tied to a ‘Gadi’. I wish to clear that the whole range of issues and notions presented by you is from the perspective of supporting a Communist nation that flexes muscles against India. And the fact is that as JF once termed, China is our ‘numero uno’ enemy.
Yes, I do agree that India and China shared very healthy relationships in the past. I repeat this was the era of pre-Communist China. Hue-En-Tsang, Fhahiyan and many more Chinese intellects toured India centuries back and had praised Indian culture and Indian people in their tour diaries.
Do you think that scenario is the same as of today? Not at all. China was not led by dictators like Mao or Chau En Lai. It was led by the Kings who built Great wall to protect themselves but not to attack others like how China invaded Tibet 60 years back and how it's talking about Arunachal and put its tongue out to gulp that state (Arunachal Pradesh). The modern day aggression of Chinese is self explanatory.
I have never termed every communist as Desh Drohi. I referred to few Communist leaders in my write-up. I am more than 100% sure that you are as patriotic as I am.
My conviction is based on evidences and present day happenings. In the high-level meeting held about a couple of years back, China declared that if India supports China with regard to Tibet it would not raise the issue of Sikkim and Arunachal in any stage. After Indias statement about accepting accession of Tibet with China, the very next day Chinese Ambassador to New Delhi stated that Arunachal is a disputed territory.
Since, these things are happening day in and day out, I will not trust China as a faithful ally. If you still believe it's a trustworthy ally, then hats off to you. As a thinker, I can deal with Lions but not with Lion faced foxes.
Further, the link given by me to the article also states how brutal China can be in its agression. One must read it to understand the whole range of issues related to China. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Ananda,
I appreciate your whole writing with issues and questions to establish the chinese are not trustworthy and are back stabbers.
But the way you ended the thought, proved that your brain was not working on those issues but was working on the strong foundation that I am a communist and I write and do things against India and in favour of china.
If you can just go back from the pages of past 60 years of history of India-China relations and study the earlier times of centuries, can you site any examples of their back stabbing or wars? If you do not have such instances, then, I believe, your distrust starts with the China that got a government which adopted socialism as goal and named communism.
The article I requested you to read is not in support of China. The writer is a proud Indian. A responsible Officer on the borders those days. Please read it well again.
I willingly pointed that site to you. You can now read another write up in
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/dec/26chin.htm
It is admitted by China that it attacked India on 20th October, 1962.
Why shall we not try to see if we too have blundered? |
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| Guru, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Nagendra Shenoy will now clarify when and who decorated V.D. Savarkar as Veer probably from the elementary book.
We shall await. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Jul 5, 2009 |
This is a nice gesture by the queen to invite Indian President PP to UK and requesting to stay with her. - Alfie
Hey, that's good mate and I bet that you're feeling pretty much gay (as in happy) about it! ;) |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
| Mr Shenoy, talking about Kingfisher and Heinekken, do you know the Govt. Of Goa has just banned the usage of religious names for Bars and wine stores?(Source; TOI today's Goa editon). You may no longer see the names like, ST. Anthony's Bar & Rest, Miraculous Jesus Wines or Shantadurga Bar & Rest. So Mr Shenoy, the next time you are in Goa visiting you favorite Bar Don't be confused by the name, call me. |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 5, 2009 |
"Mangalore had an MP who went on to become the minister." - Shenoy.
Smiling....I know who you are talking about. His name matches with Karnataka ruling party.
The same person is known for asking your 'caste' before offering any help! If I am right, there is a youtube video on the same. Yes, he is very religious these days!! |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 5, 2009 |
“Saffron colour is there from ages like any other colour and has always represented Hinduism. Lord Shri Ram and Lakshman too were in Saffron after denouncing Ayodhya kingdom and leaving back all their materialistic wealth.”…… Nagendra Shenoy, India: [ RE: Padmaja M., India ]
Very interesting dialogue and I do hope I can add a few inputs into the same!!!!!
Currently (and perhaps from the time of Ramayan) saffron is associated with Hindu religious sentiments., and has gained a devine relevance.
Saffron-based pigments have been found in 50,000 year-old depictions of prehistoric beasts in what is today Iraq
In late Hellenistic Egypt, Cleopatra used saffron in her baths before spending time with her paramours. Egyptian healers used saffron as a treatment for all varieties of gastro-intestinal ailments.
In the late author P.N.Oak’s words, even around 6000 years earlier ancients like the Pharaos of Egypt especially during the time of Pharao Ramses II the God King (also known as Sun God)…were practicing a religion like Hinduism especially judging by their worshipping dress of only a loin cloth (seen in the pictures inside Pyramids)…akin to the attire of modern day Brahmins and religious men in India.
Saffron was also used as a fabric dye in such ancient cities as Sidon and Tyre and many ancient medicine men prescribed saffron in medicines for wounds, cough, colic, and scabies, and Romans' too were known for their love of saffron.
During his Asian campaigns, Alexander the Great used Persian saffron in his infusions, rice, and baths as a curative for battle wounds.
Saffron was also brought into India, first into Kashmir by the ancient Persian invaders. Saffron grown in the Himalayan heights especially around Afghanistan is considered the best in the world and enjoys a premium price. Ancient Jains used to bathe the statue of Gomateshwara (at Shravanabelagola) in Turmeric every 12 years. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
The BJP is searching for new version for hindutva.
-GURU
Possible. They should focus on 'INDUTVA' instead. [Indianism] |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Last week, we saw Andhra paradesh MP slapping a Bank manager.
-R Pai
Mangalore had an MP who went on to become the minister. He had intolerance to Bank Managers. He apparently had threatened many of them with transfer to Punjab /Assam if they did not fall in line with his commands. That is nothing short of Goondagiri. The same gentleman is now extremely religious and popular in a certain way. It is another matter that he 'unexpectedly' lost to a very young gentleman after writing him off during the campaign. The old order of politicans is slowly receding into the past.
I suggest public felicitation and retirement function of this politician and allow him to engage himself in full time religious activites. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Why talk of V.D. Savarkar?
(V stands for Vinayak and not Veer) - Guru.
It is well known Guruji. V D stands for Vinayak Damodar and not Veer Dheer. Veer is just an adjective tagged to him, not only by his affiliates but also mentioned in Primary School History Text Books.
Most personalities like Gandhiji, P J Nehru, Tipu Sultan, Subhash Chandra Bose, Bhagat Singh who will always be projected as positive figures in everyone's school days would later be found as controversial figures!
There are many who still prefer to call the FIRST WAR OF INDIAN INDEPENDENCE of 1857 as SEPOY MUTINY and Bhagat Singh as terrorist. There is no cure for that disease of YOUR MAJESTY. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
I hope, you will react well after reading it fully well.-DP Kumar.
DP Uncle,
May such opinions are prevalent in the internet.
You can also read an article by Dan Twining in the following link.
http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/03/10/could_china_and_india_go_to_war_over_tibet
While talking about peace one must be ready for war that could be imposed by back stabbers like China. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
‘India as a nation itself was an imperialistic creation. India's borders, including the addition of the state of Greater Assam to the Union, were a British creation. **** …. Think man’ -DP Saab,
Dear DP Uncle,
Yes, it is nothing but the issue, which everyone has to think.
1. When British created imperial India (as per your explanations) where were Chinese leadership? You say China lost faith on India due to the practice adapted by Indian government. Does it mean if you lose faith on any country you should first say ‘Bhai Bhai’ and then attack them immediately?
2. What was the need for them to exhibit friendship before stabbing us in the back?
3. If India is imperialistic creation, what do you term invasion of Tibet to expand Chinese boarder? Is it not a forceful invasion, like how Hitler did with his neighbouring countries?
4. Why is China still back into its own habit of talking of friendship and indulging in activity that is always against us (India)?
5. Why is China opposing a permanent seat in the UN Security Council for India? If they are true friends they should not oppose India’s candidature for permanent membership of Security Council.
6. If it is (China) true peace lover, why is it expanding its military/Diplomatic activities around Indian sub continent? I am referring to the active Chinese military interventions and diplomatic tactics in the countries like Myanmar, Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
7. Why is China attempting to oppose India’s stand literally in every world forum except World Trade Organization?
8. China has supported Pakistan in its claim of Human Rights violation by India in Kashmir. Do you think their own Human Rights record is anytime better than India?
9. A question related to the above question. What happened the families of all those who were crushed brutally by Chinese military in Tiananmen Square?
10. I saw you talking against war hysteria in the same forum, I really appreciated it. However, I could not digest, when you started advocating Chinese War Hysteria by terming them, they attacked till some place and stopped there after ceasefire etc. etc. and this attack was due to loss of faith on Indian Government …..I assume, you can’t defend war hysteria by quoting silly reasons of faith and boarder.
It does not stop here. In fact, I was/am not seeking answer for, how the Sino-Indian war started and how it ended. My very question was about trustworthiness of our giant neighbour.
I think you too need to come out of old RED (Red colour also stands for blood) thinking and question yourself about what you think, based on the occurrence outside.
I have earlier raised question about ‘Desh Drohi’ Indian Communist leaders who supported China openly during 1962 war. They called Chinese army as ‘Army for freedom’. Even today, they have habit of appreciating any damn thing from China. When China tested Satellite breaking Missile a year back, every political party in India expressed their concern over the issue and Chinese aggression except our own Communists. It is evident that they have not changed despite, the world has changed.
There is a saying, ‘Change or Perish’. I am sure the second thing is going to happen with Indian Communists. We have already seen the glimpses of the same, as Leftists are suffering from their own internal contradiction (ideological) of extremism and collective dictatorship.
COMMUNISM HAS NO BOUNDARY OF ANY NATION. IT IS ANOTHER NAME FOR COLLECTIVE DECTATORSHIP. CHINA IS GOING THROUGH THIS COLLECTIVE DECTATORSHIP. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Sometimes people laugh and mock when Laluji speaks, but without him our parliment debate or discussins are like food without salt.-Richard
Richard,
More than a leader Lalu is an entertainer. That's what we get message from your views. |
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| Roshan Pais, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Sawarkar Issue - was he a patriot or not?
If he was not a patriot, he would not spend his years rotting in the Kalapani prison in port blair Andamans. He had indeed contributed to the freedom struggle. There is no doubt about it. He will always remain as a patriot in my heart.
His life took a different turn after the brutal prison sentence. Present day water boarding is acute form of torture where as the torture endured by Sawarkar was of chronic nature.
This was to break his spirit, break his mind.
I think its fair on my part to think that while at the outset he managed to endure the torture, something had snapped inside his mind.
Lets put ourselves in his shoes to understand him fully. Why did he have to endure all the torture? for the mother land.
Questions remain (in the average minds to intelligent minds) as to did this patriot turn into a bitter man? There is no smoke without fire. But I would not be harsh on this man. I would not condemn him. Naturam Ghodse was the one who pulled the trigger.
No, I would blame the company of Sarwarkar for murdering Mahatma- there were in my opinion fiery nationalist elements. |
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| HP, France |
Jul 5, 2009 |
.....heard in the streets of London...
"the boy again zooms past the Sikh elderly gentleman....and said :
....it is learned from sources that India to develop three mode or shift automobiles which is considered to be the next generation one....
-battery/electricity driven for city limits,
-gas or LPG for outskirts or beyond city limits,
-and, patroleum for highways or freeways.
..the boy further said India to have in all cities exclusive lane for Ambulance and Emergency vehicles reserved at all times.
...it is not known if India would develop the technology indigenously or collaborate.
Thank you, |
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| Guru, India |
Jul 5, 2009 |
Shenoy,
The BJP is searching for new version for hindutva.
RSS also tries to define it once again sidelining the concept of akhand bharat..
Why talk of V.D. Savarkar?
(V stands for Vinayak and not Veer).
In later years after being brain washed, freed and brought back to India, he was allowed to stay at Ratnagiri under observation- and suspectedly as an informer. He shifted to Mumbai much later, after azadi. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Your comments about Veer Savarkar are bare facts-Nelson Lewis
His comments or some downloaded trash from the internet? I have the utmost respect for Mahtma Gandhi. At the same time I believe freedom fighters like Subhash Chandra Bose, Veera Sawarkar, Bhagat Singh deserve recognition. They were not terrorists as Vijay has tried to portray. The slave minded people of our country who still suck up to the white man perhaps think that Veer Sawarkar was not a patriot. The humbug in blaming Sawarkar is obvious. He is seen as a RSS guy by the peseudo secular individuals who have some allergy to the orange colour and patriotism. Long live Veer Sawarkar's memory. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Sun ke mazaa nahin aaya Padmaja, baat mat karo bewaja!
-Nagendra maam
Padmaja tum jaa jaa jaa:) |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 4, 2009 |
However, apart from that, he was the most improbable leader to lead an Islamic nation. He would not read or write Urdu. - PD
Already enough has been written here about Jinnah and Nehru, being the prime actors for partition of India.The main mover behind this act was Jinnah, who could not come to grips with the fact that he had better qualifications than Nehru( Jinnah was a lawyer and Nehru was Masters in arts) and hence the natural suitor to the prime minister's post. Jinnah knew that Nehru had the backing of Gandhi and he could never become the PM of India. Other than this lust for power, nobody would think that Jinnah was a muslim in the true sense of belief, as he was consuming both liquor and pork. In fact, he called a hindu (if I may say so) from India to write Pakistan's national anthem and also Pakistan's first law minister was also a hindu.
Anyway, why hark back upon now. I am just submitting this to throw further light on the then prevailing circuimstances. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Dear Mr. Vijay,
Your comments about Veer Savarkar are bare facts. However, so far I did not want to comment anything about this, because this is a very touchy subject that will arouse the passions of many people, who feel that he is a patriot. However, I do not think so.
In fact, Veer Savarkar was the mastermind of the plot that killed Gandhi and Nathuram Godse, Narayan Apte, Gopal Godse, Vishnu Karkare and Madanlal Pahwa were accessories in the crime. However, being a lawyer by profession, he managed to hatch the plot without leaving tracks that would point at him. That is why though the interrogation team and prosecution knew that he was the mastermind, they just could not prove it by providing the Court with irrefutable and clinching evidence. He just got off the hook.
There are many people who feel that Gandhi was favouring Muslims and he was responsible for the creation of Pakistan. The main culprits responsible for the creation of Pakistan are both Mohammad Ali Jinnah and Jawahar Lal Nehru, because both of them were power hungry and wanted to be leaders of the country. That is why Jinnah fought for a separate homeland for Muslims, namely Pakistan.
One of the best books that I have read on this topic is Freedom at Midnight by Larry Collins and Dominique Lappiere. The uncensored version of this book throws a lot of light on how India got freedom and talks about interesting things, quirks and other facts about Lord and Edwina Mountbatten, Mahatma Gandhi, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, Sardar Vallabhai Patel, Veer Savarkar, Nathuram Godse, Apte and other people involved in the plot, including the person who used to make bullet-proof vests or jackets and lived in Poona, etc.
This book has been written with the help of hard facts, documentary evidence and by interviewing the principal actors who were alive then. Otherwise, it would have faced court cases.
How many people know the personal life of Mohammad Ali Jinnah? In fact, he was one of the best masters of the English language, a top notch lawyer and an Anglophile. However, apart from that, he was the most improbable leader to lead an Islamic nation. He would not read or write Urdu. He just spoke that language. He wore suits tailored at Saville Row (and he wore Sherwani the last one or two years of his life), was a chain smoker of Craven cigarettes and did so many other things that are considered a taboo for most people of his faith. On 14th August 1947, he read the speech declaring Pakistan in English (and not Urdu, the official language of that country).
How many people know the personal facts about Veer Savarkar and Nathuram Godse. They are just shocking and repulsive. For people who do not know anything about certain actors, hearing them for the first time would be a revelation, but there are bare facts. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
nd the best part is one of these chaps has tied a saffrons Shawl around his waist. Such double standards and Hypocricy!!!!!! - Padmaja.
Sun ke mazaa nahin aaya Padmaja, baat mat karo bewaja!
Saffron colour did not come into existence along with formation of Jan Sangh or other BJP affiliated outfits. Saffron colour is there from ages like any other colour and has always represented Hinduism. Lord Shri Ram and Lakshman too were in Saffron after denouncing Ayodhya kingdom and leaving back all their materialistic wealth. 'Wandering Monk of India' Swami Vivekananda (yesterday was his death anniversary BTW) too attended the Parliament of World Religions wearing a Saffron outfit. Saffron occupies 1/3rd of our National Flag.
So don't get carried away by reading usual venom spewing comments against Saffron brigade. It might be a favourite colour to many of them including that guy, just like you and me have our own favourite colours. |
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| Vijay, USA |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Shenoy,
There is plenty of evidence which links Savarkar to Gandhi's murder.
"No one contests that Nathuram Godse, Gandhi’s murderer, was a member of Hindu Mahasabha, and that he went to meet Savarkar days before he killed Gandhi. Digambar Badve, the approver, said that he heard Savarkar tell Godse, “Gandhichi shambhar varsha puri zhali” (Gandhi’s century is over) and “Yashasvi howun yaa” (“Come back with success”).
What irked Savarkar was that the Hindus overwhelmingly followed Gandhi. The Hindu Mahasabha sometimes won seats in local elections; but in provincial elections it was invariably trounced by the Congress. It could not even win the seat from Bombay, where Savarkar had made his home. The almost-barrister ex-terrorist who in his youth outshone the gentle Gandhi was ignored by everyone, even the British government to which he had become loyal. The reality was bitter; it poisoned Savarkar’s writings. Anyone who read Savarkar and believed him in the 1930s and 1940s would have wanted to kill Gandhi.
Delivering a lecture on Savarkar at the Asian College of Journalism here today, Mr. Noorani said three key factors contributed to the acquittal of Savarkar. There was no material that could, in legal terms, corroborate the evidence of the approver (Digambar Badge) in the case. None of the major witnesses was "forthcoming" (about the relationship between Savarkar and Gandhi's assassin Nathuram Godse).
Substantiating his statement that Savarkar organised the murder of Gandhi, the constitutional expert who authored "Savarkar and Hindutva: The Godse Connection," said even at the time of the trial, there was evidence about the political and ideological association of Savarkar and Godse. More material on this came to light a few years after Sarvarkar's deathin 1966 when his aides appeared before a Commission of Inquiry, headed by J.L. Kapur, former Supreme Court Judge. Also, the material accessed by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre, authors of ``Freedom at Midnight," could also have fulfilled the requirements of corroborative evidence.
The Report of the Commission of Inquiry into the Conspiracy to murder Mahatma Gandhi, was headed by Justice Jivanlal Kapur of the Supreme Court and was provided with evidence not produced in the court; especially the testimony of two of Savarkar's close aides - Appa Ramachandra Kasar, his bodyguard, and Gajanan Vishnu Damle, his secretary.
There was none of the ambiguity surrounding Godse and Apte's visits to Savarkar on January 14 and 17, 1948. Kasar told the Kapur Commission that they visited him on or about January 23 or 24, which was when they returned from Delhi after the bomb incident. Damle deposed that Godse and Apte saw Savarkar "in the middle of January and sat with him (Savarkar) in his garden."
Justice Kapur's findings concluded: "All these facts taken together were destructive of any theory other than the conspiracy to murder by Savarkar and his group."
In his crime report No.1, the main police investigating officer, Jimmy Nagarvala, had stated that "Savarkar was at the back of the conspiracy and that he was feigning illness." Nagarvala's letter of January 31, 1948, the day after the assassination, mentioned, on the strength of what Kasar and Damle disclosed to him, that Savarkar, Godse and Apte met for 40 minutes "on the eve of their departure to Delhi" and that these two had access to the house of Savarkar without any restriction." In short, Godse and Apte met Savarkar again, in the absence of Badge, and in addition to their meetings on January 14 and 17." |
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| Govindraj, Canada |
Jul 4, 2009 |
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Thank you,
Best,
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**Happy birthday America |
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| Govindraj, Canada |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Shenoy Uncle :
"elli mana kalu kiradu".....
Wonderful. One word.
You digged through my memories of Canara High School where this is the prayer before we begin classes.
"sweat, toil and tears and a little bit of thoughtfulness bring-in lasting rewards" and this can be achieved by any one in any society under any condition.
Thank you is again the word.
Best,
Govindraj |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
"It is like how they announced 'Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai' and back stabbed India by imposing a War on us."-Ananda Padebettu
Wing Commander (retd) R V Parasnis,
pertinently asks a question which contains answer in itself:
"Was it the age-old Hindu cowardice, a habit of leaving the battlefield and running in disarray when the king/general was killed in battle, coming into play yet again in a slightly different form? Maybe.
"India as a nation itself was an imperialistic creation. India's borders, including the addition of the state of Greater Assam to the Union, were a British creation. If we rejected our rights in Tibet as an imperialistic creation, what rightful claim had we on the borders fixed in accordance with British expansionism? But without the military might to back it up, Nehru did exactly that.
India, under Nehru, was an antithesis of most of the theories he applied in governance. Taking advantage of the British imperial legacy when it suited us while otherwise denouncing it roundly, we managed to lose all the respect China had for us, to be replaced by contempt. Which made it easier for them to ambush and capture or kill our patrols and take punitive action against us in 1962. "
China invaded on 20th October 1962. After advancing in various fronts including Tawang, on 24th October, the Chinese Government made an offer to negotiate. The Indian Govt promptly rejected this offer.
By November 18, the Chinese had penetrated close to the outskirts of Tezpur, Assam, a major frontier town nearly fifty kilometers from the Assam-North-East Frontier Agency border.
The Chinese did not advance farther and on November 21 declared a unilateral cease-fire.
They had accomplished all of their territorial objectives, and any attempt to press farther into the plains of Assam would have stretched their logistical capabilities and their lines of communication to a breaking point. By the time the fighting stopped, each side had lost 500 troops.
After administering a blistering defeat in 1962, the Chinese forces withdrew 20 km behind the McMahon Line, which China called “the 1959 line of actual control” in the Eastern Sector, and 20 km behind the line of its latest position in Ladakh, which was further identified with the “1959 line of actual control” in the Western Sector.
(quote from other article)
It pains every Indian. But for whose faults?
Are we not made victims of western conspiracy and propoganda tactics! That's why you still hate China. You do not have any past history to write about trust and distrust.
Just think man. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
"Because of this kind of track record majority Indians do not trust China."-Ananda
Dear friend, tell me since when majority Indians started distrusting Chinese people?
I request you to go through a historic writing by Wing commander (Retd) R V Parasnis in
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/nov/27chin.htm
I hope, you will react well after reading it fully well. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
I think you are lucky with one brain cell.-RAGHU
SOMETHING HAS SURVIVED!-Jurassic Park 4. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Because of this kind of track record majority Indians do not trust China by Mr. Ananda P.
Dear Mr. Ananda P.,
However, for some, this country with a totalitarian regime is a land of utopia. |
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| ashraf, UAE |
Jul 4, 2009 |
raja, India, YOUR ATTITUDE SHOWS, you or your parents migrated from pakistan to india during partition along advani, so give your advise to your children or family to go back to your roots, you have come to india to disturb our peace,
IF WE ALLOW THIS TYPE OF FANATICS TO BE IN INDIA VERY SOON THERE WILL BE A PARTITION OF INDIA IN THREE, FOR HINDUX, MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS, THREE SEPERATE COUNTRIES OUT OF INDIA THEN YOU WILL BE HAPPY, WITH HINDU RASTRA. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Subsequently, China even handed over a new official map to India, clearly showing Sikkim as part of Indian territory. -DP Kumar.
Dear DP Saab,
It is OK with us. However, China also promised (officially) not to rake up the issue of Arunachal any more.
They forgot the same and they have broken their promise. It is like how they announced 'Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai' and back stabbed India by imposing a War on us.
Because of this kind of track record majority Indians do not trust China. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
What about day train between Mangalore and Bangalore, pending since long time?-Thekkar saab, India.
It looks like it would remain a day Dream. 'Mungerilaal ke Haseen Sapney'. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
Bonnie,
I have to appreciate your views on our first Prime Minister Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. He was a visionary. He worked well with a dream for future of India. Whatever coastal connectivity is there in Karnataka is of Nehruvian era except Gangoli and Honnavar bridges.
As regarding China, may be his views and actions went wrong. From what I read, I feel that the legacy left by expansionist British Empire with McMohan line dragged his feet on wrong wool. His begging bowl with US for wheat made him act in violation of non-aligned stand adopted by India as regarding Tibet.
After a big gap of more than 3 decades,
India now does not see Sikkim as a "disputed area", especially after a compromise formula was worked out during Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's visit to China in 2003.
Under the arrangement, India recognised the Tibet Autonomous Region as a part of China. In return, through a border trade agreement, Beijing recognised the "Sikkim state" to be a constituent of the Indian union.
Subsequently, China even handed over a new official map to India, clearly showing Sikkim as part of Indian territory.
I am confident that Dr.Manmohan Singh will do better in resolving whatever issues are pending on the table to build strong relations with all our neighbours. |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jul 4, 2009 |
PSU Vs Private Sector
Nagendra Shenoy,
It is your virtue that you look at things from right angle. In Nehruvian days the economy was controlled by monopolists. They held control over industries as well banking and Insurance. They were in newspaper business too.
But the monopolists were not able to contribute towards development as they were after profits. They exploited labour.
Even today, if we look at the private sector, just we have to look at how many have come and fleeced and left. It is far too much than what the private sector contributed by the industrilists like Tatas, Birlas, Ambanies, Bajaj and few others.
Another point to note is that the ancilliary units of the large PSUs were in the private sector the investment and profits of which were more than the main PSU.
Thus, it was a mixed economy which was advocated by Pandit Nehru.
Today, what we see is a shift from Public sector towards Private sector. Profit has become the mantra day in and day out. Stock indices to induce investment is the game. And we see thousands of them get birth in Private sector and vanish like bubbles, which is not a healthy sign for the nations economy. |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
If consensual relationship can be legalised, why arrest prostitutes?
Prostitution is also consensual. Let prostitution shops be opened! Let there be advertisements with "healthy, hygeinic conditions and 24 hour service" with names of visiting doctors!!
It is a draconian judgement by the Delhi High court to have axed sec.377 of IPC. It might push Indian society too early prompting immorality. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
wISHING GOOD LUCK..Mr. NALIN KUMAR.-Francis Fernandes
He will need a whole lot of it as he belongs to the opposition.He can do some constructive opposition along with his party MP 's. That is how a democracy functions. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Can Mr. Praful Patel give an explanation?-Nelson Lewis
Praful Patel did not cause the problem. He has only inherited it. So obviously he will not be able to give any explanations.People like Tatas can run the show better, Even Vijay Mallya [and I have Mr Praveen Pinto's permission to say so.:)]would do a better job.Air INDIA should consider selling some of its routes to King Fisher.It will become posh and very desirable air lines within no time.
PS: At least you may get King Fisher beer along with Heineken on board.:) |
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| M S RAO, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
| Oh.. in this country everything will be named after Indira & Rajiv. Earlier it used to be Nehru and in few cases Mahathma Gandhi. Now the govt does not want people to get confused with the name of Mahathma Gandhi hence restrict only to Indira & Rajiv. |
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| M S RAO, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
| True. but who is bothered not the kannadiga nor the citizens of Karnataka. How many people have ever reacted to this injustice.. neglect of Karnataka by our elected representative and Central Govt. With this background whatever tiny benefits are announced is really great. Long LIve Karnataka..Jai HO ! |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
all other Indian tourists are with grim or sour face.-Sandesh
Pure inferiority complex there. The Sandesh is very clear.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Children raised by single mother are more likely to live in poverty, take part in crime and end up in jail. -Mike USA
I am responding to this isolated point and not to the entire post.Whether what Mike said has any connection with the topic that was being discussed is another matter. This particular point about single mothe families is relevant and is a stark reality. New York has lots of such social issues especially among the blacks. Tanya will agree with me. |
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| M S RAO, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
| What use if there are no trains.. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Veer Savarkar was involved in the plot to assasinate Gandhi-Vijay
Where did you read it Vijay? If you tell the same lie again and again, does it become the truth automatically? Give us the referrence please. If not you will get this message quoted daily till the editor gets bored and decides to cut the crap. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
but for AIR and PEOPLE, I am of the opinion you have not smelled properly yet. Have patience.-Alfred Rebello
He has not travelled by public transport so far:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
two son's will probably be able to answer your questions posted.-Nakul
Nakul, how is Sahadev?:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Muniyappa being a kannadiga has done injustice to the people of Dakshina Kannada.-Thekkar
What do you expect from Ji huzoor type of makmal topis? His role is to supply water to the senors and keep the table clean. Did he say anything at all? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
If your view is personal damaging I have serious objections for it.-Shaik
Shaik saab, I do not understand if you have understood what was expressed in my post in response to a small part of your post. That was not a response to your entire post.
You had mentioned about abortion. I made a little FUN of it by saying'Gays can abort only one thing'. It means gays can not abort. Period. There is no question of any view being expressed there. In fact what was expressed was not a view but a light hearted fun.I take it that you realise it was not directed at you. If you have taken offence where none was meant, let me clarify to you that no personal damage was implied.So rest assured that I HAVE NOT expressed my opinion about Gays or their rights.They can live by their way of life. Rest of us can live by our way of life. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
How would we feel if some one did that to us?
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PD,
Normally when someone dear to us die, we cry.
I didn't, when my father passed away! I solaced my mother, my brothers and my sisters, though I am the youngest in the family!
I was just 20 then!
Now, coming back to your point, I see a similarity between these two things - someone lost in an accident or disaster otherwise, or someone dear to us passing away! We feel equally speechless when we get such shocking news!
I'll tell you one more incident. My closest friend jumped off Ullal Bridge on July 6th, 1976. His body was found three days later. I didn't go and pay my last respects, because he didn't tell me that he was going to commit suicide! The same person who used to tell me about every damn negative moves, never told me he had a positive move in mind!
Paradox, you might think, but I take these incidents as eye openers, making us strong enough to face life's reality! |
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| Mike, USA |
Jul 3, 2009 |
| If human rights are given by man they can be snatched away by man. The American declaration of independence explicitly states that men are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights." The record of dictatorships and Communist countries prove that rights based on reason are not worth the paper on which they are written. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Media too should be regulated
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Nagendra,
During emergency, many had criticised Mrs. Gandhi for censorship on media. There was a controversial film too during those days called "Kissa Khursi Ka"!
Do you want such situation prevail in otherwise liberated India?
Just take a walk near K R Market/Shivaji Nagar/Bapuji Nagar in Bangalore. You will see the stark truth! No media exposure is necessary!
PS: Carry your camera! You don't know when you get a good subject for 'Captured Moments'! |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Hi Nelson Lewis -
I usually do not write about Indian economic history as it has a checked history of socialism and private enterprise. However, your criticism of Nehru is not based on reality, I suppose. First, let me tell you that Nehru chose socialism over capitalism because what he observed from Marwari clans (these are his words not my). In his book he says that India is a country of masses and we can not allow few people to profit from the (misery of ) masses. I read that he visited a factory run by these so called capitalists of those days and saw what was going on (the exploitation) first hand and decided that India would never be capitalistic where interests of few would trump over the interests of many (masses). You can not ignore his contribution in building the damns because of which India is self sufficient in food production, setting up of public sectors which not only produced goods but also generated manpower (with knowledge base) for private industries later on. He was also responsible for setting up institutes of higher education like IITs and others.
You must remember that one can only do much in a limited time frame that he ruled.
I must say that compared to present day politicians his contributions to independent India are very noteworthy.
His failures are primarily on foreign policy fronts; and I do not blame him completely:what can yo do if you trust someone and they do not return that trust (read China)
So, all in all, do not discount him as some fuddy-duddy old man who did not know what he was doing. I would say compared to present day politicians his achievemnts are super-duper. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
media coverage of disasters/mishaps and war front have brought the reality to public - KRS.
KRS,
Upto a certain extent, certain things can be tolerated. Seeing is believing. But is it necessary to dig up things from the grave very often?
I don't think it is necessary to show the Babri demolition just because Liberhan Commission is submitting its report or it is December 6. Or you are showing a programme on BJP or Advani. Is it not sufficient enough to fuel the tensions of Mysore or provoke the troublemakers from various sides?
Just like Banks, Insurance, Telecom, Advertisements have a regulator, bull has got a 'moogu-daara', Media too should be regulated. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
What business did Indira Gandhi have to nationalise Air India? - Nelson Lewis.
Nelson Maam,
Seriously I do not have any idea. Neither did I knew it was nationalized by Mrs. Gandhi.
But let us not put the blame entirely on nationalization or Government alone. It might have been because of various reasons.
Government's business might be governance and not business but let us not forget that a lot of PSUs too are doing great, are most trusted and admired Brands and cash rich companies. Courtesy to my job, I have dealt with NMDC Ltd. (A Navaratna company) at Donimalai near Bellary, NMPT Mangalore, Corporation Bank Mangalore, Nuclear Power Coproration of India Ltd. Kaiga near Karwar, All India Institute of Speech & Hearing Mysore (Started by GOI and affiliated to Mysore University). All were cash rich, highly process oriented, 100% transparent organizations. There was no hanky-panky business with these organizations.
Coming to private sector, I do not undermine them. It would be foolishness of me to do so. A 60 Bn $ IT Industry created by Private Sector alone in roughly 3 decades is for all of us to see. At the same time don't we have a Satyam? Isn't Wipro banned by World Bank for their alleged malpractices? Is there any innovation brought by Hindustan Motors in their Ambassador ever since its launch, except for selling old wine in new bottle?
Today PSUs like ONGC, Oil India Ltd. IOCL, HPCL, BPCL, Coal India Ltd, SBI and many others find a place in the most trusted/admired/reputed Indian companies. Our Nationalized Banks haven\'t gone into losses like AI.
Note - Is Business the business of Business or is Business in the interest of the society? |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 3, 2009 |
| I heard Karnataka Government planning to ban cow slaughter. If they do then we find these cows and unwanted animals all over the roads very soon because no common man can look after un-wanted animals in this costly world and it could be another disaster. Perhaps, I hope Dr. Acharya must have made some arrangements to look after them before making it a law. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
PPS: I am convinced that the real name of Puttur Dinesh maam is Peter D Souza. It can not be any thing else. He does not match any other description.:)-Shenoy Maam.
Shenoy maam,
I think it's a great revelation. I think your agents RAW (Kachcha) are across the world feeding information to you day in and day out. (;-D).
However, it doesn’t make any difference when you address him as PD. We were all doing so. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
The smell in the air-N Shastry
I hope you are referring to Udupi Krishna Bhavana Masala Dosa smell. There are many types of smell in Bangalore. Have you travelled around Kalsi palyam? Kinda smelly I must admit.:)
Welcome and please express your thoughts. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 3, 2009 |
The smell in the air, the people, the food, everything is adorable.- Narasima Shastry.
I can understand the smell of the food, because you are smelling Indian delicacy, but for AIR and PEOPLE, I am of the opinion you have not smelled properly yet. Have patience. |
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| Vijay, USA |
Jul 3, 2009 |
| Veer Savarkar was involved in the plot to assasinate Gandhi. It is shameful to praise a murderer and communal hatemonger. |
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| Sudhakara Kotian, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
in pakistan and bangladesh hindus suffer same like this...so tit for tat...yeddi ka jai
Sunil Bhai, shayad Pakistan aur Bangladesh ka bhai log bhi yehi baath bol rahe hain. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jul 3, 2009 |
I see your point Raj
With their hunger for more readership/veiwership media tries to make the pictures and news as real as possible but at the same time, respect for the dead person and their family is very important. How would we feel if some one did that to us?
I think it all depends on the journalistic ethics, by the way news papers in US are going out of business, they are either becoming smaller and smaller by the day or just go online. |
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| Shaikh Mohd Rizwan, Turkey |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Brother Shenoy,
I think you come from one of the most educated part from the most educated family. If you are practicing and one among the same God forbidden cult of nature enemies I don't need to explain you. If your view is personal damaging I have serious objections for it. I recognize your name very well in the forum and some times view your comment.
If you see the biological creation of self invented practice there is no need of abortions. Every human being practice the call of nature whenever it is necessary and does not require to do so once in a day that is only in the morning.
My comment is pointed toward the people who practice gay culture and the ruling of high court of Delhi. If the govt today legalizes the gay practice, lesbian follow the suit and some may ask for abortions to legalize. What will be the consequences of our nation and where none of Hindu holy books or scriptures support the claims. And does Islamic and christian holy books too.
I do not like to personally damage any persons dignity. If the gay say so they are different let them look behind on t house people who were born with permanent disability at least they are more superior than t house. But if you among the ones I condemn this practice and it will disaster for our nation and God punish them all.
Hope you understand the meaning of true evolution of mankind.
Jai Hind |
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| Shaikh Mohd Rizwan, Turkey |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Dear Brother,
If Mr. Thakray is right you are wrong. Don't be sympathetic to his views. Do you remember Victoria Terminus and Santacruz Int Airport was renamed after the great Martha warrior Chathrapthi Shivaji in his own term. Why did he select the same name for two different place? Why did he name Bombay to Mumbai? Insted of renaming to Mumbai and one of the two important two land marks, he could selected the three names he was suggesting.
Mr. Thakray must have forgotten the contribution of our father of nation Mahatma Gandhi for the independence and freedom struggle for this nation. But at least don't bring down the dignity of the honored personality. I am not supporter of any parties but sure I have some least respect for this scions.
If you happen to ask Mr. Thakray and his elder members of his family, where are you during the time of independence you might not get clear cut of answer. Hence don't make any statement not critical to affect the dignity of personality.
Hope you do so as proud citizen of India.
Jai Hind |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
without knowing what goes on the murky world of international politics-Merwyn Machado
Feel free to inform us Merwyn.
What about the other financiers of Pakistan? Does president Obama know what Pakistan is doing? |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Mr. Alfred J. Rebello,
You will get whatever you want, be it factory made liquor, namely whisky, rum, brandy, gin, beer, tequila (with salt and lime to have tequila in style) and what you ask, you will get. This is for the people with class, taste and money. The Karnataka Government of Mr. B.S. Yeddyurappa is beckoning you and other well-oiled and heeled blokes. So, please stand in the queue if you have to or if you do not have the patience, jump the queue or gate crash and grease the palm of the ever-hungry watchman and wish him a fine day. That way, you will be ahead of the others. So grab the opportunity with both your hands and have a tipple.
Further, the Government will also market Arrak, hooch and also market moonshine stuff produced by hath bhatti walas. These drinks are for people who have to survive on a budget or live on a shoestring. They will also sell at cheap rates fried and roasted papads, peanuts, boiled eggs, friend fish and other eats. Drink, eat and be happy.
So brother Alfred, the choice is yours. Have a drink and then blink like owl. Uncle Yeddy is doing a yeoman service for you and the people of Karnataka. |
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| NARASIMHA SHATRY, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Hi Everybody
I have joined today. I am curious to know anybody knows me. My name is Narasimha Shastry. I have lost touch with many of my childhood friends as I was out of India for long time. I had my primary schooling in Ganapathy High School Mangalore and the rest in St. Philomena in Puttur when Mr Denis D'souza was the Headmaster. Now I have settled in Bangalore and a Director of a Swiss MNC. It feels good hae come back to India. In spite of all problems we face in this country India is the best for me. The smell in the air, the people, the food, everything is adorable. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
As a society have we stooped to such a low level that we have need to praise people who get fame from others miseries?
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PD,
media coverage of disasters/mishaps and war front have brought the reality to public, just like your favourite site youtube.com has exposed many walks of life.
There was a prize winning picture of a small girl running naked in panic during Vietnam War bombing that I have seen in some famous magazine(LIFE I guess). She is still alive, that's a different story altogether!
You may use browse through these links if you are interested -
http://www.rockwood.k12.mo.us/lafayette/buck/syllabus/vietnamphotos.htm
http://news.therecord.com/article/534508
This trend has been started by your favourite Country USA and now the entire world has benefited by following that trend. Do you see it as a bad trend or good? |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Saudi Arabia is not without faults... But it is not the only country which is at fault. It is one of the decent countries in the world. It has never shown aggression towards others. It lives by its natural resources. They have never begged any one any favours. I RESPECT Saudi Arabia any day.
Shenoymaam
Do not utter such profound statements without knowing what goes on the murky world of international politics. Every country has some skeletons in its cupboards & in Saudi Arabia's case, it is whispered, it is the active financier of Pakistan's nuclear weapons program. Little wonder Nawaf Sharif took exile there when things got too hot for him from Musharraf. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
You might have gone to a school which do not collect huge amount of donation / fees - N S Shenoy.
NSS Maam,
Whatever fees we paid every year, it was sufficient enough for the school to hire maids and we did have them in right number. Yet, we had to do this.
I studied in Nalanda English High School which is on V T Road. Our Headmistress was a FIREBRAND lady. She would command respect not only from we students and teachers but also from parents. Even today words do not come freely from our mouth when we speak to her. She would take Bhagavadgita classes to students on Saturday afternoon at Krishna Mandir on V T Road, free of cost. The Founder President of my school was Late Mr. K Vishwanath Kamath, father of Mr. K V Kamath of ICICI Bank. In terms of height, as tall as Mr. K V Kamath. In terms of ethics and values, taller than most industry heads today. Current President is Dr. Kasturi Mohan Pai, renowned Cardiologist.
The idea of sweeping duty was to inculcate 'Dignity of Labour' in us at a very tender age, irrespective of what your social status was. It was/is not because of lack of funds to hire maids. As per her order, none of the students, teachers and parents would call the peon/maid by name but with a suffix 'akka', simply because 'Treat even those below you (in position, social status, income) with respect'. Highly ideological and a lady of principles and values. She once sent back a tempo full of refreshments from Taj Mahal which came on the birthday of an influential GSBs son's birthday who happened to be my classmate.
During 'Kartik Punnav', the students of our school would be invited for the feast in the noon which used to happen behind our school. She had made it clear to the temple authorities that the school would join the feast only if the students from other religion and caste (we had Muslims, Christians, Bunts, Billavas in our school) would be allowed and be treated equal to GSBs. Today she is one of my role models. And yes.... words hardly come out of our mouth when we are in front of her!
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Coming to St. Ann's, it is a well reputed school/college in Mangalore. One would agree that a school has to provide water, power etc. but rest of the demands (holiday to get rid of tiredness, apology from teachers without knowing the truth) are meaningless. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 3, 2009 |
By the way Mr. N.S. Shenoy and Mr. Nagendra Shenoy, I had done my schooling in a school which was considered amongst the best in Bombay those days and we had a sprinkling of students, who later on went to become Bollywood stars and one of them is Anil Kapoor. Others reached very high positions and excelled themselves in their chosen fields and vocations. Very few, including the writer, turned out to be riffraffs.
Hailing from the biggest metropolis in the country, whose residents are highly mobile and vanish without any trace, I have lost touch with most of the school mates. However, fortunately one is staying in the suburb where I reside and I bump into him whenever I am on leave and he tells me another school mate of mine is a Chartered Accountant, who has his apartment somewhere where we live. However, he is employed abroad. Many have gone to different countries or are in different places in the country. In Bahrain, I met another school mate, but he has gone to Canada and settled there.
However, yesterday when I was watching the Sony programme which is relayed at 11.30 p.m., conducted by Anu Malik (or Anu Kapoor) and Farah Khan and the effervescent Mona Singh (and some other guy), where all sorts of people come and display their talents, I was very happy to see a choir programme by the children of the school where I studied. However, things may have changed, because when I studied it was just a boys' school, today it is co-educational, because the choir comprised males and females.
Moreover, those days it was run by Irish missionaries, but today it must be run by the Indian priests of the same order. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Mr. Nagendra Shenoy,
Thank you very much for quoting Mr. Narayana Murthy and I do respect his opinions, have high regards for him and that will not diminish just because his opinion of Jawahar Lal Nehru is different to mine.
Dr. Sarvapally Radhakrishnan had a very low opinion of Nehru and there is plenty of literature and books to show that Nehru was just a vain man, a dreamer, etc. and not a practical and far sighted person.
A book that one should read is, "With Two Presidents" by Major Dutta, who was A.D.C. to President Rajendra Prasad and then President Sarvapally Radhakrishnan. There is a plethora of information on Nehru and other politicians of the day.
Yes, he built the four integrated steel plants at Bokaro, Bhilai, Rourkela and Durgapur, under the public sector. These were colossal wastes due to being in the public sector, with bosses having no accountability, corruption, inefficiency, job security for employees, etc., etc. They had to be propped up with taxpayers' monies. Whereas, TISCO, under Tatas, has been doing well right from the day one, just because of reasons being opposite to what I have attributed to the failures of the public sector enterprises.
The Government of the day should have extended finances to reputed private entrepreneurs and under them these plants would have run very efficiently and profitably. Under Tatas, Air India was running efficiently and profitablyand it was amongst the ten top airlines in the world. This is because a businessmen run their business with a "no nonsense" approach. They expect their employees to produce and earn rewards and not demand rewards and benefits, sit tight one one's bottoms and run the entities into losses and the Government plays with taxpayers' monies. How long will this go on?
What business did Indira Gandhi have to nationalise Air India? Today, the Government has spent billions upon billions in keeping the Air India afloat, but it does not want to give it back to Tata or anyone for that matter. Why? Corruption at high levels, free tickets to Ministers and politicians, etc., etc.
Can Mr. Praful Patel give an explanation? |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
"When I was in school, I had something known as 'Sweeping duty' every evening after class."-Nagendra Shenoy.
You might have gone to a school which do not collect huge amount of donation / fees. But, here it is different.
I remember, Nelson Lewis writing sometime back that he has right to demand better service when he pays for it !
The students too do have the right to demand drinking water, light and fans when they pay good sums. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Though I am not fond of any member of the Gandhi family, however I do not utterly hate them. The only exception being Jawahar Lal Nehru - Nelson Lewis
Nelson Maam,
I reproduce the words of Mr. N R Narayana Murthy on J N Jehru, given in an interview on Economic Times 2-3 months back. This is what he had to say.
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The way our politics is going these days regional issues are more important, regional parties are taking centre stage...
That's because the quality of our political leaders is going down. Remember when Jawaharlal Nehru was the PM between 1950 and 1962 this country achieved extraordinary growth. Five steel plants were completed, Bhaba Atomic Energy Research Centre was established Tata Institute of Fundamental research became strong, Bhakra Nangal dam came up, IITs, AIIMS, you name it all of that happened in 12 years post independence. You tell me of any other 12 year period where we made such growth in government.
If you have a great leader of the caliber of Nehru even India with all its problems even after independence, with all its lack of resources can make extraordinary progress. Establishing five steel plants is not easy but the man did it. Establishing a centre for atomic energy research is not easy, he did. Getting 400 plus Phds from around the world to IIT Kanpur was not easy, he did it. All of this happened because of the vision of one man.
In fact in 1967 many of my professors at IIT Kanpur said they all came back to India because of the vision and the enthusiasm of Nehru. Today these institutes are not able to attract five such faculties per year but that man attracted 400 such people at just one institute. What does it tell you? It tells you if you have great leaders you can achieve what seems impossible. I am absolutely convinced, as I have written in the book, three fundamental pieces of development -- values practiced by people, leaders who serve as a role models and the elite and the powerful who will eschew any asymmetry of benefits. These three pieces of development puzzle are absolutely necessary if India has to make decent, equitable, just fair, growth.
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You can read more of this interview on http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4422219.cms?flstry=1 |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
I am convinced that the real name of Puttur Dinesh maam is Peter D Souza - Shenoy.
Same pinch no back pinch!!!
Chhor kitna bhi hoshiyaar kyun na ho, kahin na kahin toh suraag zaroor chhoD jaata hai.... Yahaan nahin toh kahin aur sahi! :-))
Yeh Ctrl-A aur Ctrl-C bahut hi kharaab cheez hai P D'Souzam, isse Ctrl-V karte waqt bahut hi hoshiyar rehna chahiye! ;-) |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
"The answers for the first 2 questions are MOTHER and FATHER (Mathru Devo Bhava, Pitru Devo Bhava. I do not remember the question by the way)."-Nagendra Shenoy.
I think, Shenoymam has given rest of the two answers. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 3, 2009 |
Shridhar Rao,
You wrote: "As long as gays & lesbians do not affect society by their behaviour in public why bother?"
Are we moving too fast to catch up with what appears to be unnatural? I really do not know how a GAY is born or why his/her mind works in a diffwerent way?
I have read in newspapers of Gay Marriages. Will they deliver any kids? What type of sexual actions they commit?
Homosexulaity is unnatural for those who can have a clear married life and beget children. But it is a fancy tendency with many married persons having children to go to Gay clubs in European countries. There are such people who lure and induce poor and even children to such acts.
I wondered at hundreds of men including
married people sending me mails for friendship writing at the end "Love and hugs". I felt ashamed to reply to those unknown ones.
In the beginning, I, responded to them in normal course. I enquired as to whether they are Eunuchs and found as not.
To all who support legalising this activity and scrapping Sec.377 of IPC, my question is why do the Government prohibit buying or watching pornographic books and internet sites and punishable including "adults in private"? |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Raj
I don't see the context of your original thoughts and borrowed thoughts.
My issue is with the pictures of a dead woman from a landslide. As a society have we stooped to such a low level that we have need to praise people who get fame from others miseries?
Just because that woman is a gowda, her life and respect is not less important.
Probably that woman never had peace when she lived, at least let her rest in peace. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
a day after abortions? Is -Shaik
Gays can abort only one thing like any one else; preferrably in the morning time.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
The only exception being Jawahar Lal Nehru. - Nelson Lewis
How about some thing in Mr Vajpayee's name as well? He is a decent person. He deserves to be remembered.If not now, may be in the future.
PS: If BJP comes to power, they will use his name. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
hawala money- Raji
Hawala is only the method of remittance. The money is used in the country to buy the materials needed to build their prayer hall. What is wrong in that? The money stays within India. India benefits from that. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Best example is - Saudi Arabia!! They are totally in denial of what goes on in their own society!!
-R Pai
While it may exist there, that is obviously not s major problem in that country. It is a huge problem in North America and Europe. People tend to imitate their heroes and tend to copy them. That includes the drug culture and other things you have mentioned. Americans might be open about what they are doing in their closets. They believe in washing the dirty laundry in public. Homosexuality is a trait seen only in homo sapiens. Other animals have a reason and a season. They don't mate at no rhyme and no reason. They mate in the most natural way. There is no question of patronising the Kottyam rubber or the French leather.
Saudi Arabia is not without faults. But it is not the only country which is at fault. It is one of the decent countries in the world. It has never shown aggression towards others. It lives by its natural resources. They have never begged any one any favours. I RESPECT Saudi Arabia any day. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
"She (Shobha) met officials at New York and discussed implementation of rural development programs through local administration-R Pai
Is it not possible for a foreigner who is a member of a team visiting with a specific purpose to show interest in the programme and participate? American universities distribuite the syllabus and programmes well in advance so that the participants have time to do some research and get their basics right before they travel.It is possible that Shobhaji might have studied the topics and tried participation. I have attended various programmes in the USA over the years.I have studied the contents in some detain several weeks before the actual travel. That made it easier for me to grasp the concepts better and make use of the limited time at the actual meetings well.I take it that the delegation members had some level of coaching.
It is another matter that they might have also visited the China Town in the late afternoon to look for some bargains.
PS: So called cabbages who have been despised by the peers have risen to phenomenal levels in science and medicine.There is this cardiothoracic surgeon who was not considered so great any time; till he landed with his qualification in that field. He has not looked back since. He is considered one of the best in India.
PPS:Kalidasa was considered ignorant shepherd till Devi wrote 'Beejamantra' on his tongue. He became 'Kaviratna Kalidasa'. Every person has a chance to become something or some one significant. Each child is special. God made us all different with different abilities. We all have a contribution to make to this world. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Yaksha asks the same 4 questions -Nagendra maam
What about the question where Yaksha asks 'What is the greatest wonder in thos world'? Yudhishtira answers 'The greatest wonder is that the man sees his father, mother, brothers, firnds die around him everyday. Still he thinks that death is not for him'.
Do you remember this question and the answer Nagendra maam?
PS: Americans don't believe in Yaksha Prashne. Ask Puttur Dinesh maam. He will tell you that Americans were born to live forever and they are not suppossed to die even when fighting an unnecessary war.
PPS: I am convinced that the real name of Puttur Dinesh maam is Peter D Souza. It can not be any thing else. He does not match any other description.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
We had a lesson on this episode in Std. IX or X again if I am right.
-Nagendra maam
We also had a lesson. But it was in 5th/6th standard. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
almost resembling 'Gangetic Ghadiyal', known as 'Kunti' in local markets. -Mr Kudpi
If you look carefully, you will come across Kunti Kana Kumar also. [Asking for votes.:)] Only thing is that he was fish out of water during Mangalore summer. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
let us unshackle these bonds and come out and live free men.-Sreedhar Rao
The preference is kinda obvious in the 'bottom line'.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Veer Savarkar was a terrorist -Vijay
Such opinions are expressed by people who have slave like mentality to the British Raj. Veera Savarkar was a patrioit. Feel proud of him if you can. Otherwise avoid making baseless allegations.Only your name is Vijay. But you are a loser. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Dear Mr. Prashant Shetty,
I personally do not think anything should be named after the Nehru family and we have to put an end to it somewhere. Though I am not fond of any member of the Gandhi family, however I do not utterly hate them. The only exception being Jawahar Lal Nehru. However, if any monument is named after Mahatma Gandhi, I have no objection simply because he was the father of the nation, whose contributions are immense and selfless.
Well there are certain places that have been named after Bal Gangadhar Tilak or Jyotiba Phule who worked for the upliftment of the the downtrodden. At least they have something named after them.
What about naming our public places, bridges, roads, buildings of prominence, etc. after such personalities who are dead like Dr. Salim Ali (world famous ornithologist), Sir Jim Corbett (probably the world's greatest authority on tigers, wildlife, jungles, etc. and whose services were requisitioned by the British Government to train officers in junle warfare), Field Marshals Cariappa and Maneckshaw, cricketers, namely C.K. Nayudu, Vijay Merchant, Vijay Hazare, Vinoo Mankad, Havaldar Abdul Hamid, who displayed exemplary bravery during the 1965 war by single-handedly destroying Pakistan's Patton tanks, the Keelor brothers, etc. Then, there is hockey wizard, Dhyan Chand, ex-Indian President, Dr. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan, etc. We could also honour Dalai Lama, Mother Teresa, Sir William Bentinct and various other personalities who have rendered immense services to the public and humanity.
I personally do not believe in honouring people who are alive and kicking. I personally feel that this is glorification of people who are alive and kicking. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Here is a touching article from The NY times. Do read it.
Letter from India
Journey to India Is Inside the Mind
ANAND GIRIDHARADAS
Published: July 2, 2009
MUMBAI — The first thing I ever learned about India was that my parents had chosen to leave it. The country was lost to us in America, where I was born. It had to be assembled in my mind, from the fragments of anecdotes and biannual journeys east.
Now, six years after returning to the country my parents left, as I prepare to depart it myself, the mind goes back to the beginning, to my earliest pictures of India.................
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/world/asia/03iht-letter.html |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
You may call her Virgin Kunti from now on Nagendra maam
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Shenoy maam, I have seen a fish with sharp long mouth full of small sharp teeth, almost resembling 'Gangetic Ghadiyal', known as 'Kunti' in local markets. Has it got anything to do with Mahabharata?
Nagendra may elaborate, as he frequents fish market. :D |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jul 2, 2009 |
"Time will tell if he practices inclusive or exclusive politics....what do you say Mr. Pai maam??" - Liaquat, Mangalore.
Dear Liaquat,
As far as I know, the "kere" (pond) didn't vote BJP or Congress! If the "kere" is restored, the water is going to help everyone from every religion.
True - Time will tell if Nalin kumar did good things/ bad things/ nothing. Let's not make any premature judgements as our bitter friend Michael Lobo seems to be doing in all of his posts. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
I can believe it because they have the better unity than us.-AJR.
Yes. It is not only unity but also they have performing political God fathers. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Very nice posts from Ananda Padebettu on the subconscious mind and Roshan Pais on Meat eating and alcohol and health.
If Karna had promised Kunti not to use same arrow twice, couldn't he have used another arrow after Krishna ducked the chariot? -- Nagendra Shenoy
The snake arrow is supposed to have special enmity with Arjuna
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna#The_slaying_of_Karna |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
One of the important message we get in Mahabharata is the "Yaksha Prashne" and the answers given by Dharmaraja - D P Kumar.
D P Maam,
We had a lesson on this episode in Std. IX or X again if I am right.
When Yudhishthira sends his 4 brothers, one after the other to fetch water, they sideline the warning of the Yaksha at the lake, drink water and die. Later when Yudhishthira comes in search of them, the Yaksha asks the same 4 questions to him, which the Yaksha was supposed to ask his 4 brothers. The answers for the first 2 questions are MOTHER and FATHER (Mathru Devo Bhava, Pitru Devo Bhava. I do not remember the question by the way). These 2 are followed by 2 more questions i.e. what is it that is faster than breeze/wind and what is that is that cannot be seen but is more than anything else? The answers for these were MIND (From Bangalore, it can go to Pandeshwar, Dongerkery, Amnesia, Hotel Maharaja in no time) and OUR OWN THOUGHTS (can think anything from Teen Deviyaan to Teenage Deviyaan, naive Shenoy Maam?) respectively.
Like you told, a lot to learn indeed from these Q&As. Always respect the first two and always keep the second two in your control.
And yes.... the origin of the term 'Yaksha PrashNe' too happened because of this incident with the Pancha Pandavas. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Dear Judithbai,
Your messge is indeed great and easy to understand. The begging nuisance is not local but it is imported from some of the neighboring states where this is become a great profession handled by scroupless scoundrles behind the screen.
In the state of Andhra, in most of the towns and cities, there is what is called Weekly Shandie Day....and on this thousands of beggars in all shapes and sizes swarm into the particular town visit each and every shop and houses. And their calculation is brilliant....even if all the 5-600 shops give each of them 5 paise each (in olden days in 70s), they can still earn 25 to 30 rupees per day (now it may be in hundreds), with minimum expectation being 50 paise coins.
I would suggest you read one of the greatest and moving article on the subject in Mangalorean.Com by SANA BRITTO (Please check archives). |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 2, 2009 |
Nagendra Shenoy,
One of the important message we get in Mahabharata is the "Yaksha Prashne" and the answers given by Dharmaraja. Have you come across them? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
another Roshan Pais from India giving digs at other persons
Common problem here. However, we know you by your usual style. Abdul Kadir's leg spin bowling action had its own style. No one else could copy that. Even Muttiah Muralitharan has his unique style including the rolling up of his eye balls! Fidel Edwards has his throw ball action. Similarly Lasit Malinga has his action. Any imposter can feel happy that he has tried to trouble you. Even Mushtaq feom UAE will know the difference. By the way are you on vacation Mushtaq Bhai? Aaj kal bahut chup chaap hai aap. Kya baat hai? Gulf mein baat karna mana hai kya? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
I feel like Abhimanyu now. Got into Chakravyuha but not finding way out (answers).-Nagendra maam
Hope you won't sing like Ambareesh in Chakravyuha 'Chali chali taalenu ee chaliya aha'. Remember that song Nagendra maam? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
couldn't he have used another arrow after Krishna ducked the chariot?
-Nagendra maam
He could have and he did. But Arjuna had problem only with the particular arrow from which he had to duck. All other arrows were nothing for him just the way most of the bowling is ordinary in front of Tendulkar. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
why is it still maintained that Karna was born to a virgin?-Nagendra maam asking for the forbidden apple!
You may call her Virgin Kunti from now on Nagendra maam. I have no objection.;) |
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| Ananda Padebettu. Mumbai, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
It means, conscious mind reacts to the cause and originator but the subconscious reacts to the result and effect-N.S.Shenoy.
Subconscious mind is the most powerful tool in human beings. The subconscious mind reminds human beings that the God is within us and we are also part of ‘Pancha Bhootas’. It will be awaken 24 x 7 whether you are dreaming, or taking a sound sleep or active in the day time. It is the feeling that you have in you back of mind.
How you feel in a day? If you feel great, your subconscious mind would be having feeling of happiness. Even when the things go good with you, if your subconscious mind is not so excited, you may feel the day to be average. Depression is the slump of subconscious mind that could lead to self destruction stage among human beings.
We create our own surroundings with our own feelings. In a book called ‘The Secret’ activity of subconscious mind and the ‘Law of Attractions’ are explained very clearly. It is always advised to have good feeling in our mind so that those feelings attract better things.
I remember my Grandpa saying, there are ‘Astu Devatas’ around you. If you speak well they would bless with ‘Astu’ to attract good for you and if you speak bad, they would bless with ‘Astu’ to attract bad for you. After reading the book, I realized how cleverly our older generation passed on this supreme knowledge to their next generation. It is an amazing feeling just because, books related to such things are being published now and they are getting popular too.
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Which car are you using? Mr. Anand from Saudi Arabia will be full of questions to knowif it will be Maruti 800.-Rajesh Shetty, NZ.
Ha..ha..LOL.. Very humorous
Rajesh this is a secret & can't be divulged in this forum. Why? You may ask. I am scared if people start asking me LIFT to Lokhandwala from CSI Airport, I can’t say NO. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Maybe after Ananda Padebettu completes his 'test drive/s', he could advise us better.-Chris Rego.
Ha..ha..for sure.
It will be a privilege if an EYTian like you too, join me in the drive (if not test drive). |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jul 1, 2009 |
alfie unca rakhi will lk only at ur bank balance da. she dont care how old u r. all da best. - Dixon, India.
If that is the case, then I have no chance at all!!! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
You mean extra uterine pregnancy? The ear is plain symbolic Sir - Shenoy.
I haven't come across this so far but since you appear to have read Mahabharat better than me, I will take it as true.
But even if that is the case, why is it still maintained that Karna was born to a virgin? Let me ask you straight. Did Kunti have sex with the Surya deity? Atleast from what I vaguely remember from a Kannada serial of Karna (Kalikarna used to be telecasted in DD-9 at 7 PM in mid 90s with the title song "KarNa-na saahasa karNa-na kathana, navarasa bharita-vu eetana jeevana...."), it is only the deity appearing in front of her after she chants the verses and giving her Karna.
One more thing which I missed out in my yesterdays post is, if Karna had promised Kunti not to use same arrow twice, couldn't he have used another arrow after Krishna ducked the chariot?
Wow.... I feel like Abhimanyu now. Got into Chakravyuha but not finding way out (answers). |
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| suman, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
| Saameer, have you read Sachar Report? In which pages do the report say that muslims are in jails without case? |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
I think you missed the c in Amarnath Bantwals post.
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It is a typo in the earlier part of my post, Mr. Shetty. After all, I am also a victim of bad typing skills! :D
If you go through the full post, you will notice that it is indeed Acquitted that I found in the web dictionary. |
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| Gopinath K, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Nelson Lewis, thanks for drawing our attention to new usages. I respect your using new words in your writings (may be few words exempted for they appear bad to use). Now, coming to the latest subject:
Your original sentence was:
In the past, I have participated for considerable number of years in quiz contests and acquitted myself quite well.
You clarify later as follows:
To the best of my knowledge the words have to be 'acquit" or "acuitted" and I wonder if there are words "aquit" or "aquitted".
As “acquit” does not suit the context, I request you to give the final verdict with the exact word you meant as "acuity" is a noun.
Please remember, this is not meant to point out any mistake. We are bound to make typo mistakes. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
did Ashok Mandanna win the Council Election that time?-Mr Kudpi
Yes. He got 20 votes. Mr Crasta got 16. If I remember right Mr Vivian D Souza [was he D Souza/] got 4 votes. Vivian contested to create confusion. It seems he was the classmate of Mr Crasta. He had no chance of winning that time. He did not even canvass wholeheartedly. It was obvious that he was planted there by one of the candidates to spoil the chances of the other. A straight fight perhaps would have led to a tie and toss. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Hope Iraq becomes a model democracy in the middle East
-MR KUDPI QUOTING pd--------------------------------------
He is expecting too much. Can you change the character of a cobra? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
what has made you to come to this conclusion Shenoy maam?
-Ananad P
That is only my impression. I am impressed by his honest approach but not so much by his inability to take appropriate decisions when called for. That is unbecoming of a king. He did not have to keep on gambling till he loses all the brothers including himself. He then goes on to gamble Draupadi. That is after losing himself. This is exactly the point Draupadi makes when being asked to come to the sabhe. Yudhishtira was an obsessive compulsove gambler. I believe Stitaprajna is far from that. Unless of course you wish to say that his 'Stitaprajna' state included single minded devotion to his gambling pursuits.
PS: These days, Yudhishtira would have invested in Sensex.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Karna is believed to have born from Kunti's ears -Nagendra maam
You mean extra uterine pregnancy? The ear is plain symbolic Sir.
I do not wish to rake up fresh controversy about children being born of unfertilised eggs. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jul 1, 2009 |
If I am not mistaken when finished his tenth class (Not completed) he was almost 21 years. Lucky guy to have maximum classmates!!!..... Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE
Hoorrah Alfred Saab,
Talking about college days…., I too remember I had a classmate in the college and some of our lecturers were his good old classmates in the High School earlier. He was well known as James Bond the man with the golden (sorry, plastic water ) gun….!!!
Somewhere in the corner of my heart I think may be we are talking about the same genious. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Any takers from EYT. I am perhaps too old and have objections as well! - Alfred
Just for a sec, let us drop that 'perhaps too old', assume that your bitter half didn't have any 'objections' and was prepared to give you a NOC to that effect. In that case, would you have made your pitch? Just asking, mate. |
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| dixon, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
| alfie unca rakhi will lk only at ur bank balance da. she dont care how old u r. all da best. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jul 1, 2009 |
| To the best of my knowledge the words have to be 'acquit" or "acuitted" and I wonder if there are words "aquit" or "aquitted". |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Great engineering marvel indeed. That will take away lots of congestion or divert it at least. - Shenoy
Sure, it is an engineering marvel. However, in terms of cost and time overruns, it is a disaster!
The project was delayed by almost 4 years and at 1,634 crores, was more than double the initial budget!
In comparison, the 7.7-km-long sea bridge between Denmark and Sweden was completed in four years. Ditto for China's 35.6 km Hangzhou Bay Bridge. The Bang Na Expressway in Thailand, though it doesn't cross a body of water for most of its length, was completed in just two years. Also, people have already questioned the feasibility of this project as the question of traffic dispersal at both ends of the bridge haven't been addressed adequately. - Source: TOI
Maybe after Ananda Padebettu completes his 'test drive/s', he could advise us better. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Waw........ Mangalore Police department has done very good job! its just Because "Hindu was killed" there were many murder cases why they can't find it out... -Imthiyaz.
Why some people are hell bent on giving communal colour to everything? This is senseless. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Yudhishtira was not a stithaprajna in my opinion. He was an honest but weak King.- Shenoy maam.
I think you have a point. However, I feel Sthipragya need not be a strong king. Can you elaborate, what has made you to come to this conclusion Shenoy maam?
Looks interesting. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
"Was it right to lower the chariot of Arjuna by Krishna when Karna aimed Arjuna's head?"-Nagendra Shenoy on the role of Krishna in Mahabharata.
Just am interfering in a valid point raised by you to friends on a pertinent question.
The dharma and duty of a "Sarathi" is to guide the warrior and safely manage the Rath. Krishna did what is expected of him as a charioteer.
In Mahabharata, each character and role gives something to chew about on, duties, respect, planning, war with different astras, moral and immoral fronts etc.
It is not the whole epic that is important to study, but the individuals, their past (poorva janma) their character, vows, principles etc in latter life. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Congress party leaders need to grow up and stop naming everything after Rajiv Gandhi!! - R Pai.
Pai Maam,
"Ati vinayam, dhoortha lakshaNam" |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
he was a product of pre marital sex with the Sun God - Shenoy Maam's typo error in Karna's birth certificate :-))
Swing and a miss by Shenoy Maam. Karna was not born out of pre-marital sex. If that is so, how can one say that he was born to a virgin?
Karna is born because of his mother's eagerness to test the 'Var' blessed to her by Durvasa Muni. Karna is believed to have born from Kunti's ears and that is another way to believe that he was not born out of pre-marital sex. 'Karna' means ears, 'Karna KunDala' means 'Kaanon mein pehnewaali baali'.
We had a lesson in Hindi in Std IX or X that the dice used by Shakuni was made up of his father's bones who died because of the Pandavas. Any information on this Shenoy Maam? |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Being a 'Sthita pragya' you could have advised the new comers also regarding the same."-Ananda Padebettu thinks me to have claimed as being Sthitha prajnya.
Dear Ananda, if I have done that mistake unknowingly, please pardon me. Me too eat salt and chillies.
Thanks for expressing your version of Sthitha prajnya.
To Shenoymam, I wanted to write what I gathered from a swamiji in one of the satsangs that it is a state of mind with the absence of conscious mind. It works like in a subconscious state.
The swamiji gave an example for the same.
When you are conscious, if a mosquito sits on your body and bites, your hands move first to kill it. Thereafter, scratch the area. When you are in a sleeping condition, you only scratch the area. You will not attempt to kill it.
It means, conscious mind reacts to the cause and originator but the subconscious reacts to the result and effect. |
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| Rajesh Shetty, New Zealand |
Jul 1, 2009 |
Aquitted = To conduct (oneself) in a specified manner: acquitted herself well during the interview.
Mr. Shenoy - I think you missed the c in Amarnath Bantwals post. There is a difference between acquitted & aquitted.
Thanks |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 30, 2009 |
| I have seen the topic of classmates discussed now a days. During my school days we had a guy who is the classmate of almost all the students of the school because he never passed a class in a year. If I am not mistaken when finished his tenth class (Not completed) he was almost 21 years. Lucky guy to have maximum classmates!!! |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Irfan Pathan apparently is getting married. The lucky girl is from Canberra. She is Shivangi, daughter of Indian High Commissioner. Yusuf Pathan is the senior and Irfan will have to wait for some time before he can get married.
PS: It is not true that Irfan has given 1 year ultimatum to Yusuf.
PPS: It is also not true that Irfan is busy looking for a suitable partner for Yusuf so that he can get early green signal. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Hope Iraq becomes a model democracy in the middle East
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If not, people of Iraq will become Democrazy! |
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| Rajesh Shetty, New Zealand |
Jun 30, 2009 |
I am planning to drive the distance at least twice (up & down). I am sure it would be altogether a different experience-Ananda
Which car are you using? Mr. Anand from Saudi Arabia will be full of questions to knowif it will be Maruti 800.
Please inform us. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Of course I can not divulge who got my vote
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Shenoy maam, did Ashok Mandanna win the Council Election that time? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
He was just asking, who stands for the truth better? Pandavas or Kauravas?-Anand P
Just like who is bettr, BJP or Cong I ?
Yaaru hitavaru ninage evaralli? Bheesham loves Pandavas but is loyal to the Kauravas as he was working for them. 'UPPINA RUNAKKAGI', HE HAS TO TOLERATE THE DRAUPADI vastrapaharana. Yudhishtira was a truthful but simple guy who was duped by Shakuni who compelled him to gamble and throw the dice where he lost everything.Yudhishtira was not a stithaprajna in my opinion. He was an honest but weak King.
Coming to Karnavasana, it is a sad story where Kunti mata disowns him when he was a baby as he was a product of pre marital sex with the Sun God.She goes to the same Karna and asks for favour.Karna gives the assurance that he will not use the same arrow twice. [THOTTA baana punaha thoduvudilla] That is where Lord Krishna saves him by that chariot trick. [Is it Nagastra?]It is wasted in the process.Obviously he would not use it again as per his promise. He was known for his promises and charity. [DAANA SHOORA KARNA]
You feel sorry for Karnawho does not get the mother's love or even recognition. The same mother sacrifices him to save another child.
Mahabharat and Ramayan are two great epics of our country. Each time we read it, we get a new meaning.
PS: I heard Mr Nagaraj Shetty is reading Moily Ramayana these days.:) |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
I am not rattling my sword in this forum
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You made my day, Anand! ;) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Gandhiji asked people to respect them calling Harijana (Gods People). Now they don't want to be called so. If you call anyone as Harijana, next day you will be in Jail - Robin.
I had posted this many days back and would like to repeat the same "We fight to call ourselves as backward" (Words of a great man of course)
Anyways, any idea why is Gandhiji still not a 'Bharat Ratna' when sundry garbages aka politicians are considered one? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
You can recall similar incidence in Ramayana, where Rama violated Yuddha Dharma to finish off Monkey king ‘Vali’ - Ananda Padebettu.
Ananda,
2 Ram Navamis back, D P Maam too had raised a similar doubt. I did not have a satisfactory answer to his query. He later went to Mulki Temple and had a satisfying meal on Ram Navami day :-))
Vali is believed to have trodden the path of wrong doings (capture kingdom from Sugreeva and his wife as well) and hence Ram had to get into a spat with Vali, a result of a deal between himself and Sugreeva (To help him regain Sita from Lanka. It seems Sita Mata is the first Indian to go abroad. In fact she could make it due to the unlawful human trafficking by Ravana).
Anyways.... though they were Supreme, they were human beings too (in the Avataar) and like all human beings, they too had birth and death (though not natural birth as seen in case of Krishna, Ram [and Karna]) childhood, youth, love life etc and hence they too had to do a few mistakes which makes a complete human being. However, this is my own formed theory to those questions. Do not go by it.
D P Maam should be able to tell us more about those doubts.
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Shenoy Maam,
Fortunately, Karna did not YORK Arjuna like in 'Modern Day Cricket' during the slog overs (Karna-Arjuna kaaLaga was in later part of the 18 day war right?) but only gave him CHIN MUSIC (or 'Mastak Sangeeth' to be particular) We are not too sure of Krishna's wheelie skills unlike his 'Ducking skills' which we have witnessed via B R Chopra. So if that went awry, then Arjuna would have missed out on his oath and we would have missed this great teaching.
Siva, you have anything to add to this discussion? |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Iraq is celebrating "National Sovereignty Day," Iraqis are celebrating their freedom. I agree that it was an occupation, but America has lost over 4000 sons and daughters in liberating Iraq and sowing the seed of Democracy. I hope Iraqis realize the sacrifice of these great American Men and women and thank them.
Hope Iraq becomes a model democracy in the middle East. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Acquitted ??? Did you mean acquainted ? - Amar to Nelson Lewis
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Amar,
I guess Nelson is right in using that word. I found this on googling -
Aquitted = To conduct (oneself) in a specified manner: acquitted herself well during the interview.
Source: The Free Dictionary by Farlex
Link: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/acquitted |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Was it right to lower the chariot of Arjuna by Krishna when Karna aimed Arjuna's head?-Nagendra Shenoy in his usual probing interest.
Nagendra this is a valid question for all time. You know what, when you start thinking about any issue you will get more questions to find out as to why it is like this or like that? Other wise you come to a conclusion and stop your probing brain by lots of prejudices in mind which can be dangerous to self.
Even I am into probing the answer & still not satisfied with what I know. I think veteran Shenoy maam or DP uncle can give more elaborated answer to this question.
You can recall similar incidence in Ramayana, where Rama violated Yuddha Dharma to finish off Monkey king ‘Vali’.
I have heard great ‘Sheni Goplakrishna Bhat’ defending act of Rama and Krishna in the respective incidences.
He was just asking, who stands for the truth better? Pandavas or Kauravas? If you believe Kauravas stand for truth and justice, then what Krishna did was utterly wrong. Further if you feel Pandavas stood for truth and justice, you must believe, what Krishna did was perfect. You know well that Karna sided with Kauravas in the battle of Kurukshetra.
I feel you got your answer by now.
PS: The above clarifications are given not to chase out anyone from this forum, but to tell what I have understood. People may differ from what I believe and they are free to do so. I am not rattling my sword in this forum. (;-D) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Was it right to lower the chariot of Arjuna by Krishna when Karna aimed Arjuna's head?-Nagendra maam
In modern day cricket, one ducks when a bouncer is bowled. Otherwise the helmet + or - the head will go flying.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
if you were the classmate of Richard Crasta -Dony baab
Actually Mr Crasta was my senior. I had just joined St Aloysius when he was fighting his elections. I was elected as class rep that year. I had the pleasure of voting that year. Of course I can not divulge who got my vote.:) |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
I for one feel that newcomers also be allowed to express their views. We may disagree between views. We have seen few learned seniors in this forum loosen their stand sometime later. -NSS.
Dear NSS,
No one is stopping others from expressing views. And it is impossible to do so in this forum. This is a fantastic forum where people are given more than 100% right to have their sayings. However, be it a new horse or old fox, issues should stick to debating on something constructive as PD rightly pointed out. Calling someone with prejudices is not a right thing. Being a 'Sthita pragya' you could have advised the new comers also regarding the same. However, I was sad to see you have been one-sided. I think, 'Sthita Pragya' implies the state of mind that is being impartial with due diligence. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jun 30, 2009 |
“I was also a class representative during my PUC days, I year to be exact”……Shenoy, India
Looks like Mangalorean.com is indeed helping reunion of old friends……
Shenoymaam, if you were the classmate of Richard Crasta (who later authored the Indian best seller....the animated version of KAMASUTRA), then you also perhaps remember some of your other colleagues notably Eric Ozario the ex-President of Karnataka Konkany Sahitya Academy, noted creator of the legendary “Mand Sobhan” troupe among others. If I am not mistaken Mr. Winston Fernandes was the College President followed subsequently by the all-time genious B.Com student Elvin Colaco who secured the 1st rank in each of all the subjects. We also had in the students council Mr. Manavendranath Shetty and Cletus D’Souza who became Professors in Manasa Gangothri in Mysore....and the unforgettable
Mr. Bagwandas….the superfast opening bowler of the college cricket team and also a very popular entertainer…..
Being one year senior to you, some of my own classmates were Alfie D’Souza (featured a few months back on this portal) the CEO in China of Australian based Shell Petroleum, Fr. Eugene Lobo the current Principal, Allan Pereira the (ex-GM of Syndicate Bank and) current MD of the Maharashtra State Coop Bank among others. Now does this remind you of a song “Bimbo” sung by one of our colleagues in the Students Council on special occasions.
I bet its time to sing "Viva la Campanie"
"Now wider and wider our circle expands
We sing to our comrades in far away lands.
Cho: Viva la, viva la, viva l'amour
Viva la, viva la, viva l'amour
Viva l'amour, viva l'amour,
Viva la compagnie"
Mangalorean.Com has not only proved as a leading portal uniting Mangaloreans in a true Mangalorean Spirit...but now it is also serving as a major catalyst for Reunion of Old (long-lost….????) Friends!!!! Thank you M.Com. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Chill out ... PD
Hey Dinauseaum
You forgot the cold beer ...
Tried the typo method so popular with EYT these days, but as hard as I did, I could not type one "e" in front of the other "e"
As the Italians say, have a biro instead! |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
It's AP and your habit driving people out of this forum with harsh writing on them.-Anand.
Do you think that we have taken oath to drive people out of this forum? What is that we are going to gain? Nothing. We debate on issues not on people. Myself differ with Nelson and I have shown it in the forum.
I think if you do not have issues you become personal. Please debate on issues but not on persons. |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Shenoymam,
You know very well that I do not have an answer for your point "How many stitaprajnas have you come across N S Shenoy maam?"
I for one feel that newcomers also be allowed to express their views. We may disagree between views. We have seen few learned seniors in this forum loosen their stand sometime later. People discuss certain issues as they find "now and here". The views have to get clearer and clearer with more and more of our involvment and learning. Rigidity and sticking to same gun, does not make "free thinking".
Sorry for going at length with a learned person like you.
Let ME try to restrain from using bad words and character assasination which is not a healthy practice.The war is to be stopped before sunset (Yudh-dharm). Next day, it will be a new bright day. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
| Dilip Kumar had inspired Manoj Kumar aka Mr. Bharath as well. In one of the movies, DKs name was Manoj Kumar and inspired by that role, Mr. XYZ used Manoj Kumar as his name in the industry. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Shenoy Maam/Ananda/NSS Maam,
Why did Krishna order Arjuna to shoot Karna when the wheels of his chariot were stuck in soil and as per morality one cannot be attacked when he is without any weapon or helpless?
Was it right to lower the chariot of Arjuna by Krishna when Karna aimed Arjuna's head? |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jun 30, 2009 |
Hey EYTians you guys need to knock it off, these personal attacks, correcting typos, is reaching the point of Ad nauseaum.
If you are interested in discussing topics and gaining some knowledge through arguments and counter arguments be here. If you come with your big ego trying to win every battle on EYT it is impossible. EYTans will crush your ego within minutes, they might even let you win some battlesbut they will win the war.
Chill out |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jun 30, 2009 |
He must be put on an apron and must sweep the streets of Newyork, and sleep on the roadside until his last breath -A. S. MAthew
He could not become the man he became unless he appealed to the innate greed which was lurking in every human being. Do not think that he sprang up overnight and became the pied piper who led thousands in to their doomsday. In India, we had our own Harshad Mehta, Ketan Parkhs and Agarwal of Home Trade, who quickly somehow fade into oblivion under the shadow of new and rising stars.Even ants will try and taste the honey out of money (if you keep one dollar bill).
Anyway .. who cares ..
I am not here to earn the name
I am not here to gain the fame
I am here to play the game.
In the final analysis, it is OK if you do not recover your money, at least if you can recover from the shock.
CYA ... |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
How many stitaprajnas have you come across N S Shenoy maam?-Shenoy maam.
Shenoy maam, I totally agree with you. These words (Sthita Prgya) are to decorate the sentences.
I think Yudhistira was the only 'Sthita Pragya' in the world. It was not even Krishna.
Do you remember, Krishna got angry with Karna and broke his promise and raised 'Chakra' during decisive Kurukshetra war. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
You respect people, be it Mr. Shenoy, Mr. Nagendra Shenoy, Mr. K.R. Shenoy, Mr. Donny Lobo, Mr. Chris Rego, Mr. R. Pai and many others and they will respect you.-Nelson Lewis.
Nelson,
You can guide the people those who have self respect. But not to others. I had been blogging in this site for so long. Further, I too had difference of opinions with many of them. It was expressed in writings.
The people mentioned above are of class. They have thorough knowledge on what they speak and what they learn. They debate on the issues with proper evidences not by twisty tongues. |
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| Amarnath Bantwal, Australia |
Jun 29, 2009 |
In the past, I have participated for considerable number of years in quiz contests and acquitted myself quite well - Nelson Lewis.
Acquitted ??? Did you mean acquainted ?
Must be a typo I presume.
In the same breath you could have ignored a Neslon vs a Nelson instead of making such a hue and cry about it. What say mate?
Keep writing, you are a treasure trove of knowledge and experience. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Please read Gods own party instead of Gods only party in my previous post.
Thank you |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
You may react to the subject - N S Shenoy
Stithaprajnsya kaa bhasha, kim kurvanti Keshava is what Arjuna asked Lord Krishna.How many stitaprajnas have you come across N S Shenoy maam? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
No religion is perfect. No man is perfect.
-K Rasheed UAE
Beautiful dialogue Rasheed Bhai.Agreed. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
You can enjoy it with Teen Deviyaan :-))-Nagendra maam
Nahin bhai.Teen devian aap hi ko mubarak ho.Aap hein, teen devian hein, beech mein hamein kya kaam? Shiva poojeyelli karidiye? |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
who is like a Guru to all in this forum
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Dony Bab,
Thanks for your good words. I am not as great as you might think, or have described here!
I am an ordinary Indian Citizen expressing my thoughts here, for it's a free and open forum!
We should avoid animosity and bad language. That's one of my basic ideology, inspired by Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee, who always stood to this principle in the Parliament, whether he was in ruling side or opposition!
I try to balance between my educated mind and Atalji's golden words many a times, but some people intentionally or provocated by others' thoughts try to bring an element of unpleasantness with bad language.
Any good forum like this one should be free from personal attacks and bad language.
It is within the perverted minds, that any expression is distorted to derive cheap thrills and satiate self, or try to corrupt other unassuming minds! Mostly such attempts happen when religious animosities are built within, leading to pent-up anger and restlessness!
I have seen enough of such emotional outbreaks, Dony baab. I humbly request you not to drag this issue further and embarass our ignorant friend Mr. Pinto!
Give him a chance to study life at an angle that you and I have seen! :) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
In a nutshell, I have conveyed you the message-Nelson Lewis
Like poles repel, unlike poles attract.:) |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Mr. Anand,
I do not claim to be a knowledgeable person, but that does not mean, that I copy from other websites, as you have accused me of. I need not do all those things. You respect people, be it Mr. Shenoy, Mr. Nagendra Shenoy, Mr. K.R. Shenoy, Mr. Donny Lobo, Mr. Chris Rego, Mr. R. Pai and many others and they will respect you. However, if you are going to make unsubstantiated accusations, then you will face music.
However, all said and done, even to copy from websites, you need to be intelligent and that is not a domain of a naive person. Please get it right.
For your kind information, I read a lot, intermingle with knowledgeable people (and not morons), listen and pay attention to educational stuff, devour information of interest from electronic media and print media, etc.
In the past, I have participated for considerable number of years in quiz contests and acquitted myself quite well,
Probably, I believe you are referring to various media sites for gathering information and therefore trying to paint other readers with the same paint brush. How sad, my friend? |
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| Adarsh, UAE |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Vinay,
Completely agree with your perspective. Vartha Bharati is a great newspaper and I think it deserves all the credit for it. People should support this newspaper, instead of Udayavani which is famous for filtering news according to its wish and will. |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Don't waste your time with school children Mr Kudpi. - Shenoy Maam
These Babies will stop crying thereafter "as they grow bigger" - Dony Baab
At least if the posts had some sense, I'd have educated them.- Kudpi Rajnikanth Shenoy.
Are you all joining to drive new entrants to EYT? school children, babies, least sense... whats this?
Ye baat achi nahi bhayiyo.
Either we befriend them or close our eyes. Comments of the above sort on person, not of good taste.
Please, dear senior fellow EYTians, try not to insult or injure a person. You may react to the subject if you feel like.
Thanks in anticipation. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Mr. Anand,
For your kind information, I am not a journalist and would not, under any circumstances, claim to be somebody, when I am not educated or trained for it. For the records, you have dubbed me so.
As regards your friend or the person whom you are defending, Mr. Ashraf, has criticised Christians in Australia when, for all one knows, everyone of them may not be of that faith or but other faiths also. Mr. Ashraf had no right to brand all Christians as bad, for the fault of few. So what is racist if I said that he is living in Australia, a country where majority of the population is Christians and the very fact that he is living, in spite of all the problems means that he is better off there, then from where he originated or came from.
Will any of the writers comment me as rascist for these or other comments I have made over the years on this or other webs?
Sometime back, I had commented that Australians are rascist, when some disgruntled, rowdy elements attacked mostly hapless Indian students and taxi drivers and I also criticised Australians (of Indian origin) behaving like whites by either criticising the guests who had come to their country for further studies or standing as mute spectators. Even there, I have not criticised Christians, Hindus, Muslims or anyone.
Therefore, if you do not see eye-to-eye with people that does not mean you should jump to conclusions. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Political parties and their symbols and what they represent:-
CONG (I) - HAND - They shake your hand before and shake their fist after( elections ..?)
BJP: LOTUS - Its LOTUS blossoms only in the pond of muddied water( have you heard of the phrase, fishing in the troubled waters). Anyway, this is God's only party; who knows if God is angry with the party or the electorate
CPM - Sickle and Hammer- Its sickle and hammer is totally rusted and hence has become very blunt( not useful for anyone anymore). Nobody can understand who are they trying to bury still using their hammer to fasten the nail on the coffin. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
D P Maam,
From a few melodies and singers that I have followed of your era, I guess R D Burman was a trend setter to the 'dikchik dikchik' songs. Kishore Kumar, Mohd. Rafi, Mukesh were all in the same boat according to me, except for the occasional 'yodeling' by Kishore Da. Was R D Burman a bit late to the industry comapred to the other 3?
Even his dad Sachin Dev Burman was a singer and Ramesh Tendulkar was a fan of S D Burman and hence named his son Sachin.
Times (Television for Information Music Entertainment & Sports) Now news channel is more inclined towards the yesteryear hits and greats. Very often they come with a programme titled "Total Recall of Indian Cinema - 70s Common man's movies" where they show the making and talks with those associated with the movies of that decade. They also speak much about Hrishikesh Mukherjee. After watching that programme for a couple of times, I had watched movies like Rajanigandha, Khoobsurat, Chupke Chupke, Angoor, Bawarchi and the likes :-)
Do watch that programme, it comes very often on Times Now specially on Sunday noons :-) |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 29, 2009 |
AS far as I am having a car, I need not tell you that what I have and what I don't have.
AP
If I am Bavi Kappe, you are Bavi Kuppe.
Now I understand you have no Car. But don’t question others at the same time about cars.
Of course I drink water when I thirsty, not Dharavi daru at Aunty shop. I think that’s your last resort.
I need not to consult you for anything for the mistakes what I am doing.
Arey AP, I am staying in Lokhandwal Complex not in Lohar Chawl or Lower Parel. I know Mumbai better. I will write in forum when I come to Mumbai, meet me without any hesitation.
Best of Luck. |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 29, 2009 |
I am "Nelson" and not "Neslon". I hope you get it right in future.
Parbule Namaskara,
Whether you are Nelson or Neslon one and the same, its a typoghraphical error that is common in this forum. No commands for this, you get my point.
You and AP are two faces of one coin accusing others and claiming superiority over writers of this forum that is what I noticed.
Since you doubted on me a Muslim, it clearly indicates yours double standard and suspicion on others. As people appreciate you on your knowledge is mere guess, what you copy from the various websites not of your own.
What is your problem if I talk on side with Muslims. It's AP and your habit driving people out of this forum with harsh writing on them.
Webmaster of Mangalorean.com is unique, I appreciate him for his unbiased on publishing. You both took the advantage of this.
All the best Parbule. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Waise hum youtube dekhenge zaroor. Kum se kum Himesh Reshmyya uruf Nagendra maam ka darshan toh hoga hi - Shenoy.
Ohhhhhh Huzoooooooor,
Youtube is not in good terms with me for almost a week now. Once our impasse gets relaxed, I will certainly upload and share it. You can enjoy it with Teen Deviyaan :-)) |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Mr. Alfred Rebello,
You have to understand that whether it is the DGP or a lowly constable, they all work for their political masters or their bosses.
If they do that, then they make career advancements and do not be carried away by the medals that they get, be it President's medal, Police Medal or any other medal. The more the medals they get, they more closer they are to be political bosses. Naturally, IPS officers with integrity, honesty and will to do good to the people have left their jobs midway.
Police, especially the senior IPS officials, ensure that their political masters are taken care of and kept happy. Naturally, they make pots of money by way of bribes, corruption, etc. and the politicians turn a blind eye to that, simply because they are corrupt too.
In a nutshell, I have conveyed you the message. |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Dear Mr.Praveen Pinto,…..in case you are offended with my expressions, my apologies., but my message was indeed directed at the other gentleman referred to in that post who has been specifically attacking members of many other religious communities…….
However what compelled me to add your name alongside his is, your own following childish remarks addressed to Mr.KRS, which were certainly in bad taste as far as I am concerned. Mr.KRS is not only one of the seniormost members of the forum but like Mr.Shenoy, Mr.Nelson and D.P.Kumar is one of the most respected non-political fair-minded members of the forum.
"KRS, in case you suffer from amnesia here goes your earlier post…… Your over reaction makes me wonder if you are being funded by the BJP."…Praveen Pinto dated 26th June 2009-06-29"
In this forum, thanks to the Editor, we freely argue, agree, …. or agree to disagree with each other's views but certainly not pass innuendos against any particular individual. Especially Mr.KRS who is like a Guru to all in this forum, and who has never ever made any controversial remark all these years against anyone or any religion or religious matters whatsoever in any of his posts and I advise you to kindly apologise and withdraw the innuendoes you passed against his respected person. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 29, 2009 |
Firstly, you have got name name wrong. I am "Nelson" and not "Neslon". I hope you get it right in future.
Secondly, I have not involved in your battle of wits with Mr. Ananda P. or read your posts or comments.
Thirdly, I respect Mr. Ananda P. (and other writers in this forum) for their phenomenal knowledge and they do not write, just for the sake of writing, but have something substantial to contribute and words of wisdom to share. Does my friendship with Mr. Ananda P. affect you in any way? Please let me know, so that we can do something about it. For your information, I know Mr. Ananda P. personally and have shared hours with him talking on various topics under the sum. Besides, he is a professional and not just a jerk or any Tom, Dick and Harry.
Fourthly, I do not consider myself as a "good", "bad" or "ugly" blogger". That is what you feel and I am fine with it. In fact, I do not consider myself as a blogger.
Fifthly, for your kind information and to dispel any misconceptions that you have, I am not at all a journalist and do not describe me as one. I have just a flair for writing.
Sixthly, I am least concerned what you (and your toadies think of me). It hardly matters. I have been recognised by people who know me personally or heard about me from their friends, who are really reliable and that is what matters. This is because, I do not know you or have heard of you from Adam's time and vice versa.
Seventhly, I am not a religious fanatic or have any religious leanings, etc. I have friends who are Muslims too. However, I believe in speaking my friend and do not view things through religious sunglasses. If that is what you feel about me, then something is wrong with you. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
They are far better than the TATA products in Saudi Arabia. Do you have at least Maruti 800 with you? Hows its performance?-Anand, Saudi Arabia.
I think your world doesn't stretch beyond KSA. If you use Chinese Tom **** & Harry materials in Saudi, it doesn't mean that they are better than everything else. You speak like 'Bavi Kappe'.
No one needs to shower bundle of praises to me. Nelson and myself differed on many topics.
AS far as I am having a car, I need not tell you that what I have and what I don't have. If you think owning a car is the only way of happiness then 'Hats off to you', I am sure if you live in KSA, you will drink water when you are thirsty but not Petrol I suppose. Be careful while staynig in KSA. If you commit a mistake unknowingly also you will find yourself in SOUP, but not in Misal pavs or Vada Pavs. (;-D)
About Mumbai Usal Pav or Misal Pavs, please let me know when you are coming to Mumbai, I can give you more information of better Usal Pavs available here. You are still in shell as far as Mumbai as Mumbai is concerned too, as you are just looking at only 2 areas for Misal Pavs. LOL |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 29, 2009 |
| MS Rao, before we blame centre for lacking railways in our state, we have to blame our state politicians be it congres or BJP as well as Road transport and Bus owners. They are the biggest culprits. If there is proper railway line how Road transporters, Bus owners survive and our state politicians benefit? Once when asked to Lalu the same question, he told first ask your own state politicians. Our own politicians as well as owners of Buses and other mode of road transporters do not help our state to come up. They want to help themselves. Why do they care if you & me suffer? They know how to bull us once in five years. If our state politicians really fought for it we would have best railway lines by now. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 29, 2009 |
On reforms in education systems, I have an interesting obervation:
Renuka failed in PUC though scored 410 in total. She lost in English with 20 marks.
http://www7.indiaresults.com/Karnataka/dpu09/rollresult.asp?rollno=151127
Geeta I class, yet only 35 in English
http://www7.indiaresults.com/Karnataka/dpu09/rollresult.asp?rollno=154294
Another Geeta failed due to less marks in English
http://www7.indiaresults.com/Karnataka/dpu09/rollresult.asp?rollno=155132
Shruthi failed due to less marks only in English
http://www7.indiaresults.com/Karnataka/dpu09/rollresult.asp?rollno=161215
Bhaskar got above 60 in all subjects but in English only 30
http://www7.indiaresults.com/Karnataka/dpu09/rollresult.asp?rollno=689789
Before standardising examination system for the whole country, groundwork for a period of a generation may be needed. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai, , UAE |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Does disowning your mother belittle you as well? Think about it. - Shenoy, India.
90% of the mothers, yes, we have to respect them for their sacrifices and love. But about 10% of the mothers who kill their husbands, children, cheating,. decoity etc. Dal me bhi kala ho saktha hai. |
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| Dr Raj Hegde, Australia |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Shenoy
I agree with you one hundred percent. |
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| Dr Raj Hegde, Australia |
Jun 28, 2009 |
| Left Front always oppose the right things. Who cares for them. Their opposition has no relavence now. |
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| Vinay, USA |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Recently I had been to India and I had the privilege of reading Kannada newspaper Vartha Baharathi. I had seen many posts before on EYT which suggested that Vartha Baharathi is rapidly becoming popular.
Now since I have the first hand account, I can say strongly say that I think Vartha Baharathi is one of the best Kannada newspapers I have ever seen.
Compared to Udayavani, which by default we all had past encounters with, Vartha Baharathi is superior on many accounts. It has the best layout, it has a best editorial and surprisingly it has more content.
Udayavani has recently become more like a mouth piece of RSS, by not providing truth about these radical Hindu organizations.
I would strongly encourage all the coastal, Mangalorean as well as other Kannada newspaper subscribers to try out Vartha Baharathi. A good newspaper is always one which brings out people's voice as well as the truth. The only disappointing point is that Vartha Baharathi does not update news on its website. It should improve on this aspect, other than that I can say that Vartha Baharathi is the emergence of a new era in the world Kannada news. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Mr. Anand,
Your accusations have no legs to stand upon. I am not a religious bigot, nor am I a religious fanatic, but a person with a secular bent of mind, a live and let live attitude and am very liberal in my views any day compared to you.
If you wish to criticise me, please go ahead, but do not criticise any other reader for the friendship that he has with me.
By the way, since you have dug up the religious issue, are you a muslim or hindu? Your posts make me wonder? |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Don't waste your time with school children Mr Kudpi. - Shenoy Maam
These Babies will stop crying thereafter"as they grow bigger" - Dony Baab
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At least if the posts had some sense, I'd have educated them. They are mostly intended to demean others on religious issues, for which I can't be a silent spectator!
Mr KRS, Dony Lobo, you may please point out the religious content to demean others in my post. I am only protesting your bullying the newcomers on this forum. I have asked you a question which remains unanswered,and you go on with your innuendo's. Prove me wrong and I will accept your words and promise you that I shall never show my face again. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
BURMAN:
Today it is Late R.D.Burman's birthday. I was opportuned by TimesNow with his musical hits of two decades.
R.D.Burman, was popularly known as 'Pancham Da'. His fans association celebrates every year on his birthday and his death anniversary and awards new singers and artistes on this occasion.
Today, they also portrayed S.D.Burman and Kisohor Kumar. How different were his compositions from each other! We have lost a great master of music at his early age of 55. If he was alive, he would have been 70. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
The question is why these multinational Companies opened thier assembly facilities in China when Chinese products are not good as per some bloggers here?
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Anand,
I don't totally discard Chinese products saying all their stuff is bad. Their cheaper goods like toys and games, batteries, calculators, watches and cosmetics have flooded the market and might have camouflaged better products in the deal!
One example is China made DVD players. Leading companies like Sony, Philips and Pioneer get their DVD players made in China.
My observation is that 4-5 years ago, Sony and Pioneer priced at over Rs. 6000/- had problems galore, playing DVDs. Some of the written media are not recognised by them, though their pricing was much higher than others. Philips priced at around Rs. 5000/- on the other hand used to be fairly good. The best player I saw was DVS, a Chinese brand that played all kinds of discs without any fuss! The pricing was much lower than leading brands....almost Rs.3000/-.
I remember one of the dealers telling me that DVS manufactures DVD players for most of the Companies, and any individual or Company with letter of intent(or MOU) and Import license who can place order for one container load of goods from China can get the product branded in their name...Example 'ANAND'.
Yet, the outer shell and the durability of Chinese goods are not upto the mark. To compromise in price, they have to use cheaper components!
I guess, there are persons with better knowledge and experience in this forum who can further enlighten us. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
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New Delhi, PTI:
Angry protests over shortage of power and water continued in the national capital for the fifth consecutive day on Sunday as several parts of the city went without electricity for 10-12 hours in searing heat.
The people of New Delhi vote based on the performance of the government. They are known to vote for the change if they are dissatisfied. The next elections are not close by. So Mrs Dixit still has time to correct the situation before people become unforgiving. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jun 28, 2009 |
| The posting is mine, the context is important to me. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
a Muslim dominated kingdom.
-Anand
It may be more accurate to say Muslim Kingdom than Muslim dominanted. Bahrain is known to be a peaceful country for a long time now. Nelson maam will have no problems there. It is his right to stay there and still express in this forum what he thinks is correct. He might have formed certain views based on his knowledge, attitude, beliefs and practices. Some of them may sound unacceptable to others. He has strong reservations on the issue of communists and the Chinese. That is his view. Lots of people have similar views. He has contempt against hindi movie stars. We have no problem with that either. I have not interpreted his views as anti muslim. He certainly does not have hatred for muslims. I am sure he will have several muslim friends both in India as well as Bahrain. It is impossible to assess another blogger thoroughly just based on his blogged expressions. Those who know the person from close quarters will know better. Tolerance is the watch word I suppose. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
'BiTTa baaNa, koTTa maatu' can never be taken back. Bandook se nikli hui goli or mooh se nikli hui boli....ek baar chooTti hai toh woh waapas nahin aati hai. Not so pleasant to hear but very true! :-))-Nagendra maam
Aap ustaad pedro nikle saab. Aap ka bhi jawaab nahin. Bade bhai toh bade bhai, chote bhai bhi subhanallah! Waise hum youtube dekhenge zaroor. Kum se kum Himesh Reshmyya uruf Nagendra maam ka darshan toh hoga hi. Suna hai Abu Dhabi mein teen deviyaan bhi iss video ka intezaar kar rahe hein. Kya aaj raat teekh saade dus baje nikalne waala hai ?:)[Panna bar se] |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Whether all who write here in this forum are better placed than Anand in Saudi Arabia.
AP,
You and your good friend Neslon(a bundle of praises from you) are average or fair bloggers in this forum that I can admit for a while.
You did asked me whether I have a Chinese Car? It is not necessary to own product for evaluation by an individual? They are far better than the TATA products in Saudi Arabia. Do you have at least Maruti 800 with you? Hows its performance?
let's forget about the Chinese products for a moment and asking you whether you have tasted the Usal Paav in Parel Area? |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 28, 2009 |
All I said was from my personal experience, and need not be true in all cases!
Kudpi Mam,
Most of your observation are truth.
The question is why these multinational Companies opened thier assembly facilities in China when Chinese products are not good as per some bloggers here? |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 28, 2009 |
If you are hating Christians as a whole, why are you staying in a country-Journalist Nelson to Ashraf.
Dear Journalist Nelson,
I was watching you blogs since long time, you too a paranoid hating muslims, inspite you staying Kingdom of Bahrain a Muslim dominated kingdom.
No double standard. Practice before you Preach to others. |
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| M S RAO, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
| With few days left for presentation of railway budget one is left wondering whether there will be any allocation to Karnataka in general & Mangalore in particular. The new Railway minister it appears is Minister for Railways(West Bengal). It is unfortunate that our elected representatives & Ministers in central Cabinet have not done anything for the state so far and they are not ashamed of it too. It is high time the public & other organisations wake up and come out with some inovative actions to force these persons in power to ACT/ FIGHT for the state. |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jun 28, 2009 |
"Ugrappa .... Yeddyurappa.. no difference. I think the voter is finally the biggest "Beppa" - Radha, USA
What about Bangarappa, Kagodu Thimmappa?
Voters have been biggest "Beppas" ever since 1947!! Congress has set the bar very high when it comes to the art of making voter a "Beppa"! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Once it goes out of bounds, then try small kick on the bottom:-) - D P Kumar.
Though I am standing on way of that bullet, I agree. Sometimes, kicks need to be given at the right place and heads have to roll :-) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
on 23/06/2009 at 10.00 a.m. to enquire about Mr. Kiran More's arrival, he surprised me by handing over the phone to Mr. Kiran More - Nelson Lewis
Kiran More will be remembered for his incidence with Javed Miandad in 1992 World Cup, though he was not involved much in it.
On 23.06.2009 you met Kiran More. Whom did I meet on 24.06.2009?? Was it Sachin?? Or Golden Star Ganesh?? Or could I have met my first love??? Che che... Ellaadru unTe??
It was a thundering and a firebrand personality (not L K Advani as well). To know who it is, do keep an eye on 'Captured Moments'. I am proud to have captured that personality in a very different attire from what that personality was known to be wearing. I managed to sneak in through to that personality's press interview and capture that as well. Will upload in Youtube and share it, it is worth listening! ;-)) ;-) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Kya ab bhi inn haaton mein jaan hai yaa waqt ke saath saath yeh bhi khokla ho gaya hai? - Shenoy.
Is it Shenoy Maam's dialogue or Thakur to Jai & Veeru in Sholay?? :D |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
Please don't put words in my mouth. I was talking in context of BJP's victory in Mangalore, in-spite of so much communal tension - Puttur Dinesh.
P D,
There is no need for me to put words back into your mouth. Have you seen Cauvery going back to Talakaveri?
Your context is of least significance here. 'BiTTa baaNa, koTTa maatu' can never be taken back. Bandook se nikli hui goli or mooh se nikli hui boli....ek baar chooTti hai toh woh waapas nahin aati hai. Not so pleasant to hear but very true! :-)) |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
"you have no right to ridicule my opinion."-Puttur Dinesh
It is routine with some to take on individuals and attempt on character than subject. You need to just ignore. Once it goes out of bounds, then try small kick on the bottom:-) |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 28, 2009 |
They told us tippu destroyed milagres church and constructed mosque on lighthouse hill - Ashraf Mohammed, Australia.
Ashraf, though I do not want to talk about past because I cannot change anything, but it is a fact that Tippu was against Christians. You may ask why, it is because christians follow a foreign religion forgetting it is only one's faith. It is the right of every individual to follow what he believes right. It is also a fact Tippu dsestroyed many churches but today we cannot live with that. If we do, then there is no peace even today. Yes, priests must have told only the history but I do not whether they mean anything. Also we keep blaming others then we are in the same generation of Tippu. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 28, 2009 |
"Hope you haven't taken it as Jack Russell or Jack Welch or Jack Trout! :-))"Nagendra clarifies.
OKay, agreed.
Thiruppur provides jackfruits in all seasons!
Lets have it with jack fruit or Union Jack:-)) |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 27, 2009 |
just ignore and zip it up. - Puttur Dinesh, USA.
That is all I am doing all these years. Now, I do not think you have the right to ask me, why?!!! |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 27, 2009 |
| Shenoymam, there is a lot of difference between LEFT FRONT and LEFT HAND. Left hand may be mischievious only in the wee hours. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
They are mostly intended to demean others on religious issues- Mr Kudpi
Ignore his crap Mr Kudpi. Praveen's pravinya is in passing silly ridiculous and pungent remarks which means nothing more than the water in the closet. At least the latter serves some useful purpose of cutting down the stench while the former intends to create it. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
because one day nobody knows who LEFT FRONT is. -Alfred Rebello
That will never happen in India. In India left hand has a distinct purpose at least in the wee hours of the day.:) |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
I want India to grow as one be with Congress leadership or BJP leadership but not with CPIM, which is nothing but a maoist.-Alfred Rebello
Don't worry Sir. Indians can make mistakes but they will never committ blunders of that proportion. So take it easy. It is Cong I FOR YEARS to come with BJP in the opposition. I have no problem with that situation. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Tippu did attack the churches. Even Ghazni Mohammad and other muslim kings attack churches or temples. So don't blame any religion for violence-Surendra Poojari
Any updates on this matter or are you stuck in the sands of time Mr Poojari? What about desecration and subsequent consecration activity last year? Did you forget it? A case of bad amnesia perhaps? |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
| I used to enjoy Shetty ice cream in the sixties and seventies. They used to sell it in many shops in Mangalore then. The carts used to be pushed by youngsters who used to sell it enthusiastically. There was a rumour that blotting paper was used but this was never substantiated. I have consumed it regardless. I wonder if they still manufacture Shetty ice cream in Mangalore or with the passage of time has it made way to other giants which we know too well.[Kya ab bhi inn haaton mein jaan hai yaa waqt ke saath saath yeh bhi khokla ho gaya hai?] |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
my marginal knowledge about PCs and Laptops!
-Mr Kudpi
Take a bow Maestro! You have come a long way. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
The very fact that you are in Australia, means you like the place better than your mother country, whichever it happens to be, be it Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc.-Nelson Lewis
I don't think the conclusion is rational or logical. Ashraf may be in Australia for a living. However it does not mean that he likes it better than his mother country. I am yet to come across any one who likes a foreign country better than their mother country. They may like the adopted country a lot but not necessarily more than the mother country. Ashraf despite his ill directed anger has the right to stay in Australi as long as he has a job there. Dr Haneef from Bangalore was also there but was deported later. It is another matter that he was found innocent. I must congratulate Dr Haneef for not returning to Australia. He did well to stay in India. Did he go to Muscat eventually?
I have a simple question for the readers of this forum. Does disowning your mother belittle you as well? Think about it. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Mr. Shenoy,
I agree with your comments and sentiments.
I think Michael Jackson has three children and with his death, they will go through a tough time and a bad patch.
May Almighty God take care, protect and guide them during these real hard times.
Regards,
Nelson Lewis |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Mr. Ashraf Mohammed,
Why are you behaving like a religious fanatic and acting paranoid?
If you are hating Christians as a whole, why are you staying in a country, Australia, that is predominantly Christian?
The very fact that you are in Australia, means you like the place better than your mother country, whichever it happens to be, be it Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Acer is a budget laptop, but not manufactured for Asia/Pacific!
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Correction: Acer is a budget laptop, but not the one manufactured in China for Asia/Pacific! |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Mr. Kiran More, the ex-Indian cricketer, was in the team during the period from 05/12/1984 to 09/08/1993 chiefly as wicket-keeper and an useful lower order batsman, playing some stellar innings in tests and one day matches. Later, he was the team's Vice Captain and after retirement from the game, he was the BCCI's Chairman of Selectors and presently he is involved in various games-related projects.
When I called my friend, Mr. Chandrakant Shetty, on 23/06/2009 at 10.00 a.m. to enquire about Mr. Kiran More's arrival, he surprised me by handing over the phone to Mr. Kiran More, who may have just arrived and was with him? I briefly spoke to him and excused myself, as I felt it was not right for me to have a long chat, considering that he had a busy schedule and had many people to talk to. Mr. Kiran More has arrived in Bahrain to conduct a training workshop for school students to play the game as per the cricket manual and learn the finer aspects of it.
I am very thankful to my friend, Mr. Chandrakant Shetty, for inviting me to join him to accompany Mr. Kiran More to a golf course, as the latter is very much interested in this game. Though I had been to the golf courses on a few occasions, however, I had not seen this sport being played at close quarters. Thanks to Mr. Kiran More, I happened to go all around the golf course by golf cart and get a rudimentary idea about this game, i.e. the way it is played, the furthest extent the ball can be hit and some golf terminologies like eagle, bogey, birdie, etc. Though I have not played the game or know anything about it, I am quite fortunate to have the signed photos of some legends like Arnold Palmer, Greg Norman and Gary Player, which I have kept with my other precious collection under lock and key at home.
Mr. Kiran More is quite a simple, down-to-earth person, who spoke to everyone both at the golf course and at the hotel and thanked the staff at the golf course and was polite and indulged in small staff with the singers and waiters at the hotel and obliged people who approached him for autographs or were requesting to pose with him for photographs. I have seen some Indian cricketers putting a lot of airs and having an exaggerated importance of themselves, but this unassuming personality was totally of a different mould, who could easily melt, blend and become a face in the crowd.
I had the unique opportunity to meet and talk to Mr. Kiran More (and others too) about cricket, cricketing personalities and various other issues. It was quite an interesting evening that will go down-the-memory-lane and fill me with nostalgia when I think of it in years to come.
Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
Nelson |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Jun 27, 2009 |
They are killing hindus, sikhs and muslims in autralia, canada and ireland. - Ashraf
At the outset, let me say that I regret having to comment on such a post. When you say that Muslims are killed in all these nations, why are you flocking to these nations. By any stretch of imagination they are not paradise or virgin territories( have you heard of virgin islands, even that piece of land may not be so virgin after all). As all human beings are, every country is what its citizens make of it. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Your opinion here will be considered as FULL & FINAL on this matter considering your expertise in that field.
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Nagendra,
Thanks for having faith in me, but I must confess, I am not an expert in this field! Please don't take my word as final!
However, I guess you have directed this poser to me, believing in my experience over the last 8 years, assembling and servicing PCs, catering to a small class of demanding clients.
For all I know, many Multinationals including Intel and Microsoft get their hardware manufactured in China according to their specifications for
Asia and Pacific.
Some of the peripherals might enter Europe, US and other Continents as well, depending on their cost viability and stringent quality standards.
I have been using a Segate 40GB IDE HDD that has lasted for more than 10 years now(I have still retained it for sentimental values and it is still my PC's drive one!), and still going strong. It carries a Made in China label!
Logitech Mouse and Keyboard that I use also have zero problems, though I change them as and when I deal off my older pcs.
I had some problem with Logitech Wireless keyboard and mouse recently, but then I found out that the OEM batteries manufactured for Duracell in China were bad!
Korean Company Hyundai is reputed for manufacturing RAMs, popularly known as Hynix of late. They give 3 years' warranty, but are not dependable anymore! Transcend or Simmtronics have proved better over the years, offering same warranty period.
Samsung HDDs came out with 5 Years warranty, following which Seagate also had to act alike! Now you don't see Samsung HDDs in market anymore, for their mechanical and optical drives failed miserably, though their monitors are very much dependable! Samsung HDDS, CD and DVD writers had highest complaints over the years! However, AOC TFT monitors have revolutionised the market with their superb quality and lower prices!
Samsung is a Korean Company as you know, but we get their products manufactured in China.
LG is also a Korean Company. Best CD/DVD drives that I have seen are manufactured by LG, again made in China!
ASUS, supposed to be a great name in Computers have sub-standard products like optical drives and motherboards these days! I had very bad experience with their Lightscribe drive, that writes the label on DVDs with very poor resolution! Adding to problems, I lost time with at least 100 DVDs in the last 6 months due to write failure/Power Calibration error!
Sony DVD drives are made by Liteon, but Liteon drives are better than Sony! Don't ask me why!
I am not well worst with Laptops. I am given to understand that Sony Viao tops the list with Lenovo coming next, Dell ruling third and HP/Compaq next. According to me, HP laptops are value for money, and much dependable. Acer is a budget laptop, but not manufactured for Asia/Pacific!
All said and done, most of these products are made in China as per respective Company standards, but the unassuming end user ultimately has to suffer due to some manufacturing/handling defect at the end of the day!
One of my friends who imported parts for his PC from the USA still feels that his PC has no issues except for SMPS unit manufactured by Frontech, a Chinese make!
I guess, I am elaborate enough on this, with my marginal knowledge about PCs and Laptops!
All I said was from my personal experience, and need not be true in all cases! |
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| Surendra Poojari, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
| Ashraf..Don't blame any religion. You are pointing finger at christians. Don't do that. No religion supports violence. If racist attacks are happening in Australia you cannot blame christians for that. Pakistan is supporting terrorism in India so shall I tell that muslims are supporting terrorism? No..I cannot say that. So just because you have this forum to express your feelings don't misuse this. You are trying to spread hatred. Tippu did attack the churches. Even Ghazni Mohammad and other muslim kings attack churches or temples. So don't blame any religion for violence. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Don't waste your time with school children Mr Kudpi. - Shenoy Maam
These Babies will stop crying thereafter"as they grow bigger" - Dony Baab
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At least if the posts had some sense, I'd have educated them. They are mostly intended to demean others on religious issues, for which I can't be a silent spectator!
Let me reiterate, that I am not a religious person. I am not a member of any political party as well!
I do respect others' religious beliefs, though! |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Sick jokes are making rounds and I was totally put off by this one about the late Michael Jackson. It is about how Farah Fawcett reached heaven and God asked her what is her wish for which she replied 'keep my children safe' and God agreed.
I feel sorry for Jackson kids who will find it tough in their growing years. They will need to be properly and periodically counselled. Children have a totally different concept about death. They need to be told the truth in a gentle way. Eventually time shall heal the painful wounds. May he rest in eternal peace at least now. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 27, 2009 |
I am sure you too have heard of all these Alfred, haven't you? :-) -0 nagendra Shenoy.
Nagendram, I have heard but people's memory is too short now a days and therefore somebody need to keep reminding them. Otherwise one day nobody remebers what is secular, equality etc. There are many new comers in this forum you know. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
That too after IBM of USA sold its PC business to Lenovo. Anand, can we know why IBM has still retained its Server business with themselves? Is there any branded Server manufacturing company from China?-Nagendra.
Nagendra,
IBM has not sold entire PC business to Lenovo. In fact they (Lenovo) have become channel partners for IBM PCs and Laptops in few selected nations. Server assembling and sales is still has a huge market in the developing nations like India, China, Philippines etc. The future of this market is expected to get revenue of 30% more than the PC business. 30% in terms of millions of Dollars is not small money. Probably that is the reason; IBM could have taken a strategic decision to focus on to Server business. However I do not have any evidence to prove my understandings on this issue here.
IBM is literally into every segment. They are offering Supply Chain solutions also. However, their staunch competitors (in Server segment) SUN Micro has not yet diversified their business vision. It looks like IBM is gearing up to meet tomorrow. In this ever changing world the people who gear-up or adapt changes will survive and others perish. It happened with many Bigwigs in the past. It would keep happening in the future too. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Nagendra
Please don't put words in my mouth. I was talking in context of BJP's victory in Mangalore, in-spite of so much communal tension.
If you don't like what I post don't read it man, you have no right to ridicule my opinion. just ignore and zip it up. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
KRS,
What do you think of China made HDDs, RAMs, Laptops etc.? Your opinion here will be considered as FULL & FINAL on this matter considering your expertise in that field. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Sony Vaio is from US - Nagendra.
Regret the typo error. Sony VAIO is also from Japan.
There is an Indian Brand of Laptop based out of Kolkata known as Chirag Laptops. Saurav Ganguly is the Brand Ambassador for that laptop.
ASUS which used to manufacture HDDs is also manufacturing laptop which is a Taiwan based company.
PCs and peripherals distributor ESys also manufactures laptops is from Singapore.
In desktops/laptops, as far as I know, only Lenovo is Chinese. That too after IBM of USA sold its PC business to Lenovo. Anand, can we know why IBM has still retained its Server business with themselves? Is there any branded Server manufacturing company from China? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Will it be like how you called Jack as Jackass Nagendra:-)
I was referring to an imaginary name Jack, D P Maam. Hope you haven't taken it as Jack Russell or Jack Welch or Jack Trout! :-)) |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
A.P, will you please read once again what you wrote?
Whether all who write here in this forum are better placed than Anand in Saudi Arabia? How do you say that Ananda? Have you taken the details of all?-NS Shenoy.
Dear NSS Saab
First off all you are not discussing the issue of Chinese goods' quality in the above statement.
There were many issues discussed between you and me or any others here. You may call it an Ego or in any terms a you are free to term or frame anyone here.
Instead of presenting the clear facts with proper evidence, if someone points out any blogger personally, it is out of ego only. Hence, this was written in return as clarification.
I feel, I am certainly better placed. I need not give proof to you, I suppose. I hae not written on any one other than myself and Nelson. Please read before commenting.
Instead of discussing the issue or debating the issue, let us not dig personal issues here in. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
"Treat others the way you want to be treated" :-)))))))))"-Nagendra Shenoy on high.
Will it be like how you called Jack as Jackass Nagendra:-) |
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| DONY LOBO, DOHA, Qatar |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India,…. Shenoy, India…..Merwyn Machado, Australia,….. Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE, and all other esteemed and distinguished members of this forum…….
All babies cannot walk the day (or for a few days, months or years) they are born whether they are human, animal or any other specie except perhaps the fish (I do not know much about them).
Similarly, I feel there are two new baby journalists in this august forum and to be specific, and I do believe Rasheed…UAE, Praveen Pinto, and to certain extent a third…Manoj India, ……qualify for this tag as all three of whom seem to have just joined the forum and have started with their very first individual postings, spewing all pent up volcanic venom which may have been hidden within their psyches just for too long.
Its best just to read and ignore or forget their postings full of hatred against other religions and just take no trouble of commenting on their meaningless posts.
These Babies will stop crying thereafter "as they grow bigger"
As perhaps one of the oldest members of this forum, and duly respecting the Editor's courtesy to give absolute freedom for anyone to express anything in this forum, may I appeal to one and all those who wish to post messages to kindly keep away commenting on any religion, religious practices (not practices like 9/11 or 26/11 or devil worship or satanic cults) aimed at hurting each others' religious sentiments. After all,…. all religions basically want their followers to lead a good life and pray to the same God who has created and sent us into this world.
Perhaps I am sure everyone will join in one voice to congratulate Mr. Surendra Poojary, India for his brilliant message: All human beings are equal. I don't find any difference between a hindu, a muslim or a christian. All are one and the same. God is one though we worship them in different names. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Can you explain to me in what way Christians are responsible for global terrorism? - Alfred to S K Shetty.
Alfred,
Many people have misconceptions about other religions. Our Man of the Match from USA Srimaan Puttur Dinesh feels that majority Hindus are communal minded, this of course is in addition to the usual boring talks like unity, rights, secular, equality etc etc (as if the person speaking has patented those talks and rest are ignorants) which we have been reading/listening from our primary school days. I am sure you too have heard of all these Alfred, haven't you? :-)
Note - Yes..... Then the concluding remark "Treat others the way you want to be treated" :-))))))))) |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 27, 2009 |
1. Tell me the crime rate in your Australia and compare it to the crime rate in Saudi Arabia.
2. Who were behind World wars? Muslims or Christians?
3. Who dropped the Atomic bomb killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians within minutes? Muslims or Christians?
4. Who invaded Iraq and caused 500,000 civilian deaths? Muslim or Christian people?
5. How come there are non-stop racial attacks on Indians in Australia? Don’t you read the news? - K. Rasheed.
Rasheed, first please answer one question of mine. Did Allah or God or Bhagawan made Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists etc. For me he is only one but we call him in different names. God made only hman beings and other creatures. It is only in human beings there are different religions. Do you know why? Because of greed of some human beings. Rest of the creatures live as one. If you can understand this then your above questions are answered automatically. Also note there only two kind of people in this world, good people and bad people and bad people give the tag of religion. Therefore, let us not bring enmity among human beings in the name of religion. No country belongs to any religion. Yes, there are some believers in majority in different countries. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
All Major Cell Phones Nokia, Motorola, Sony Ericson are all coming from China. All branded lap tops and Monitors are coming from China - Anand (Saudi Arabia)
Anand,
Nokia is from Finland. Motorola is from USA. In fact it is the first company in the world to adopt the 'Six Sigma' process. Sony Ericson is nowhere from China. It is a joint venture between Sony of Japan and Ericsson which is not from China.
Branded laptops like HP (and Compaq), Dell and Apple are from USA. Acer is from Taiwan. Sony Vaio is from US. Wipro, HCL, Zenith are Indian brands. Zenith can be compared to Chinese products. Their punchline used to be "MNC quality, Indian price". It could have been "Chinese quality.......", suits well for them. PCS promotes Dell in India.
Toshiba is from Japan. Toshiba manufactures close to 85% materials that go into a laptop and major players procure materials from them. If they make up their mind, they can bring their laptops at less than half the price of what other players offer. But if they do that, they would axe their own feet since selling materials to other players is their BREAD & BUTTER business.
Monitors, RAMs, HDDs mostly come from Taiwan and Japan. China can manufacture items like safety pins, jug, mug, watches for kids sold in flea markets, bed lamps, mini-torches, clips for ladies etc etc. Afterall, we need someone to manufacture these as well! :-)) |
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| Merwyn Machadoi, Australia |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Anand, just stating my opinion like everyone does in this forum, I am not a master nor a slave to anyone.
And as for my ignorance of news that you have pointed out, I was in media & advertising for 11 years in Kuwait handling the whole Middle East including your Saudi Arabia of Jeddah, Riyadh, Dammam, Khobar, Medina & the Levant countries including North Africa.
Relax & have a nice Jackson or sadiqui, don't burst a vessel on EYT. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jun 27, 2009 |
Rasheed
I pity your comprehension ability like others of your ilk in the Gulf arguing from crumbling edifices of morality erected by the self appointed custodians of those countries.
If you read clearly, you might comprehend that I have commented on democracy, freedom of expression, media & the double standards that even a blind man in the Gulf can profess to know. Never have I commented on muslim versus christianity although I can run rings round any of your replies without breaking a sweat.
I request you to limit your replies without getting into religious issues. Probably you would do better to sit at the Dammam border counting the number of Saudi cars coming back from Bahrain after absolving all their sins & crime rates across the border. It would be an eye opener than wasting your time on EYT. |
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| N.S.Shenoy, India |
Jun 27, 2009 |
“The matter of fact is that by and large China made indigenous goods is terrible in quality....All writers here including me and my dear friend Nelson are well placed, may be better than you." - Ananda Padebettu
A.P, will you please read once again what you wrote?
Whether all who write here in this forum are better placed than Anand in Saudi Arabia? How do you say that Ananda? Have you taken the details of all?
Do you like to suggest any amendments to your sentence?
No. Your EGO may not permit. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Stop blaming me – Come back with your facts. -K Rasheed UAE
I think this debate is getting out of control. By writing on this forum if any one can solve the problems, then it would be fine. Otherwise it is just a waste of time.
Why not talk about other things like cricket for example? Did you enjoy the T20 finals between Pakistan and Sri Lanka? What about India's voctory today against West Indies?
Or movies for that matter. Katrina Kaif's movie is released today. [NEW YORK] Have you watched it by any chance? Do you like Katrina by the way?
What about food? Have you visited the Tandoor restaurant in Bangalore? Or even Abhimaan residency in Mangalore? What about Diana in Udupi?
Ibrahim Hussain saab, aap kahan gayab ho gaye saab? Aap ko attendance shortage hoga toh zaroor. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Also in fine print you may also add this message '-Praveen Pinto
Yes add this message- Not to be served to midgets below 4 feet height:)
PS: There is no way you will be served brother;p |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Is that clear Mr. Pinto? -Mr Kudpi
Don't waste your time with school children Mr Kudpi. Tiligedi huduga. Hogli budi buddhi. Yelladroo bedkondu irtaane. Buttbudi devroo. |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Mr. Pinto,
Would you bother to go through some of my recent posts on why BJP lost in the recent Lok Sabha Elections and then jump to conclusions?
You seem to be funded by Mafia Naxalites or Terrorists, the way you express things in this august forum!
You have zero authority to poke your nose into others' business and give a judgement about what I have expressed, when Mr. Bernard has not appointed you as his defense counsel.
Is that clear Mr. Pinto?
Don't try to spin yarn from burnt fibre! We have enough trouble makers here already! |
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| Surendra Poojari, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Hey Rasheed
Before you question Merwyn can you please answer these questions:
Who is responsible for killng of thousands of Kurds in Iraq?
Who is responsible for 26/11 Mumbai attacks?
Who is instigating terror in Kashmir?
Who is responsible for 9/11 attacks?
Who is responsible for London bombing?
So you don't have any right to point out your finger at any religion my brother. Due to above innocent people lost their lives. All religions teach us to respect each other and all religions denounce violence. |
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| Surendra Poojari, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
| Sunil...You want all hindus to convert back to Hinduism. But what is the guarantee that you will not discriminate based on caste? Are these so called brahmins accept untouchables (as you say) in their temples or homes? All human beings are equal. I don't find any difference between a hindu, a muslim or a christian. All are one and the same. God is one though we worship them in different names. |
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| Ananda Padebettu, Mumbai, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
The Sriram/Usha products available in Gulf are made in China. The Picture tube of Onida and Videocon are made in China. All Indian car manufacturers ancillary products like head lamp glass, tail lamp lens, stearings etc. are coming from China. All Major Cell Phones Nokia, Motorola, Sony Ericson are all coming from China. All branded lap tops and Monitors are coming from China.
I think it is useless to write in this forum on self proclaimed journalist or high standard bloggers. Need not to mention the reason.-Anand, Saudi Arabia.
You are absolutely wrong Mr. Anand (be Happy). Not all brands you have mentioned are manufactured or assembled only in China. Since, you reside in Saudi Arabia you may not have cum across about these facts as there is more soil, dates and Petrol and money out of petrol. Moreover the issue was not on whether China is the leading manufacturer in the world or not? It was all about the quality of the goods which are exclusively Chinese. You have entered the ring, off-late without knowing what is going on.
For that matter, many of these companies (Listed by you) have their manufacturing assembling units world-over. Nokia and Motorola have assembling units in the countries like Azerbaijan also. This set-up doesn’t change Nokia’s tag from being Finnish Company. They have manufacturing cum assembling units in India too. It applies to almost every multinational IT and Telecom companies which deal with both hardware and software. If Tata cars are being found in Portugal or Spain, Tata can’t get a tag of being Portuguese or Spanish company.
All multinational brands you have listed manufactured in any country undergo thorough tests as per international standards. Therefore, no matter if you buy Nokia mobile of Chinese made, Indian made or Azerbaijanis made, you will find them with almost equal quality. Chinese giants like Leneo and Huawei Technologies have a good market and establishment facilities in India. Does it mean that they are Indian companies?
A simple illustration I have witnessed on daily basis showing quality of exclusive Chinese goods. BEST in Mumbai has imported sophisticated Chinese made ‘Certia’ busses (also known as KING LONG) for luxurious city travel provision. Similarly, Volvo city busses are running in Bangalore. I have travelled in both for long time and I have experienced that the Chinese made busses running in Mumbai turn into pathetic condition after very few months of put to use. It is not the same case as far as Volvo city busses in Bangalore.
The matter of fact is that by and large China made indigenous goods is terrible in quality and they have been rejected by the people from world over. In a recent survey conducted by ‘Fortune Magazine’, it was revealed that most Americans prefer ‘Made in India’ to ‘Made in China’ not because of political reasons but because of reliability reasons.
By the way did you drive any Chinese car/motorbike? Bajaj has filed a law suite against a Chinese company for duplicating ‘Pulsar’ module. Have you ever tried these duplicated made in China in KSA?
Coming to your point about self proclaimed journalists, I think no one here including you, are professionals. It can be witnessed from your writings. If a person writes something in forums like this with the spirit, owing to his/her enthusiasm that becomes blog.
Did any one approach for an award or reward for presenting their views in this forum with you? You need not touch your pocket. All writers here including me and my dear friend Nelson are well placed, may be better than you. |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Hey Michael Lobo,
Your repeated attempt to disqualify Nalin Kumar as ‘RSS’ man shows your continued bitterness over election defeat. May be, it’s time for you to finally accept the election results and leave the bitterness behind.
Bottom line – Nalin Kumar defeated your hero, BJP (B.vJanardhana Poojary)!! He has opened his office and started working in the right direction. Don’t be so quick to write his political obituary – Give him a chance first. |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
She will be the brand ambassador for KING FISHER if Mr Pinto does not mind it.-Shenoy
Absolutely not Mr Shenoy, I don't mind it at all. In fact I suggest you may re-label it with Ms freida's picture too. But don't you forget to put a statutory warning on it with Muthalik's photo and the message' strictly for males only'. Also in fine print you may also add this message 'Not to be consumed along with Dali Tove, might cause serious complications'
I think Mr Mallya will surely gift us with his calender for our novel ideas. |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Why on earth do you try to bring Dobermann into question, unless you are trying to create a controversy/mischief here?-KRS
KRS, in case you suffer from amnesia here goes your earlier post.-
St. Bernard saves people from extreme cold climates in Swiss Alps and like places.
Do you belong to that family, Mr. Bernard?
At least your post sounds like that!-
My question to you was specific. Did you want to call Mr bernard a dog for questioning Advani's holiday expenses? You very well know St bernard is a breed of dogs like doberman etc. Your over reaction makes me wonder if you are being funded by the BJP. |
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| K.Rasheed, UAE |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Hey Merwyn Machado,
Looks like you lived in Gulf region before moving to a Christian country. Did you have some bad experience with Saudi Arabia when you lived in this region? Stop blaming me – Come back with your facts.
1. Tell me the crime rate in your Australia and compare it to the crime rate in Saudi Arabia
2. Who were behind World wars? Muslims or Christians?
3. Who dropped the Atomic bomb killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians within minutes? Muslims or Christians?
4. Who invaded Iraq and caused 500,000 civilian deaths? Muslim or Christian people?
5. How come there are non-stop racial attacks on Indians in Australia? Don’t you read the news?
Once we address these facts, we can find out who needs to find sand to bury their head in shame. |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 26, 2009 |
You have not answered my post which I had mentioned at great length.
You simply mention that I have a jehadi and warlike mentality. Your accusations are nothing, but waste. |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Please do not instigate war. It is done by only agents of international arms dealers.
DP Mam,
Aapne tappad Mar diya iske chahre per. Bahut Khoob. |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Sadly to say, I have to doubt not just your knowledge but your comprehension ability too.
Machado,
Dhoom Machaya toone.
You are no more master to anyone in this forum, so do I need to consider you a valuable or knowleagable blogger.
Which is apple and which is orange dear. Why you are only pointing on Kuwait airways and Saudi Airlines? Why not on our national carrier. Sorry dear, you are still in dark place of Australia, Jet or Kingfisher is not domestic airlines. They are on International route and full fledged internatinal airlines. Keep some minutes to enter to thier websites you will know. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai, , UAE |
Jun 26, 2009 |
christains r responsible for the global terrorisum
can any one answer this? - Shetty, UAE.
Well SK Shetty, after reading your above sentence I am of the opinion your knowledge on world affairs is minimum. Can you explain to me in what way Christians are responsible for global terrorism? My next comments will be on reading your justification of above sentence.
Eagerly awaiting for your response. |
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| Gopinath K, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
"Ghost Soldier on Duty in Indian Army " and the temple for Baba Harbhajan Singh.
D.P.Kumar, I wonder if the report is true.
If it is a fact that the Government continues to pay the salary and provide annual home visit for two months with railway accommodation for the "Ghost" to travel, it is a subject to ponder over. Whether the Government recognises Ghosts is for people to ponder over during this century!
After reading about this Ghost soldier, I remembered an instance in the book "Once there was a war" by John Steinbeck. ( Nobel Prize winner).
"A great many soldiers carry with them some small articles, touchstones or LUCKY piece of symbol.....
"One such lucky piece is a small wooden pig only about an inch long. Its owner believes the piece accomplishes remarkable things. Thus, in a bombing, he held the pig in his hand and said "Pig this one is not for us". In a shelling he said,"Pig, you know that the one that gets me, gets you."
Apart from keeping its owner safe, the pig has been known to raise a fog, smooth out a high sea, procure a beefsteak in a Restaurant which had not had one for weeks. With its earlier owner it is said to have commuted an execution, cured illness, cause of considerable fortune.
The association between a man and his amulet becomes not only very strong but very private. He will have fear of being laughed at! A feeling also grows that by telling this t others, the power would reduce. Also that the magic should not be called on too often.
The reliance on magic amulets is said to be more during wartime.
Steinbeck says, it is not fear of war but the loneliness and littleness that such small things become desirable and essential.
But yet, a temple with table, chairs, cot, bed, daily fresh ironed dress, polished shoes and annual pilgrimage of his photo to far off Punjab from Sikkim...
Can it be a real story?
Any reader traveler in Mangalorean.Com has visited this temple at Nathula pass? |
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| Surendra Poojari, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
| Shetty...If Pakistan is supporting terrorism we cannot blame entire muslim community for this. If racist attacks are going on in Australia or USA we cannot blame entire christian community. Similarly if Bajrang Dal attacks churches or mosques we cannot blame entire hindu community. As these groups are not representative of a good hindu. A good hindu is a person who not only loves his religion but also loves other religions and respects all human beings. Sitting in UAE and commenting it is easy. Come to India and look at the reality. These goons (bajarangis) don't have any other work and they create nuisance in the society. Please don't think UAE is a heaven and I know the reality. UAE gives priority to white skin people. They need people from other countries to do all petty jobs but when it comes to giving privileges its always to white skin....Jai Hind |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Nelson Lewis,
I was just interested in knowing what you would do if you are put on the shoes of our PM.
Instead, you are repeating the same China stuff again and again. I have very well given my views on Tibet and China long back. You only need to go back and read in the EYT.
I know you are making specialised studies on China, Pakistan and Narendra Modi! You conviniently close your eyes towards WARS being waged by third parties in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. Threats are given to countries like Iran and North Korea who do not toe the line dictated by Uncle Sam and company.
You appear to nurture same Jehadi mentality; not that of peace loving crores of citizens in India and Pakistan.
Remember, war is no solution for peace and peaceloving countries who honour Panchsheel.
Please do not instigate war. It is done by only agents of international arms dealers. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
He is a legend and one of the immortals of the music world and his name is etched in the sands of time. -Nelson Lewis
You will also see his foot prints teched at City Walk in Los Angeles.
I will remember him as a performer. His eccentricities perhaps pulled him down at times. However, there is no question that he was extremely popular. I remember hearing his voice for the first time at the New Chitra theatre in Mangalore when they used to play his records. [Maria, ae ae ae ae etc]Some of his songs were excellent.
My personal favourites are always the Beatles. She loves you heah yeah yeah etc are evergreen songs. |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
All play and no work/studies might make Jack a Jackass-Nagendra maam
Or a Jackson? |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, DUbai,, UAE |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Please stop blindly following your European master. Spread the truth. - K. Rasheed.
What is the truth, Rasheed? Perhaps you know better than me.
FYI, I am not blindly following European master. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Anand from Saudi Arabia
Please do not compare apples to oranges. I did not speak about Indian carriers that have unions, red tape & a democracy behind their troubles. I did not speak of the recent troubles of Jet, Kingfisher or other domestic airlines brought about by the fallout of the budget airlines.
I spoke of Kuwait Airways (& Saudi Arabia) being in the red since several decades inspite of being the national carriers of one of the wealthiest Middle East countries where oil is more cheaper than quboos.
Sadly to say, I have to doubt not just your knowledge but your comprehension ability too. |
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| Laveena Dsouza, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
christains r responsible for the global terrorisum
can any one answer this? .. SK SHETTY.
YES.. I can answer your question
TUM PAAGAL HO!! |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 26, 2009 |
Rasheed, I admire the way you stick to your ignorant views about crime rate in Saudi Arabia like the proverbial ostrich
Aray Machado,
What is happening in Australia. Beating/attacking Indian students, racial feelings. How you term this to Saudi Arabia. |
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| Anand, Saudi Arabia |
Jun 26, 2009 |
And for the sake of my argument your aviation knowledge looks very limited!
Machado,
Tum Mazak karta hai.
Who gave the certification to your aviation knowledge. Which University?
How long you are abroad. Air India, Indian Airlines, Jet, Kingfisher, Gulf Air many more are in state of collapse? They have not paid the Jet fuel money to the Oil companies in India.
The National Carrier of Air India begging the Government of India for Cash? Are you somewhere in the world where there is no media available. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
What is the difference between 35 percent marks and 100 percent marks? - D P Kumar.
D P Maam,
On a lighter note, don't you see a clear 65% difference?? :-))
It also means the former has put in less efforts and the latter has put more. It gives an opportunity for taking corrective action. Performance is clearly visible.
Take the case of grading. Lets say 75-80 score is B+ and 81-85 is A-. Now what is the difference between a 80 and 81? Yet 2 students who have scored these 2 scores will be in 2 different boats.
How many commit suicide or get traumatised and end up at NIMHANS after their respective board exams? May be they end up doing that more because of their own parents' unwanted pressure (Seat in MIT, MBBS seat is a MUST etc etc.) rather than the exam pressure.
Let there be the regular board exams with marking and not grading. I was happy with the regular board exams (in Mathematics, Social Science, Gen. Science etc.) in March and with Cricket and holidays in April and May (for which I did not take any exam) :-))
All play and no work/studies might make Jack a Jackass, D P Maam! :-) |
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| Nelson Lewis, Bahrain |
Jun 26, 2009 |
"Mr.Pai, I am just imagining how it will be, if you and Nelson share the posts of PM and Defence Ministry of this country! War, War and War...devastating and ruining," by Mr. D.P. Kumar.
Mr. D.P. Kumar,
I wanted to respond to your comment yesterday itself, but sadly due to my work priorities I could not.
Firstly, I am not interested in politics, as I strongly believe in the saying by Samuel Johnson, "politics is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
However, by your comments you have shown how base is your level of thinking and I pity you. I wonder if you have patriotism for your country or your patriotism is elsewhere?
Well, I cannot speak for Mr. R. Pai and he has to speak for himself. What made you think that I am a trouble monger?
In fact, the Leftists and their supporters, sympathisers and flunkeys are the greatest threat to India. Have the Leftists ever condemned China's aggression of India, the Tinnianmen Square massacre where countless people were massacred (and there has not been any investigations), the Chinese conquest of Tibet, the suppressing of the demonstrations by Tibetans just prior to Olympic Games held in Beijing in 2008, etc., etc.?
I personally feel that the Leftists and the Maoists who are creating a lot of problems are on the payroll of China and it is sad the Indian Government is not keeping a surveillance on the activities of these nefarious elements.
What India needs is a dynamic and assertive Prime Minister and not a wimp who just whimpers? Sardars are not only admired all over the world for their adventurism, dynamism and hard work, but also for their macho image. However, sadly this Sardar, though he may be the world's most educated Prime Minister is inarticulate, incapable of inspiring people and characters like Zardari and Gilani have treated him like a non-entity.
Pakistan terrorists attacked Bombay and created mayhem and colossal damage. What has Dr. Manmohan Singh done? Has he told the Pakistan Government of Mr. Asif Ali Zardari that he wants the terrorists by a certain date? Failing which, has he stopped trade with Pakistan, has he sealed the borders, has he withdrawn diplomatic relations with that country, has he stopped visas for Pakistanis going to Pakistan, has he gone on a campaign to show that country as a haven of terrorism, has he stopped air flights, has he been effective in telling the Americans that they are pouring billions of dollars to a country, whose leaders will pocket the money and also spend on arms suitable for fighting India and not for terrorism?
Mr. D.P. Kumar, short of going to war, India can strangulate Pakistan and bring it down to its knees.
Mr. D.P. Kumar what is your opinion about China, when it comes to occupation of Tibet, not vacating from territories occupied from India in 1962, about non-existence of Human Rights in China, about Kangaroo courts in China, its rubber stamp parliament, its obsession in coveting other countries' lands, etc.
For your kind information, I presume that Mr. R. Pai is a peace loving man and as far as I am concerned, people who personally know me, should be able to vouch for me.
Why do you not have the spine to say that China is the greatest threat to world peace? How will you? |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
"necessity to keep close relation with the northeastern states to keep them intact with the main stream."-right thought by Chandrashekar Kollya.
Just before reading your note, I was glancing a news report in todays newspaper.
In an international conference in Singapore, Mizoram Chief Minister Lal Tanhawla noted that often he encountered people telling him that he does not appear to be an Indian!
He says, it is an awareness deficit among Indians about their northeastern region. He feels that most Indians are lack awareness about the racial composition of India.
Lal Tanhawla questions "Why do you not accept that our great country is populated by at least 3 major races of the world?"
He cites the Dravidian in the south, the Aryans in the North and people belonging to the Mongoloid stock in the eastern-mainly north eastern region, besides the aborigines in various parts.
Please read:
Mizoram Chief Minister: I am told 'you do not look like an Indian'
http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/26/stories/2009062659741000.htm |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
"Do not scrap any board exams for 10th Std. students."-Nagendra Shenoy to HRD Minister Kapil Sibal.
Nagendra, just get back in your thoughts to your school days. How nice and happy it would have been if there was board exam in cricket, football, hockey, swimming, kabaddi...!
How enjoyable it would have been if there were classes in cooking and exams in eating!
Just look at the birds and animals. They do not have any examinations to worry about. The tigers and lions are taught to catch the prey and eat. There is no exam. If they catch, they can be out of hunger.
What is the difference between 35 percent marks and 100 percent marks? Both are declared PASS. You know well that a student scoring less marks can get priority seat, free seat etc by virtue of his birth. A person who scrored higher marks has to roam on the roads by virtue of his birth in general!
What use is hard work and scoring higher marks?
Over to you my friend. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Jun 26, 2009 |
R.Pai,
You made two statements in your thought and asked:
1)Is it the only thing you can think of in your limited imagination?
Then you wrote
2)How come our leadership and intellectuals like you don’t get it?
Please take it for sure that I belong to the former section with limited imagination.
I continue my learning from teachers like you in this forum with stick in hand and calling me a "budhhoo". I enjoy it dear. |
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| Gopinath K, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
"'For profit' educational institutions should be taxed and treated as a business and not as educational institutions."-Vishal
You have rightly pointed out the need to tax profits by such institutions.
The accounted "collection" of political parties are also to be taxed. |
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| Laxman, Goa, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
International trade tactics.
Well explained by Shenoy.
The owners of the big brands are moving away from direct manufacturing. From the nuts and bolts to the finished products, low-end to high-end, most things are manufactured in outsourced/contracted facilities. It does not matter to the consumer where the item is manufactured, so long as they recognise the brand and the quality is assured.
China produces almost anything that the consumer wants to buy.
What must alarm Indian workers is that many Indian business houses have also started getting their products manufactured in China.
Indian business houses are often troubled by the unions. China has hardly of these worries.
If you want the country to move forward, a degree of discipline in the manufacturing sector is essential. India is unfortunately not very strong in this area. So, let us not make fun of the Chinese. Let us respect them and learn from them. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jun 25, 2009 |
Arabia has very low crime rate because of their strict laws and clean living. Western prisoners are filled with criminals. Why are you ignoring these hard facts ... Rasheed
Rasheed, I admire the way you stick to your ignorant views about crime rate in Saudi Arabia like the proverbial ostrich which buries its head in the ground, or should I say sand.
If you were in Dubai there's not much sand left around Karama or Ghisais or Bur Dubai but then again you can always try the construction sites. |
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| Merwyn Machado, Australia |
Jun 25, 2009 |
Which airlines are profitable these days, can you quote one ... Anand from KSA
Please do not reply just because you are in Saudi Arabia. Many of the Gulf national carriers have been languishing in the red since decades & not because of the recent recession. In your own words Emirates, Qatar Airways, Ethihad can be called gadang airlines?
Majority of the people who travel Kuwait Airways do because they are employees or have free tickets or barter deals or citizens with some percentage of loyalty towards the national carrier. I'm sure the same is for Saudi Arabia.
And for the sake of my argument your aviation knowledge looks very limited! |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
Here's a YOUTUBE link dedicated to our great friend Praveen Pinto -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs
Enjoy Mr. Pinto! Others also enjoy watching. After all, this is a public video :D |
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| Roshan Pais, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
| Souzam, Recession or not pigions never stop depositing! |
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| K.Rasheed, UAE |
Jun 25, 2009 |
The flood of responses that I received to my earlier post especially from one specific community proves my point again. I hate to say this, but I have to state the facts – Those who blindly follow European way of life (life style, fashion, religion and others) are increasingly attacking Islam these days.
I’m not saying every woman who wears a bikini is bad. Same way, I am not saying every Muslim woman is good. However, when we look at the bigger picture – there is no debate. Those living a modest life style are doing far better than westerners when it comes to family values and clean living.
What France is trying to do is nothing but what European powers did for centuries. They always tried to tell rest of the world how they are superior and we are inferior. The same mindset can be seen here in Gulf too.
Europeans are responsible for the biggest crimes in the history. They are behind the biggest wars. They are behind almost all the wars even today by supporting both sides. How can they talk about equality and freedom when they have so much blood in their hands? Saudi Arabia has very low crime rate because of their strict laws and clean living. Western prisoners are filled with criminals. Why are you ignoring these hard facts?
Please stop blindly following your European master. Spread the truth.
Jai Ho! |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
I am surprised by your hero-worship.-Praveen Pinto
I am neither surprised nor perturbed by this observation of Mr Pinto.
Afterall, the same Pinto wrote a load of trash about Vijay Mallya's business.
I hope he is not related to Freida in any way.:)
PS: She will be the brand ambassador for KING FISHER if Mr Pinto does not mind it.:P |
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue.-S D Souza
The difference is, the pigeon can shit on the statue with pleasure but the statue can not take revenge.:)
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| Shenoy, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
World respects those who respect themselves. Weaklings have no place in serious discussion. Even countries like N.Korea understand it!-R Pai
Dhamadam mast kalandar! Chamatkar ho gaya. Fantastic thoughts there Pai maam. Could not have been better expressed. Easily the best post for this month! |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
In the end when we leave this place we are not even allowed to carry "langoti" with us forget a few cents.
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Govindraj,
I have been reading your posts since last two years. I know how you faced challenges in life and reached a good stature today!
Loyalty to your Institution has been your magic word all through, and I don't find anything wrong with your promotional post regarding CITIBANK.
I have posted my candid thoughts without malice, and you have too!
All the best Govindraj!
To qoute a few lines from my High School prayer originally written by Sir Rabindranath Tagore -
"Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action--
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake." |
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| Kudpi Rajanikanth Shenoy, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
Just one sentence on your hero and you pounce on him.
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Can you specify who's my Hero, Mr. Pinto?
I'd also like to know, if you are a self appointed Lawyer of Mr. Bernard.
I guess, Mr. Bernard is strong and confident enough to retaliate my posts.
Why on earth do you try to bring Dobermann into question, unless you are trying to create a controversy/mischief here?
Your post looks totally out of place, Mr. Pinto! |
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| S. D' Souza, Udyavar, Udupi, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue.
-David Brent |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Jun 25, 2009 |
Mr KRS, Did You really mean it? Did you really want to call Mr Bernard a St. Bernard or Doberman?
I am surprised by your hero-worship. Just one sentence on your hero and you pounce on him. |
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| R.Pai, USA |
Jun 25, 2009 |
“Mr.Pai, I am just imagining how it will be, if you and Nelson share the posts of PM and Defence Ministry of this country! War, War and War...devastating and ruining.” – D.P.Kumar
War, eh? Is it the only thing you can think of in your limited imagination?
War is not the only option to deal with your enemies. There are many other things to make your enemies bleed and die a slow death. I’m not going to repeat what I wrote earlier in this forum – You can always search and read it.
Remember – Repeating the ‘peace’ mantra in the face of certified thugs and criminals is a well-known sign of a weakling. World respects those who respect themselves. Weaklings have no place in serious discussion. Even countries like N.Korea understand it! How come our leadership and intellectuals like you don’t get it? Sixty years of apology and peace initiatives with occasional signs of strength (Indira Gandhi / Vajpayee) have made us a big crying baby in international scene! |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, Dubai,, UAE |
Jun 25, 2009 |
| Raj, you mean to say once Afzal Guru & Kasab hanged there will not be any problems with India and Pakistan? If you guarantee that, then I would say it is better to hang them at the earliest. |
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