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Chicago: Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh Receives Proclamation

Submitted by: Austin Prabhu, Chicago

Naperville, IL. January 31: Naperville shakha of Chicago vibhag received SNY 2009 proclamation today at the hands of Hon. Mayor of the City of Naperville George Pradel, at the city hall.  Hon. Mayor and the city officials honored the request of HSS and handed over a beautifully 'rosewood framed' proclamation. Hon. Mayor also agreed to do a proclamation and a big event during Diwali this year.
 
The chief fire officer Mark Puknaitis was also present for the event, and he has agreed to conduct a Yoga session for over 200 firemen, just after the winter season. Photos are attached herewith and are also available on the below link.  Fire officer also agreed to conduct a small awareness session for shakha kids.

Hon.Mayor and other city officers are helping Naperville Shakha in all ways, such a Raksha Bandhan, Over 300 people had attended for the candle light vigil (Mumbai terror attack) etc.
  
Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS) USA: In India we have Rashtria Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and in USA it is called Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS.)  The uniqueness of Hindu Dharma and the culture as practiced by the Hindu community has a significant contribution to make for the benefit of humanity. Therefore HSS feels that it is essential for Hindus living in America to develop unity and harmony in their community to effectively promote these salient features. There are around two million Hindus in the US. Their contributions to the economic, social and cultural life are widely acclaimed.

Introduction: Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS) USA is a voluntary, non-profit, social and cultural organization. Sangh, as the organization is popularly known, aims to organize the Hindu community in order to preserve, practice and promote Hindu ideals and values. HSS conducts structured programs of regular athletic and academic activities to develop strong character and leadership skills in its members (known as swayamsevaks for men and sevikas for women), emphasizing values such as self-discipline, self-confidence and a spirit of selfless service (seva) for humanity. HSS encourage maintaining Hindu cultural identity in harmony with the larger community.

Sangh is inspired by the idea that the whole world is one family and conducts activities across the United States in order to spread this message widely. Sangh in the United States started in 1989 and today has over 100 weekly meeting centers (shakhas) acrossUSA and it is growing.
 
Shakha Activities: Each chapter of HSS is known as Shakha - a weekly program for the entire family. While the kids enjoy learning in the balagokulam, youth and adults also participate in activities such as games, songs, discussions, and lectures on Hindu culture. HSS strongly emphasize the physical, intellectual and spiritual growth of each individual and also promote a sense of discipline.

Yoga: According to HSS, in order to promote spiritual growth, a sense of unity with the environment and general well being, yoga is an important part of the shakha program.

Games: There are a variety of games, including kabaddi and kho-kho that are played in shakha. The games enhance ability to work as a team, stamina, physical strength or even strategic skills to bring about a spirit of cooperation and create a light, free atmosphere in shakha.

Balagokulam: Children's program in the shakha is called Balagokulam. In the Balagokulams, children learn about their Hindu heritage. They have fun playing games with the other kids. A strong emphasis is also laid on developing leadership qualities and becoming confident representatives of Hindu Dharma.
A well-structured syllabus for different age groups is used at the Balagokulams. In addition, a detailed teacher's training guide has been prepared which can be used by adults that are interested in conducting Balagokulams in their local community.

Balagokulam Magazine: As part of the Balagokulam activities, HSS publishes a quarterly magazine where children contribute much of the content.  The magazine includes articles, poems, paintings, crossword puzzles, stories, and plenty more!  Each age group has a contest for each section, and a team of volunteers picks the best items to publish.  The magazine does an extraordinary job of informing children about Hindu heritage in a language that they can understand.

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Upin, India Feb 2, 2009
Bhoj,

Thanks for your concerns of not being able to send the Sene to save us from being converted to Christianity a long time ago. Its nice to know you have conditional love for us.

But looks like now you hate us and want to finish us off because you could not. save us once upon a time.

At least you agree that we are one people. God bless you man.

India is a great nation, Bhoj with a great culture and we are all its children. It can be a even greater nation if we gave up these biases we hold against one another.
Zubaid, India Feb 1, 2009
Mr Tathagata,

Where is reservation provided to Minorities in India ?

Muslims have not been provided reservation though if social and economic backwardness are the criteria they are worse off than many.

Christians get no reservation at all, they have made progress because of their own charitable educational institutions. They have given a lot more to this country than they have taken.

Minorities get no reservation in India.

You might be referring to the right of minorities to run their own educational institutions. That is a constitutional right that has been there from 1950 when our constitution was established. It is a founding principle of the country.

Since you are so pine-ing on the topic of reservation, you might be enlightened to know that in the two advanced countries we have the US and Singapore there is something called as diversity norms. In Singapore even private companies are required to meet diversity requirements where they have to have employees from all categories based on their representation in population. In the US diversity is in effect for everything Govt. The US universities base their admissions on diversity and affirmative action so they give representation to all sections of society. The recent US Supreme court ruling upheld the right of Universities to implement affirmative action in admission.

Minorities do not get any reservation in India. As some others have mentioned if a person from SC/ST or OBC converts his faith then he or she looses the reservation they are entitled to.

You can hate muslims and christians for a lot of things but please not for reservation. We ain't got it yet.

At least treat us the same way your RSS gets treated outside when they are a minority, that much will do.
Siva, USA Feb 1, 2009
Devadas,

Stop propagating Hindu hate!
Have you ever visited RSS Shakha? You should if you want to criticize honestly and with right facts. RSS is a great equalizer. There is no discrimaination based on caste in Shakhas! RSS leaders have been always from Brahmin community. How many leaders can you name?. How many of them Brahmins? I have been with them - I cannot remember more than 4 or 5 names as leaders and definitely do not know what caste they are! That is because no one discusses about their caste of the leaders in Shakhas!
Really caste discrimination is a very serious problem in Hindu society. I think the real cure for that is RSS principles!!
Devdas, UAE Feb 1, 2009
RSS has its representative org. all over the world, with names of HSS USA, HSS UK, SEWA International etc. It says that “whole world is family” but in fact never lifts lower caste people, rather it uses them as weapon against other minorities. RSS leaders always from Brahmin community (so called pure race). Coming to HSS – HSS is representative org. of Indian RSS. The structure & classes held are same as RSS. In 2002 a special investigation by Jonathan Miller of Channel 4 News reveals that a high profile British charity has been raising funds for extreme Hindu groups involved in the massacre. 15 min. of investigation video reveals all…. JAI HIND

http://www.stopfundinghate.org/resources/mm/c4news.rm
Manu, UAE Feb 1, 2009
Linguist Max-Muller has invented the Aryan invasion theory that ancient Aryans invade India at about 1500BC, driven out the Dravidians from their land, have imported the Hindu civilization along with Sanskrit language from the steppes of central Asia. The theory was the justification for the British occupation of India, as Winston Churchill remarked. Although there was no archeological evidence to support this theory, it has become the most important doctrine on the ancient Indian history. There are increasing evidence that India was the original home of the Aryans.
Prashant Poojary , UAE Feb 1, 2009
Sangh is inspired by the idea that the whole world is one family and conducts activities across the United States in order to spread this message widely. GOOD JOB HSS / RSS.
Tathagata Gowda, India Feb 1, 2009
Zaheer Bhai: HSS isnot demanding special rights, reservation for minorities based on religious ground in USA, or Europe.

That's the difference between HSS and minority organizations in India who demand special rights, reservation, policy measures based on religion.

You can't have it both ways- secularism and policy for minorities based on religion.
Bhoj, India Jan 31, 2009
Oliver Canada
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If christians and muslims are foreign so is hinduism -- You still do not get it. Hinduism is not a religion, so you cannot compare it to your christian company.
I do not think you have read about the lost years of Jesus -- First read that.
Tell me why Jesus preached christianity ... - Omar Mulla the taliban kingpin preached Mullanity - I don't know. I was of the opinion christ was his last name.
It is unfortunate that India was not there even to save your kind from Portuguese conversion - we all apologize for that.
Bhabulal, USA Jan 31, 2009
Siva,

The way you are defending caste system, is the way some folks here defended slavery back then. Nothing wrong with the caste system, only little problem with discrimination. Statements like that are an insult to someone from the lower castes when one reads them.

Employers defend child labor the same way. If we do not employ them then they go hungry.

Its the moral justification the oppressor needs.

I think you make a excellent point why if Dalit changes his faith he should not be denied reservation. Because his discrimination does not end with change of faith at all. I hope you are not blaming the caste system on Muslims, Christians or British like some on this site have.

I believe religious freedom in India is being made a joke. Sangh Parivar should come here to see what religions freedom really means rather than push India in the direction of theocracy like Pakistan.
Oliver , MANGALORE, Canada Jan 31, 2009
Bhoj, India
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it looks like either u r not informed or doesnt want to learn.. if christians and muslims are foreign religion so is hinduism. there is a lot of healthy and educated discussion hinduism got the name bcoz of Indus, by the way u should know these basics about aryans and dravidians settling in north and south. about ur theory of jesus studying hindu philosophy, it sounds like ur thoughts and knowledge!! even if we have to beleive, tell me why did he preach christianity?? did he find christianity better than hindu philosophy ??.
regarding the American costitution LAKSHMAN has answered you.
at the end, let me tell you we are totally happy and blessed that people (thanks to SENE it wasnt there, telL me was INDIA there at that time ??) did not save us from portugese conversion
Lakshman, India Jan 31, 2009
Raj,

I take back my comments as what you put in was a typo. I am sorry if I was aggressive with my comments.

I am on the same page with what you said in your second message.

America is a secular democratic nation like India. America's constitution and its ideals of freedom and liberty are as I understand based on Biblical ideas of human freedom.

Christians are the vastly dominant majority in the US, but the society is tolerant and respecting of each individuals freedom to choose the life and faith they please. It is a law abiding society with complete religious, personal and political freedom in letter and practice.

Unlike in India where we have retrograde groups free to terrorize the freedom enshrined in the Indian constitution to its citizens, there is no such thing happening in the US as the law is supreme and everyone respects is and is treated fairly and firmly under it.

I lived in the US for many years and I am a devout Hindu and I am in awe of what they have achieved, though there are many imperfections, it is a great nation. Our Sangh folks ought to learn something from them rather than propagating hatred and theocracy back here.

India's future does not lie in hatred and theocracy, its a false ideal.
Siva, USA Jan 31, 2009
Ravi,
You are free to attack Hinduism. But I have my freedom to say you are 'wrong'.

Please note Hinduism is progressive (esceptions are there). Does not defend something only because it is ancient or in scripture. I agree there are some retrogade people. But see the bigger picture.

Child marriages are completely banned. I have not seen or heard any child marriages or even justification of the same in Managlore or around! No one justifies, not even Hindu Talibanis!

Sati System: Have you heard evene one incident in our region! None, Zero! No one justifies, Not even Hindu Talibanis. I don't think it is in any scripture - Even if it is - It shows that Hindus are progressive and don't care about scriptures if it makes no sense!

I am aware that Child marriages in Rajasthan unfortunately. But this is not restricted to Hindus! Muslims and Christians in the region too follow it.

Dowry: This is Indian curse and ailment - not Hindu system! This is rampant irrespective of the religion of the people. As a point in case, It is widely followed in Muslim Pakistan according to my Pakistani friends!

Education: Please note that Ramayana and Mahabharatha are great scriptures - Even a Hinduism hater like you will have to agree that these are master pieces of literacy. These were written by Valmiki, a hunter and Vyasa, son of a fisherwoman - so much for your theory about only Brahmins having education!

History- The Mughals were ruling India before the advent of the Europeans. what role did traitors have in the hand over of power???? How this is realated to Hinduism? Traitors were always there!! From my perspective Nehru was also a traitor who collaborated with British to break India!

Caste system: Caste system has nothing to do with discrimination. Caste system was a superior way of 'division of labor' some what similar to that Adam Smith propounded. Discrimination of the castes were not from the scripture. It is what we have unfortunately followed for our own 'selfish' reasons! This is retrogade practice still prevalent in Hinduism in India! But I am glad I have not seen its ugly head here! One more thing -- Change of religion had very little effect! there are many 'GSB' Christians who are not ready to marry their daughters to a dravidian 'fisher man' christian! I know it well!
Or Ask 'Navayat' Muslims whom they want their daughters to marry! I am not attacking religions here. But saying that it is not the religion but the mind set of people. It is slowly changing - may take a few more decades to change!

Food - Why did you eat Ice cream the last time?? Sacrilege, that is not our culture its Italian????
Again Hinduism has adopted whatever is considered good! For example, Vegetarianism is not a Hindu concept. It is the Jain aand Budhist concept. Majority of the Hindus quickly adopted it (unfortunately equally quicly abandoning it in the name of modernissm without caring why it was adopted)

Alcohol - there is a comunity called the Idigas know for brewing - what are you talking about prohibition??? It is ancient culture.
We are talking about Prohibition because a few people think it is the right thing to do! It only shows that we are ready to go against ancient culture, if that is not right!
Lakshman, India Jan 31, 2009
Raj,

I take back my comments as what you put in was a typo. I am sorry if I was aggressive with my comments.

Good that we are on the same page otherwise.

America is a secular democratic nation like India. America's constitution and its ideals of freedom and liberty as based on Biblical ideas of human freedom.

Christians are the vastly dominant majority in the US, but the society is tolerant and respecting of each individuals freedom to choose the life and faith they please. It is a law abiding society.

Unlike in India where we have RSS and its cohorts free to terrorize the freedom enshrined in the Indian constitution to its citizens, there is no such thing happening in the US as the law is supreme and everyone respects is and is treated fairly under it.

I lived in the US for many years and I am a devout Hindu and I am in awe of what they have achieved, though there are many imperfections, it is a great nation. Our Sangh folks ought to learn something from them rather than propagating hatred and theocracy here.
Bhoj, India Jan 31, 2009
Oliver, No one said that the current christians and muslims are immigrants. However, this religion is foreign to India. Thomas may have come to India, there is a theory that Jesus studied in India about the hindu philosophy..
As Dr. Rajdeep Stated, America and christianity has no relationship, the constitution and the country was not built on Jesus or religion, so why do you bring this up.
If these sene folks were around during the portuguese conversion effort, you guys would have been saved. In this matter they totally failed..
vashal, India Jan 31, 2009
dear mohan, if these outfits doing good for every indvidual rather than treating other religion as their evils then I am the first person to be the part of this outfit. But as human being with concious, look at those brotherin what they are doing and then praise rather than one sided.
Shiva, USA Jan 31, 2009
I love this country for its soceity and its tolerance.There is a long history behind its success and it did pass through years of turbulence and injustice.US has endured and I think we should learn from their experience of religious freedom.There are religious conservatives here but there is a limit to which they can influence the common man.Religion is a totally private matter and it is difficult to beleive the amount of hate and venom I read on this website.
oliver, Canada Jan 31, 2009
Dr. Rajdeep Shetty, USA
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can we go back about 100 years in India and America?? hindus in America are immigrants Christians and muslims are not immigrants in India, (christianity came to India in the year 57 A.D through st. Thomas christs apostle) yet see the difference in both countries!

u seem to be educated still biased, if chrstians are not a majority in USA , tell me which is a majority?? is HSS planning a systematic approach the way Yeddi and Achary are planning in Karnataka?

probably a small minority of this sick class had this venom in them, yeddi and his cheddi gang has allowed it to blossom.
Dr. Rajdeep Shetty, USA Jan 31, 2009
Lakshman:

thanks for pointing it out. I typed it wrong I meant to say the US is not a 'christian country' though majority of americans ARE christians. Yes, the american society is very tolerant. My point was that, though the liberty enjoyed by the minorities in India may not be as much as the US, but it is far greater than that in many other developing nations with similar economic and educational profile...
Lakshman, India Jan 31, 2009
Mr Rajdeep,

Where did your buy your 'DR' Man.

Majority of Americans are not Christians?
Is this what HSS or RSS or whatever you call it has taught you.

Going by your logic majority of Indians are not hindu's either as Hinduism is not being a brahmin.

Instead of having humility for being treated well in a christian country with respect, you are trying to ridicule them. Forget treating minorities better in India, you are not even having the grace to acknowledge that you are treated with grace far more than you deserve there.
Abdul Azeez.K,, U.A.E, India Jan 31, 2009
There is no meaning of comments by Rajdeep.
First of all we have to practice how to leave with a society and within the society.
Mentally development is the key role or all developments. In gulf countries there is no question of Muslims or others, bcoz we the expatriates are second class citizens and we totally treating the same.
even gulf countries or any other countries treating as you say, for us it is not a model.can u assume we are practicing all things by gulf countries.Here we came for making money, and u don't compare the the position of gulf with our own homeland.
om shetty, Kuwait Jan 31, 2009
Still Our Indian Minority Brothers are not happy. Harald & Zaheer The Great peoples of India
R.Pai, USA Jan 31, 2009
"Whole world is one family in the US. But In India according to RSS/Sangh parivar Christians, Muslims and Hindus belong to different families, so beat up people who eat beef, burn people who celebrate Christmas in Orissa and slaughter over 2000 Muslims" - Puttu dinesh.

I'm getting little tired of hearing only one half of the story here. I understand - two wrongs don't make it right.

I’ve made it abundantly clear on how I hate/oppose any groups roaming around ‘delivering’ justice while ignoring Police/Court/Judicial system. However, it’s equally counter-productive, dishonest and dangerous to ignore the root causes/provocations and other factors that led to all these incidents.

First step in healing is to acknowledge mistakes from all sides and start addressing them.

(How about a meeting at Hariprasad over a masala dosa and strong coffee? Smiles…)
Ravi, Australia Jan 31, 2009
Proud to be from the land of the Kamasutra. memoirs eternal are carved on the wall of ajanta, ellora and Belur halebid. The people who have hounoured these terrorists dont know that they are milking a cobra. they have already turned taliban and shortly will decimate the sub continent. Mohan kumar, thank you very much for praising all the terrorist organisations. you have included people who Yeddy disowned.

There is no shame in womanhood nor her freedom. A Woman can learn, earn, rule and enjoy. She is as liberated as a man. who are you to restrict her freedom by supporting Ramasena.

Wake up to India's ancient culture, this is what it is:

Child marriage - Marry your daughter to a old man and he will rape her before she even matures and knows that she is a woman!!!!

Sati system - will your wife jump into the pyre with you????

Dowry - why do you have to sell your daughter??

Casteism - If you are not a Brahmin you will have to eat next????

Education - Kula gothra - you never had a chance to learn if you were not a Brahmin. thank the Europeans for Education.

History- The Mughals were ruling India before the advent of the Europeans. what role did traitors have in the hand over of power????

Origin - what caste are you? are you inferior to any other caste????? If you think you are not, you are breaking the Indian Penal Code.

Dress - do you weat a pair of trousers and a Shirt - they are not our culture - wear lungi from tomorrow!!!

Food - Why did you eat Ice cream the last time?? Sacrilege, that is not our culture its Italian????

Alcohol - there is a comunity called the Idigas know for brewing - what are you talking about prohibition??? It is ancient culture.
Mahadev, India Jan 31, 2009
Puttur Dinesh - Why should HSS have to give a press statement for the mangalore pub attack. The girls and the hotel owners are hindu's. Your kind would have attacked the girls from other religion. Similar to your 'new life' insulting others belief's and gods.
Should we give a statement on the Portuguese who raped and converted your ancestors also?
Elizabeth Sequeira, USA Jan 31, 2009
I hope and pray that HSS will not become a weed among the good grains as it grows.
Dr. Rajdeep Shetty, USA Jan 31, 2009
Zaheer:

Even though America is not a "Christian country", majority of Americans are not Christians and as you said respect other religions. But can you name one country with majority Muslim population that treats minorities fairly. Many of the Gulf countries do not even recognize other religions. Some don't even allow the practice of other religions. Yes, India may be behind the US, a developed country, in the treatment of minorities. But, to put things in perspective, it is far ahead of several other societies.
Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India Jan 31, 2009
Fully endorse Mr. Zaheer's statement. In USA you are treated well and free to practice. Why here in India being Hindus are majority what RSS and its affiliates follow the culture of barbarism by killing minority community people. Who has inculcated this feeling of hatred towards minority? We are glad at least this example which showed on HSS by USA should be learnt and practiced by RSS and its affiliates in India.
Mohan Kumar, India Jan 31, 2009
HSS has been recognised in USA and this is a huge acheivement to the hindu culture accross the globe. Only in India our own Indians do not support RSS and it is politicized and branded as terrorist etc. Long live HSS, RSS, RAMASENA, BAJRANG DAL.
Puttur Dinesh, USA Jan 31, 2009
Sangh is inspired by the idea that the whole world is one family and conducts activities across the United States in order to spread this message widely. Sangh in the United States started in 1989 and today has over 100 weekly meeting centers (shakhas) across USA and it is growing.

Whole world is one family in the US. But In India according to RSS/Sangh parivar Christians, Muslims and Hindus belong to different families, so beat up people who eat beef, burn people who celebrate Christmas in Orissa and slaughter over 2000 Muslims. Probaly the mayor needs to be made aware of the recent violence in Orissa and Mangalore.

If HSS is true to its ideals how about giving press statement against the recent pub attack in Mangalore.
omshetty, Kuwait Jan 31, 2009
GOOD JOB HSS.
Zaheer, India Jan 31, 2009
RSS, See how well you are treated in a Christian country. They are not discriminating against you because you are minority.

Why don't you accord at least similar respect for Christians and Muslims back in India where you are in majority instead of spilling our blood, spreading hate and fear.
 
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