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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
His sons can't speak at all, they are only a bunch of fat, lazy pussycats.
-Jossy
Can you clarify if you are referring to Anita Gowda by any chance? She looks a bit fat. But pussy cat? Far from that. Buffalo is more apt. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Hey Naags
sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
About my movie favorites. I like comedy and some movies based on real stories or close to real life.
the last Hindi movie I watched was DDLJ few months ago with friends. When you
are away from India, all Indian things and traditions look beautiful. some of the things, SRK does in the movie are goofy but its a good movie.
regarding your comment on O trying to please I and the M. You shoudl note that people's lives are not controlled by the government in the US. The government cannot tell people what to do, or not to do. You can do anything you want unless your break the local laws or rules. once people cross the limits the government steps. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Believe me, they will not be able to live very long in denials. There are quite a few Dalith intellectual leaders whom I can not name here, - Bonnie to ORP
Mate, I understand almost all what you say - besides references to people whom you've met.
However, when the other party has closed all doors, windows and all orifices, retracted the antennae and trap doors, battened down the hatches under guise their OWN beliefs, and proclaimed "greatness", besides lotsa other stuff, where is the room for openness?
Ask a pertinent q about using leather in RSS, when they believe that the Cow is their Mom, they say - "Hey, other people use it too"! Talk about the Babri Masjid issue and they turn to stone! They say - go back to history! BLOODY IDIOTS, if that were to be the case, India's Environmental Minister, Jayaram Ramesh, would have declared ALL that land as FOREST land!
Real stuff like abolition of the Caste system, upliftment of the Dalits - making them on on par with others, eradication of corruption and poverty...........(seen Suresh Kalmadi's grin, seen the new CM in place of Shibu Soren, seen Yeddy??)
Plenty of presence of Saffron terror, and YET the debate is on the usage of the word - "saffron" - a color - holy as I'm led to believe by LEARNED people! Santa maria! There have been times my poop has been more saffron than the 'saffronest of the saffron'!
The word Terror is neglected. Sadhu and sadhvi are conjoined - not at birth.... around the girth! But, that's OK. Talk is on "conversion" and beef... diversionary tactics? Sometimes I get confused - will they CONVERT beef into mutton or some form of Soya if at all they manage to ban their holy momma cows? Modi and Advani - butchers, worse than those in Iran......... hidden, and insulated and praised!
Hidden agendas..... lots of them. That's why i said, Bonnie, - Save your breath. The time wont be long when they realize that they can't do ratha and pada yathras for too long! |
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| Smitha Rai, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
read this nagoo beta,
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1918152 |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Must have been pretty traumatic. Ain't it Chris? - Shenoy R. on me watching 'Putani Agent 1 2 3 as a kid.
Trauma at age 9 or 10 while watching a movie - Kannada or not, with your parents and bros in tow? Ye kassa diagnosis, Shenoy'mama?
The truth be told, I quite enjoyed it although now, all that seems a lifetime away. |
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| Guru, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Have you read Bhagavath Gita?-Steve to me.
I am sure, you hav'nt read nor would like to read Gita.
If you had read once, you would have understood and realised what 3 guNas a man acquires by the way he eats and acts, thinks etc
Your religion will not allow you to read the texts of others.
Our culture permits us to read anything + right to critically analyse our scriptures.
But what happens when someone draws few lines in Denmark or a book is written on Code??? Is it not intolerance? |
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| m.hussain, Qatar |
Sep 9, 2010 |
if muslim involved in crime and terorism du u want police to treat them like heores ?.....SHAMSUDIN, INDIAN
read with your open eyes. it was communal riots incedent. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
I did not bother to google it yaar - Shenoy on the spelling of Chef de Partie
Googling is OK for something one doesn't know. But for things one knows, well, it is redundant - esp for spellings! |
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| m.hussain, Qatar |
Sep 9, 2010 |
The Iranian mulla does not have the brains to understand what freedom of speech in the US means......Rajdeep shetty, USA
What about Obama who is condemning quran burning by ignorant US pastor!!! |
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| Dixon, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Does it mean that all these cows, saved from otherwise certain death (to prevent them from getting on to the dinner plates), will end up in brothels too, dear Guru? Steve
Wot a dialogue sir. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
the Florida Pastor has the right to do so under freedom of expression - Puttur Dinesh
So that is according to Right to Freedom of Expression. What does 'Common Sense' say? What does 'Responsibility' say? |
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| Guru, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
BREAKING NEWS - Konkan railway from Abudhabi
Konkan Railway??? Oh! Great to know story behind story and future story.
How come you found VRS? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Just as how the pastor has the right to burn the Koran, every US citizen has the right to burn the bible, Torah or for that matter any other book. These morons belonging to the middle ages will never understand the US society. - Mr. Shetty from the US
How wonderful that you left the Gita outta your list! But that's that's hardly the issue. Right's are something and willfully committing an act that's eons away from the norm, that's something else altogether! Did that miss you? Well, go figure!
Say it again, mate? "Understand US Society"? You are right, nobody can understand them - including folks from the US & West itself. Or else, how would you justify more than a million lives lost in Iran & Iraq?
Any answers to that? |
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| Guru, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Steve,
As you have questioned reasoning naming me, I have the following for your note:
I regret very much to see your ignorance. You may not be from Indian origin.
Just have a visit to Mangalore and go through the history of property documents prior to Indian Independence and conveyed during the time British left India
This has nothing to do with BJP, Congress or politics but the human nature of the powerful and the behavior of exploitation lacking for themselves the sense of moral -
with poor and weak people is the essence of what I wrote.
It is not your fault that behaviour of people does not permit open acceptance of their wrong ancestry. I know from D.P.that many a bangalows in Mangalore have their own history of past. If you are from Mangalore, you may just attempt to check the history of properties! You will at least get good examples and results to convince yourselves.
But do not try to negate as it may open great Pandora box which probably our web masters may dislike publishing.
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| B.P.Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 9, 2010 |
| Sr. Judith, I agree with your views on the present scenario, Thank you for writing such a wonderful message here, how can I get in touch with you? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Pai,
It's indeed from the movie 'Ajeya'.
Here is the link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvWW-H5p5k |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
this was the same Murali from Prema Parva back in 80s, right? I remember the super hit song 'heero, heero, heero...naaane, naane, naane...' - O R Pai
Pai,
I hear 'Prema Parva' for the first time today but I think the song you are referring to is from the movie 'Ajeya'.
'Ajeya' was some double acting movie. The song is on some valley, Murali with both hands raised and both characters are shown in this song along with the female lead. Right? I have a blurred image of that song in mind [Chris, no giggling at the description please!! :-)]
Anyways, thank you for mentioning that song. I wasn't knowing that Murali is the same person who was in that song! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Good one Chris. I feel kids should always be naughty and pranksters. They should make maximum mischieves and create a ruckus wherever they go. So much that people should remember them even after 20-25 years :-)
Coming to our topic of Kannada movies and dialogues, you are right when you mentioned about some of the dialogues. But again, they form a very small percentage. Sample when extrapolated to the entire population can go haywire at times. A researcher would know it better.
For every 'PuTaNi Agent 1 2 3' (I haven't watched it but will go by your words) there will definitely be an equally meaningful and societal message movie like a 'Prathama Usha Kirana' starring Suresh Heblikar, Girish Karnad, Geetha and their acting credentials are known to all. Movies like 'Muttina Haara' starring Vishnuvardhan and Suhasini portraying the tragic life of a Coorgi soldier and how his wife stands by him during his toughest times and helps him recover won a National Award, 'Maanasa Sarovara' (which had the popular song "Neene saakida giNi...") starring Srinath who is a Doctor but turns insane (shot in today's controversial mining zones of Bellary, Donimalai, Sandur, Torangallu), 'Kaviratna KaaLidasa' where our Dr. Raj shows his versatility, a thriller of the jail inmates escaping - 'Minchina Ota' featuring our gem Shankar Nag, Ananth Nag and the ever sobbing Loknath, 'Chinnaari Mutta' a story of an underprivileged boy making it big in the field of athletics in the National level just to name a few.
These are some of the movies which I have watched and were a class. There are others like 'Bhabruvaahana', 'BeDara KaNNappa', 'Jeevana Chaithra', 'Bhakta Kumbara' which I haven't watched but those who have followed Kannada cinema closely hold these movies in high regards for various reasons.
As for the songs, there are quite a few equally melodious ones like "Ravi Verma na kunchada kaley baley saakaaravo...", "Teera biTTu nelada mele doNi saagadu...", "Nanna haaDu nannadu, nanna raaga nannadu................", "Noorondu nenapu edeyaaLadinda haayaagi bantu aanandadinda....", "Tunturu alli neera haaDu..........." and I can go on and on and on... ;-)
Kannada cinema aren't actually the way I projected yesterday. I simply handpicked a few "HaLey paatre haLey kabbiNa haLey paper tara hoyee... ee preeti ee prema balu bejaar kaNa hoyee" type of songs for some laughter. The contributions of Chi. Udayashankar, Puttanna Kanagal, Dr. Raj, Master Hirannayya are all beyond our imagination. Quite a few North Indians know Late Shankar Nag very well and why not, afterall wasn't it he and our own Kannadiga Master Manjunath who popularized the 'Malgudi Days' (I am not taking anything away from R K Laxman) with their acting skills? ;-)
Kannada movies have also been inspired by Kannada Saahitya, which tops the list with 7 Jnanapith Prashasti, highest literary award in India. I don't think if any other language other than Marathi can boast of such an entourage of litereurs starting right from the days of Kumaravyasa to Sarvajna to Basavanna to the modern day Shivarama Karanth and Masti aka 'Kannadada Aasti'.
We Mangaloreans aren't much exposed to Kannada, be it movies or literature. You know it better than me that our cuisines and our sentiments for Kannada are much different than what it is in Bangalore, Mysore, Shimoga, Chickmagalur et al. So different we are that there is no Makara Sankranthi or Varamahalakshmi Vrita in Mangalore (except for the latter which is celebrated by a few Sangha SamsthegaLu in the last one decade or so) which is celebrated with much pomp and gaiety elsewhere in Karnataka.
I have simply put forward what I have read and seen all these years. O R Pai has followed M S Sathyu and Poornachandra Tejasvi, he can write on Kannada authoritatively perhaps. Which are your favourite songs and movies in Kannada dear Pai? |
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| Alfred J. Rebello,, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Government do not alloow residential buildings within five KM radius from NaviMumbai Airport for enviornment and safety - News clip.
This should be followed strictly because all the surrounding land is bought by Politicians, Babus etc. to make huge profit. They know they will get a huge profit once the Airport comes. But who are paying, again the common man. Common man suffers from all the sides. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Just log on to any sight on Pranayama and read - Guru
Guru, the sentiments around seem like a case of "............. PraNaayame VINIYOGAHA" ;-) |
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| Steve, Australia |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Guru is absolutely certain that, because of a momentary lapse in judgment by the East Indian Company firangi William Bentick, the young widows (some as young as 13 years of age, as girls married very young then), the brothels in India are filled up by so many women.
What a horrible thing to say!
Even the Hitler-adoring RSS may not agree with such a horrendous conclusion.
This Guru brings shame on all sensible and civilised Indians.
Will the American Pie and the distant cousin of cat-on-the-hot-tin-roof Vaishnava Deeksha man, Kiran, agree with this Guru?
I am sure they do. But admitting it openly is a double-edged sword for both of them.
So a 'Guru' is propped up.
Never mind. That is Indian Culture.
So, this propped-up Guru thinks that the innocent young girls, widows for no fault of theirs, must be killed. All to preserve honour of the family.
Otherwise, in his opinion, these innocent widows will end up in brothels!
Now the BJP dummies in Karnataka have decided to go William Bentick way for the cows.
Does it mean that all these cows, saved from otherwise certain death (to prevent them from getting on to the dinner plates), will end up in brothels too, dear Guru?
This may be Guru's (Kiran's) Indian Culture.
Sacrifice the innocent girls. But save the cows.
The American Pie finds any harm to the cow is barbaric. But he does not want people to remember Sati.
Hypocrites. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello,, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
One in three Indians are utterly corrupt - News clip.
What about rest? Butterly corrupt? Perhaps yes. We most of the Indians, one way or the other corrupt, it can be by mind, by actions or even in their prayers. I say this because our thinking is always negative about others and I do not blame them because in India one cannot do anything trusting others. We even try to corrupt God by offering him huge money, Gold and Ornaments rather sharing it with needy. Does God need this kind of gesture. Surely NO. He needs our good deeds. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
NAGPUR: Sakkardara police have booked an unidentified woman for allegedly disposing of a newborn infant.
The body of a new born baby was found at Sheela Nagar by the complainant, Sangeeta Dupare (40), a resident of Mhada colony. Sakkardara police station was informed. As none noticed any woman disposing of the body, offence was registered against the unidentified woman.
Read more: Infant's body found - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/Infants-body-found/articleshow/6522378.cms#ixzz0z1Xt8NrW |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Parents booked for abandoning 6-yr-old boy
Tags:medical superintendent|goa medical college|abandoning child
PANAJI: Agasaim police have booked an offence against the parents of a 6-year-old child for abandoning him at Goa medical college (GMC) and hospital where they had taken him for treatment.
Police sources said that the child was abandoned by his parents soon after he was admitted in the neurosurgery ward of GMC.
He was admitted in the hospital with neurological problem. ''The parents admitted the child and left immediately about four months back. The neurosurgeons at GMC treated the child and now the child is fit for discharge. But we can't discharge the child as there is no one to take custody of the child,'' said GMC sources.
Due to this the medical superintendent at GMC wrote to the police to issue an NOC so that the child can be handed over to an NGO for rehabilitation. Based on the letter, the police lodged a complaint and further inquiry is on. |
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| B.P.Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 9, 2010 |
BREAKING NEWS - Konkan railway from Abudhabi has reached Brussels and then to Levern and final destination perhaps will be ALKhobar, Saudi arabia.
WITHOUT PREJUDICE - just for laughs.com |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
| Mr. Puthran, I personally feel in all the wrongs that the adults do the children are the main sufferers. These days people have completely forgotten God people do all wrong things abondon, sell their children for petty money and some even sacrifice their children for wealth and riches, "children who are vulnerable and cannot protect themselves". Some liberated women even young girls smoke and drink and say they should be treated equally like men the result is babies born are either premature or suffering from heart ailments or other serious diseases again some rama senas take advantage of this for political gains. We are so busy with ourselves and running after material things that we do not have time to even smile and look out for someone especially children who is looking at us and pleading for help. How much ever we achieve in life there is no fullstop and when we turn back we have missed all the pleasures of life and family. We throw garbage,spitting and doing other illegal activities thus ruining the environment forgetting that the repurcations of which will be on us. We have stopped fearing God and are living like robots. We have reached such a stage that God also cannot save us. We have to only Pray to God please help humans to save each other. It is our duty to keep our Mother Earth beautiful,peaceful,caring and happy for the next generation. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
It should be "Chef de Partie", Shenoy'mam- Chris
I did not bother to google it yaar.U. Vani will carry intricate details of Obama platter. [Koli khaadya, Bengali sihi tindi, kashmiri pulav etc. Now why Kashmiri pulav? Just think about it] |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Shenoy R. would nod his head disapprovingly at such "goofiness" -Chris
Go ahead. Arre bhai jhoomo naacho gaao. Khoob mazaa karo.Aish karo.Yeh zindagi aakhir jeene ke liye hai.Kal kisne dekhi hai? Kal kya hoga kisko pataa? Abhi zindagi ka lelo mazaa.
PS: Saalgira mubarak ho. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Except for watching the "Putani Agent 1 2 3", as a kid, I don't think I have watched any Kannada movies.
-Chris
Must have been pretty traumatic. Ain't it Chris? |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
There are 30,000 denominations in the US; Catholic Church is the biggest denomination.-K Kamath
Wow! I wonder why so many denominations are there.I always used to think it is mainly Catholics and then Protestants.Now we hear there are 30,000. I have heard of some thing called 'Born again Christian'.To make it to 30,000 I wonder how many times they were reborn.[Like born again and again]
PS: Did you mean some cults like in Wayco Texas few years ago which makes up to 30,000? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
That looks more like a dialogue from some Tiger Prabhakar movie - Nagendra Shenoy
Bang on, Nagendra! That was THE Tiger indeed - a stand-alone breed and species so rare that his loss is irreplaceable! He had everything - muscles - lots of it and all of it was on his middle, flab - on upper arms and chest, solid bone - right between his ears. While his looks could sour fresh Nandini milk, his voice could cure constipation! (No wonder all constipated people used to flock to watch his movies!). His costume/s would do better justice to a peacock and when he danced he was so exquisite that even the Elephants would sit up and ask - "Hey, why is he dancing like us?? Aah, his intelligence - it was so vast and infinite that it was non-existent! In fact, when compared to Prabhakar, Tigers would be look like poor neutered tabbies living off pension!
From my 7th std onwards, we were staying at the St. Aloysius Quarters. Our house and the Compound wall of the Campus was separated by a max of say 10 feet and ditto for the Compound wall of St. Aloy and Hotel Woodlands.
Come wedding time in M'lore (usually coinciding with examination time) the Woodlands Hall used be booked almost everyday. Oh yeah, needless to say - they used to belt out all kinds of songs EXCEPT English. That's when I got an overdose of Kannada songs. You know, the funniest part was that even AFTER the crowd had gone and cleaning-up was being done, they used to blast their stuff.
Imagine somebody yelling - "Nanoo, neenoo ondaada mele, neeneke nannaNey Nooduve" at 11.30 - 12 midnight & even beyond, when you're trying to finish your revision!
I guess it was in my 10th std or so...... those chaps were belting out -"Naane Rajakumara.....naane Beejakumara" at around the usual time -midnight! I had exams the next day and those squeals were getting on my nerves! I mean, imagine having to put up with high vol music right from around 7 PM onwards with no signs of abatement even at 12! Even a metal post would need to see an ENT the next day! Besides that, one could hardly expect me to write "Naane Raajakumara........ tuttoori ooduttha..." when I had to decipher Halekannada, could they?
I had to stop them - hook or crook! So I slipped out of the house, found a couple of right-sized stones and sent them sailing one after the other in quick succession over those coconut trees - and they landed with a wake-up-the-dead THUD THUD.... BHAD on the corrugated roof of the Hall. Now, THAT was sheer music to my ears!
In a flash, the music stopped and in a min a couple of beefy-looking waiters/workers with torches jumped over the compound wall and came to investigate. They saw me on the other side and asked -
"Oi, huduga, neenu illi enu madthiya?"
Me: - "Nange thumba shabdha kelithu. NodliKKe bandhe".
Somebody - "Yaaro B***a namma maadina mele kallu bisadi vodida. Neenu enaadro nodiddiya?"
Me - "Yeenu nodliLLa, aadre haudu, nange kooda shabdha kelithu. Eee kadeindha yaaro vodiddha haage kelithu".
Somebody dutifully flashed his torch in the direction I showed and off they went. And as they went, I heard somebody mutter -
"Balaya Thimma, Venku, Ramu - beesa, beesa.......ayen paTThd ruDD boTTuga"
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"BoTTuni enna para Bata Erme-choli'da Chappal'g ruDD aani ya, enna moke'da Mankuthimma", I chuckled to myself and went home to my books. :)
However, it wasn't "All's well that ends well" as Nitish Kumar said after the recent Naxal hostage crisis ended. (Wonder how on earth how he could have said that after one cop was killed!).
Woodland's continued to belt out some not-so-great songs to downright insipid crap for some months to come until some chap from Alice Manor (The Apartment block right next to the St. Aloysius Campus boundary) complained to the Management Woodlands! That's when they agreed to tone it down after 11 or 11.30 pm! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
I am amazed by your Kannada movie knowledge. I dont' know why I was never a big fan of Kannada movies, probably most mangaloreans prefer Hindi movies over Kannada. - PD
Nope, I'm not a fan of Kannada movies either! Those Kannada dialogues and song & dance routines make the whole of me get an attack of hives! ;)
Except for watching the "Putani Agent 1 2 3", as a kid, I don't think I have watched any Kannada movies.
So how do I know a bit about Kannada film dialogues? The answer is simple although it may sound seriously nutty! My younger bro (A Captain in the Merchant Navy) and I - love to act "goofy" at times whenever we catch up in M'lore, which is usually once or twice a year. So, we put on some Kannada Channel and whenever they sing, play Metallica or Dire Straits or Eagles or some Hard Rock at loud volume and prance around a bit! My nephew finds it pretty much amusing. And when we get a lil tired of prancing, we put off the music and keep our ears tuned-in to some fantastic dialogues such as - "Rascal, I'm a dangerFUL personality" etc. And then we laugh prance around some more! Honestly, you should try it, PD. It is a great stress-buster!
I know, our Dr. Shenoy R. would nod his head disapprovingly at such "goofiness" and dutifully quote some Hindi dialogue such as "Bhagwan ne chaha to sab thik hoga, or ab sabh kuch oopar waley ke haath mein hain! Right, Shenoy R? :):):) |
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| Mumtaz Hussain, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
....finally TATAs, birlas, Bajajs, godrejs ...illgotten money to congress to fight the elections.....BP Puthran
Presently we are inviting multinational companies. We provide them land thorugh SEZ outsting tribals from their homes. |
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| Mumtaz hussain, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
to become a president of America or Europe you need spcial talents participate in several debates, face the distinguished journalists then the people of those countries judge his capability whether the concerned candidate can lead their country or not, .........BP Puthran
In our conttry also has journalist of freedom of press. majority of them inducted into by LK advani while he was leading ministry of information & broadcasting. Now the result is we have freedom of having printing press. |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 9, 2010 |
he is a senior journalist workig for leading news paper in India replied me "it is her Karma"
What a Sadistic and Selfish character your friend journalist is, Mumtaz Hussain??? Shame on him and all those who give such type of answers. Such people can be characterised as a mean and cruel people having no humanity or sympathy. These people are so much brainwashed by some stupid and irrational ideololgies that they cannot differentiate between rationality and irrationality, logic and illogic, sanity and insanity. Shame on all such kind of people. I am not surprised with such characters but angered - not suprised because when it is so difficult for a drug addict to give up narcotic drugs how can these people give up this highly addictive ideological drug that gives them oodles of excuses for the incident you have just narrated.
BTW could you not have given her some money for food or bought some food for her from a restaurant if you were so concerned about her and the kid? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
What about Padavu hills? Say around Eden club where Smitaji frequents at times when she is not in the UAE? - Shenoy R.
Too late, Shenoy'mam! Rama Sene's jobless monkeys have already staked-out that place in every joint from Padavu Hills to Padavinangady, of course in addition to Amnesia, the Liquid Lounge etc. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Add one more layer of goodies to the Obama platter. 'Chef d party' at Bukhara, are you listening? - Shenoy R.
It should be "Chef de Partie", Shenoy'mam. |
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| Steve, Australia |
Sep 9, 2010 |
"You would like to have brothels than a honourable suicide or self immolation by young widows" - Guru sees Sati a better approach than working in brothels.
Dear Guru,
Thank you for your "honourable suicide or self immolation by young widows" as the right and only approach to a woman who lost her husband.
In the past, due to a lack of right medical attention as well as through military service and accidents, many young men would have lost their lives.
Many brides were as young as 13 to 20 years of age.
What you are saying is that the only option available to a 13-20 year old young lady was "an honourable suicide or self immolation". "Either that or brothel".
Are you sure you have given a thought to what you are saying?
I can't imagine a caring father or a brother could not think of some other option.
Do you call such an attitude as the Indian Culture?
Have you read Bhagavath Gita? |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 9, 2010 |
DP Kumar,
The foster boy of communism in CUBA is finally admitting that communism in CUBA is a failure.
Here is the link if you want to read.
Actually, I met an American who personally met CASTRO and what he said I can not reproduce here. According to him, he is now a totally disillusioned man and has turned to religion to find solace.
Here is the link -
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100908/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_fidel_castro |
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| Alfred J. Rebello, , India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
What about Belgium? We see many invitations but no takers.:) - Shenoy.
Shenoy, how do you know? What about VRS? |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Chris,
I do not have any time to waste. Believe me, they will not be able to live very long in denials. There are quite a few Dalith intellectual leaders whom I can not name here, have taken the task upon themselves to smoke the rabbits out of holes. Tantrums of tormented souls would then might become confessionals of a man in hidebound.
Why do you think I used the arguments I used. I am quite aware of where they are coming from and who their godfathers are. I am quite very well knew how to counter it and that is why I did not use any of the time tested arguments at all. Those who are outside USA may not quite well understand why I was using the arguments I was using and it may not have offered any clues.
If you want a tip, just google for SUBHASH KAK and he is just one of the ringleaders, who specializes in Tabula Rasa. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 9, 2010 |
Puttur Dinesh,
Which are you favourite Hindi movies? Contribute to some lighter moments.
The Kannada movie you are talking about is 'Prema Loka' featuring the popular "Bandlu saar... oho... shakuntala.... oho..." |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
to places like Delhi or Mumbai and even Nigeria
- quote from one of the posts today
What about Belgium? We see many invitations but no takers.:) |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
while another died inside water sump smaller than her -P advocate
Have you heard of 'chullu bhar paani mein doob ke marna'? |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
I explained the scene and asked why it is in India like this ?- Mumtaz Hussain
Be the change that you want to see in others is what Mahatma said long ago.
The late B G Mohammed had a piece of art work where he has shown a man peeping into trash can along with dogs at thrown garbage and food.
Helplessness drives people to do things which they normally would not do.[Majboori]
The'Karma' theory is fine when it is applied to others. But when it hits close, different equations come into play.
The people who waste money on lavish spending can donate small amounts to charity for the betterment of such people.'Religious' organisations can come forward to help them. Even the unruly destructive people can help such people to live better. [We are not talking about any sene here by the way]
Even the conscience of this forum has the ability to organise help. She is popularly known as Judith. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Good admins patrolling on Shiradi ghats - Chris
What about Padavu hills? Say around Eden club where Smitaji frequents at times when she is not in the UAE? |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
those were the days when bayammas used to bring them in kaanti to our doors -K shenoy
'Kaanta' laga. Hai re hai reh hai laga. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 8, 2010 |
"ALL Indians must hang their head in shame thinking about Sati. " - Steve alias Ravi repeating his talking points
Hey "Steve",
Sati?? Why are you talking about 'Sati' when I am talking about capital punishment in year 2010? You don't surprise me. Because, your poet friend recently brought up 'child mariage' in response to something that is totally unrelated!! Smiles... |
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| B.P.Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| Mumtaz Saheb, I understand your sentiments my dear brother, those are unfortunate souls looking for food and shelter, this is the nateeza of democracy that we are enjoying today. FYI I dont celebrate independense day at all, do you know who are the beneficiaries of independance, number one its ugly politicians day light robbers, buerocrats, and finally TATAs, birlas, Bajajs, godrejs, (for many years common man was denied bank loans to start his own business, we were blessed with Yezdi, enfield byke, match box (padmini cars) and soap boxes(ambassador) because these industrialists were giving illgotten money to congress to fight the elections and now other parties, so indians were fed with russian socialism, now tell me who is benefitting the fruit of independence its only politicians, to become a president of America or Europe you need spcial talents participate in several debates, face the distinguished journalists then the people of those countries judge his capability whether the concerned candidate can lead their country or not, look at our system anyone unfad admi can be the chief minister and PM, this is India Mera Bharath Mahan, Nanna naadu gandada naadu, chinnada beedu, and the same people piss and spit on the road, bangalore has become a open toilet. My heart goes with those unforntunates, I always stop by if I see any old man or woman, sick person and extend my help. I always consider that GOD is kind to me gave me this honour, health wealth, I always put myself into their shoes and think and thank HIM for giving me this opportunity to born to good parents to lead a comfortable life on this planet. Thank you LORD for your benevelence. Coming back to the comments from your friend, it shows their indifferent attitude towards poor people, I pity him, Hope he will not born as a beggar in his next birth if at all there is one. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Dear Poet Bonnie,
Thanks for another zero-calorie post. Nope, I have no illusions when it comes to apologists. However, your non-stop fantasies over my ‘stick’ certainly gave me a few good chuckles here and there...thank you, my friend!
True - the crisp fall air, cooler weather, colors....hmmm...It is a magical season, Isn't it? How can you not step out and enjoy the fresh air? |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
(all capital letters to signify something special?)
-Steve
Kind of capitalistic Sir.:) |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Shenoy R - Why U cannot go to Mohan Bhagwat -V R S
Kya ji yeh jaan aur aana. Ek baar Belgium aao bolti, doosri baar Karchi jao karti. Ek tame pe dono kaise karte hein ji. YA aana nahin toh jaana. Ab gaaana ji. |
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| Chris rego, UAE |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Bonnie,
Plz don't waste your time. This chap has imbibed the best of Western Culture- rabbit skin traps, fluff and stuff, and yet professes to keep in tune with Indian tunes - NDTV or no NDTV!
Glen (Frey) would swoon and croon - The Heat is on! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Good administrators will haul them before court for indecent exposure in public and charge them. Once the court finds them guilty and slaps them with a fine, this type of incidence will become less common. - Shenoy R
Good admins patrolling on Shiradi ghats and ONCE the Courts FINDS them guilty? Hoooooooooo!
Plz, plz, Lord Cornwallis, tell me that you're kidding! Watching too much of AXN, eh? |
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| MUMTAZ HUSSAIN, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
when will we wake up and do some soul searching, we cannot depend upon these corrupt politicians...........BP Puthran
Dear Puthran
Once one fine morning i was walking down the cunnigham street in Bangalore at aroud 9 am from the hotel to visit my freind whos apartment was at walking distance. The act i witnessed was stunning perhaps it is for me bcoz i am an NRI from the last 30 years.
It is said that street is in posh area and the apartment cost about Rs 15,000 per SFT. up and down the street executives with suite and neck ties were moving around the street (perhaps they were going to their office) Let me write what i witnessed on that particular fine winter morning. At a garbage collecting box one lady with an infant on her one arm was trying to pick the food (may be food was thrown there at night before or early morning - i really don't know) from the box by another hand and a little boy (may be her son) around 7 - years old standing by. As she tried to pick up the food next to her a dog snatched it and ran away and when she tried to pick up for the second time the next dog snatches. It was continung like this. i stunned and stopped for a while and watched that scene but no one around looking at her - all were busy walking. however i continued my walking and reached to my freind's house, I explained the scene and asked why it is in India like this ? he is a senior journalist workig for leading news paper in India replied me "it is her Karma" |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 8, 2010 |
May I hope, reasoning will prevail upon your mind and heart? - Guru,
Why are you coughing incessantly. Did the flavour OGGARNE caused your eyes to water; if so, then step aside from my kitchen. I did not ask you to volunteer in the making of any masala. So, why act as a kibitzer. Reason might prevail if you have the will to desist. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Wow Chris
I am amazed by your Kannada movie knowledge. I dont' know why I was never a big fan of Kannada movies, probably most mangaloreans prefer Hindi movies over Kannada.
But I have watched a RaviChandran movie with Juhi Chawla. Are there any good movies. Please let me know. I will watch tehm if they are avaliable on netflix.
Good one Chris |
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| Guru, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Steve,
If William Bentick, has prevented sati as praised by you as a loyal to firangi, he has also created a big RedLight area for poor women including helpless widows.
You would like to have brothels than a honourable suicide or self immolation by young widows.
Western Pimps have no right to talk of Indian women. |
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| Guru, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
"..fight against those do nature's calls on the road side (its disgusting to see these people continue this practise till now) .... I do this whenever I visit India, -@B.P.Puthran KSA
kya bath hai? Its not your post Puthran. |
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| Guru, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
You who are advicing others on PRANAYAMA, sending enough signals to infer that it has not benefited a bit whatsoever, nada, zilch. ???
You appear to be against anything Indian Mr.
Without knowing anything or attempting to realise it, you keep your mind closed.
Sorry to inform you this. Just log on to any sight on Pranayama and read and try to understand who writes of their experiences.
Indian ancestors never kept copyrights. They gave their knowledge and experience for the benefit of all, irrespective of a skeptic, atheist, or a fool. They wanted the future generations to benefit.
Pranayama has no US patent. It is free for all.
May I hope, reasoning will prevail upon your mind and heart? |
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| B.P.Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| Shenoy Maam, I have few friends in Dubai from Jain Community, Rathna Verma(ultra non-veg) is no more and Dev Kumar and Bharath Hegde are still very much in Dubai. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| Shenoy - unsavory character when you have it in Indian politics why to ask with me Shenoy? Mine looter Janardana Reddy carried Sushmas chappal and blind love for Sonia Gandhi by congressmen, killings by communists for political reasons so where else you can find these characters? traitor Mohan acts like he is very patriot but true is he is true traitor in all means. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
but maika lal no one has the courage - We Are Shaky
Yavvooru swami nimdu? Holenarasipura na illa Shidlaghatta na?
It is 'Maai ka laal' buddy.
BTW, news is that you are in UAE. Is is true? Catch up with your old batchmates man. Sandy, Pachchu, Venky, Chirag and that chap who used to come all the way from Kulai in his MACHISMO are all in UAE now. Try catching up with them some time. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Chris,
That looks more like a dialogue from some Tiger Prabhakar movie. Ya ya.. the same man with heavily built body, with a tight brown velvette trousers, cow boy shoes, a thick belt, a necklace with big tiger teeth (2 to be precise) and a head-band with no shirt to flaunt that oily body! :)
I find some Kannada songs to be funnier than the dialogues (bearing Jaggesh, 'Anantana Aawantara' fame Kashinath's movies)
Can anything beat these Kannada LYRICS?
1. "Teenage huDugiya jeansanu kaNDare engage huDugaru tillaaNa tillaaNa tillaaNa....." (SRK aka Shiv Raj Kumar with Deepthi Bhatnagar)
2. "Excuse me Excuse me Excuse me Excuse me Excuse me Excuse me Excuse me... Naa premi nee look me, you catch me, you match me, you use me , you love me, baarammeeee.... HuDgeera noTa yaake heegideee??? Sooryaane chucchu haako haagideeeeeee...... " (Ramya and some shinkiri kaDDi from Excuse movie pichchar)
3. One of the stanza's of our omnipresent Guru Kiran's composition -"Tinnodu baTTaNi, heLuvudu biriyani, kuDiyod sharaabu shendi maadeva....aadre heLodu Whisky Brandy..."
4. When we talk of such lyrics, how can we forget our Ravichandran? This one from one of his movies which is a remake of Hindi movie 'Beta' -"Come'on daarling.. ayyo ayyo! Sittingu daarling... ayyo ayyo! Innenu kelasa nangu ningu.. singu saangu singu... ah daily dingu daangu dingu.."
Contrast these with the yesteryears' "Kumaravyaasana kaavyada chenda... kavi Sarvajnana padagaLa anda..." or the most recent "Naadamaya ee lokavella naadamaya..." of Dr. Raj! And I wonder where the KaRaVe activists are lost now!! :)
Puttur Dinesh, see man, for your sake we have brought some lighter moments back. School bell not yet rung?? |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| Shenoy - I was working in Brussels not anymore I do live in Leuven now, your friend is living in Karachi did you any chance to meet him and your mentor Mohan Bhagwat has good connection with him just verify this information if you had any chance to meet Mohan. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 8, 2010 |
I wonder what my poet friend has to say about this. -Pai,
I must say that, it has still not dawned upon you that nobody is marching to your drumbeat. By now it sounds like you are raising false alarms by beating your drums needlessly and it is falling on deaf ears. I do not in anyway care to shoulder the burden of history and that is why I am not screaming by feeling to bear the weight of the past. So my present moment is all unspoiled and unspotted. You are raising your false alarm at a wrong time and a wrong place, which is so out of place. My advice to you, in the meantime, if you care to take it in you stride (remember you asked me), is to hold your breath down. You who are advicing others on PRANAYAMA, sending enough signals to infer that it has not benefited a bit whatosever, nada, zilch.
In the meanwhile, instead of wasting your energy by marching to a different drumbeat of history, why don't you snuggle up by hugging your drum. It is anyway getting colder and darker by the day and if there is a day, when the sun is out in full, step out of your haunting shadows and enjoy the sun.
OK, dude. Anything more. Enjoy the chill blowing in the thick air and do not fixate upon the scars and pockmarks from the history. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| Shenoy R - Why U cannot go to Mohan Bhagwat and tell him that you are so and so and get introduced and tell him that you are fighting for him even though you are not aware what is he is doing personally. That would be excellent idea. |
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| Ramesh, Lithuania |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| well said, we both think a like I didn;t know I was wasting my time, why not join BJP thats exactly what they are living for,L K ADVANI, UMA BHARATHI and the other lady I,m forgetting her name the charming one with pleasant look,I am sure these party would support you to fill in your vacancey, congress would mislead you to protect their own interst. |
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| B.P.Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| Sr.Judith, thanks for sharing my views, i hope that good sense will prevail upon our people when Kashmir is burning, china is building up its arsnel around our border, ISI is printing Indian currencies and sending it to india through some of its misguided agents, when will we wake up and do some soul searching, we cannot depand upon these corrupt politicians, they let us down for the past 64 years I wish we were still under British rule, atleast we would not have seen so many jokers in our system. touching the superstious beliefs, in the name of black magic, blind belief in some cults, I have seen families fight with each other, suspicios mind broken up relationship, child sacrifice to please some gods, its absurd rituals, we have to educate our people against these blind beliefs. there is nothing as such black magic, etc., its all corrupt mind, and someone with ultra motives of earning money they resort to this kind of practise fooling uneducated poor people. Please I call upon the Mangaloreans to fight against these evils, fight against those do nature.s calls on the road side (its disgusting to see these people continue this practise till now) educate them if you can, I do this whenever I visit India, look at those food carts with flies sitting on them the same food will be consumed by our children why children even the educated class, when will we change? |
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| Steve, Australia |
Sep 8, 2010 |
"It was Raja Ram Mohan Roy and William Bentick who educated the people against this social evil" - I sincerely appreciate SHENOY R's concern on the Sati matter.
Dear SHENOY R (all capital letters to signify something special?)
Thank you for your great comment.
Appreciate Raja Ram Mohan Roy's work in this regard.
But William Bentick?
That is dreadful to hear.
How could a Master of our dear American Pai do such a thing to save the lives of Brahmin women from the cruelty of their dearest male guardians - husbands, fathers and brothers?
All Indians must hang their head in shame.
No, I am not pointing at any particular community (including Brahmins) this time.
ALL Indians must hang their head in shame - regardless of their religious affiliation.
ALL Indians must hang their head in shame thinking about Sati.
How could stoning a stranger compare to burning one's own daughter/sister? What in the world can be a worse thing to happen than this?
Sati was sort of an honour killing.
Would Sati have come to a stop if William Bentick, the head of the East India Company, Pai's Master, just ignored a Brahmin woman's cries?
Dear American Pai,
For just the once, give a bit of rest to your guns, currently trained on the barbaric acts of the faceless Firangi people, and point them to your own dreadfully frozen brains.
Hang your head in shame thinking about Sati, a result of the great Indian civilisation and culture.
Kiran,
Do you think the Udipi cousin of ours, the restless Vaishnava Deeksha man, would have had the courage to reach out to the women forcibly put on the pyre of their husbands?
Or would he have stood back, saying that it is all part of the revered Indian Culture?
Hypocrites. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
A Yusuf Pathan or Robin Uthappa will only be able to hit fours and not sixers.
-H Shenoy
It is better to hit fours and avoid getting caught at the deep. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
I had a jain friend while I was working in Brussels -V R S
Are you not working in Brussels any more? Have you shifted to Karachi? |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
but when these same Indians come back to mother India, they act like spoilt brats, peeing on the sides of the roads just like other resident Indians,-RAKESH
Really? Are you sure? Do you mean to say some where in Charmadi ghat or Agumbe ghat or in Mangalore city? Education is the key. Society has a great role to play in these matters. If you tolerate that kind of behaviour, it continues. Good administrators will haul them before court for indecent exposure in public and charge them. Once the court finds them guilty and slaps them with a fine, this type of incidence will become less common. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
one man came to protest cow slaughtering ban after eating beef. He is smiling.
-Alfred maam
Is it a beefy smile by any chance? What if he had eaten some corns? Would you call it corny? How about some cheese? Cheesy then? What about your favourite dirty animal by the way? |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| Chris - Beef curry - ware waaa kya baat hai - I had a jain friend while I was working in Brussels, he was pure vegetrian and whenever he came to my home my wife would had prepared him veg food, but once we went to pub for drinks he took beef and I was surprised he told that while taking drinks it is ok to have beef, since then I never gave him any veg foods specially prepared he has to eat what my wife had prepared for that day. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
What is the view of RSS on Sati?
-Steve
As long as it does not support it, it is fine. There is nothing to suggest that there is support for it except perhaps your imagination which runs wild.
It was Raja Ram Mohan Roy and William Bentick who educated the people against this social evil.In this day and age if some one still does that, it is unfortunate. I do not think any party is supporting such inhuman act. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Nagendra - I did not claimed that I have written something and said it is my own and made money, it was a news and it can be copied by anyone unless it is restricted. There is difference in it.
Toothbrush- I heard that your Mallya Maam is willing to buy Mallika's toothbrush for 23000 dollars in auction? why cannot you tell him?
I did challenged many in this forum to come and meet me in Belgium but maika lal no one has the courage even your pal 6 digit salary man. |
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| Mario Dcunha, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
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| M.Hussain, Qatar |
Sep 8, 2010 |
About china..........BP Puthran
China is building military might. US is cautious about. to counter China, US and neo-cons is preparing India. From last 10 years India is also building is military might - too much defense spending. Enraged china is building its army around Indian borders. US and neo-cons targetting china using India.
(Hindusthan ke kande pe bandooq rakhkar china ku maro.)
US is coward. They cannot challenge china directly. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
let us together fight the superstious beliefs (causing lot of disharmony among family, friends, we have seen lot of killings in the name supertious beliefs), poverty, diesease, child labor, bride burning there are so many issues, instead of contributing to educate the people, you guys fight with each other, in the name of religion, cow, etc., touch your heart and say how many people are benefitted from you? - B P Puthran
Wise words, Mr. Puthran the day we, hindus, muslims, christians think we are Indians first and help one another that day we will be NO.1 in the real sense in the entire universe. Till then we will only be helping the politicians gather more richness,power and corruption. People should realise the ugly aim of politicians and help one another to build a stronger nation. Till then unhappy fighting and quarelling. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Dear Readers,
Happy Nativity Feast to All. We Pray Blessed Holy Mother to fill our and our family's lives with love, peace, health, happiness and prosperity. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 8, 2010 |
As far as I know, an Indian President's job is to eat desi-ghee ke paranThe, distribute Awards, advise the political parties during elections and rest of the time stroll the beautiful Moghul Garden in the Rashtrapati Bhavan campus. Other than that what is keeping the President busy to take a call on this Bill? - Nagendra
Maybe she REALLY relishes her desi-ghee paranThe with some green-curried Beef. :) |
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| Vimala Naik, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
| I was just searching for Shri Ajit Kumar Hegde, the then lecturer of mine in PUC. I saw him after many years. I am very happy to see him. |
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| Steve, Australia |
Sep 8, 2010 |
"Capital punishment is barbaric. The very thought of putting a human being to death by a 'civilized' society makes me dizzy. I hope that India soon joins those nations who have abolished death penalty. (I know, I know - worms like Kasab make me question my beliefs)
As usual, 'Masters' are busy preaching other countries on how to put a person to death. Stoning or lethal injection -it's just a barbaric practice that has to stop" - Pai never ceases to amaze me with his selective notions on certain communities.
Dear Pai,
How does Sati practice compare to stoning a person to death?
Sati was wide-spread among Indian people, mainly among the Brahmins.
In certain quarters, many attempts are made to keep the practice alive even to this day.
What is the view of RSS on Sati?
Whenever other communities do certain things you find those practices barbaric and abhorent. But somehow you do not condemn very similar practices in India!
Do you think the people in India who condoned Sati were barbaric too? or do you think they were very civilised, because they were Indians and Brahmins? |
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| Prashant, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Sheikh says: we muslims would like to read and understand hindu religious spriptures
are you allowed to read or atleast touch scriptures other than Kuran and hathis. |
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| Prashant, India |
Sep 8, 2010 |
Peter Canada- how about eating some horses, camel, pigs, dogs and donkeys?
Take that GSB bhatta with vinod shetty. you pour three large to gulp and see. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 7, 2010 |
'Kaviratna' Bonnie,
I knew that you wouldn't last too long before getting back to your poetry. I wasn't wrong after all. Smiles...
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
have you come across the songs "kung-fu fighting" and "dance the kung-fu"-K Shenoy to Chris
He was being planned then perhaps.
PS: He definitely knows EYT fighting. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
You know Mohan Bhagwat but does he know you? -V R S
Do I know Mohan Bhagawat? No Sir. I know of him. I hope you know the difference between the two.
You have claimed that Obama and some Moon dancer knows you.
Did you mean to say you know some unsavory character by the way? Your leanings suggest the former. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
But some, like SHENOY R, have got it all mixed up.
-Steve
On the contrary, I think you have your wires crossed friend. No need to teach Bhagawad Geeta. I don't try to impose my beliefs on people. What you said about that line' single mind' etc sounded genuine. If you are unable to accept credit/complement without being nasty, so be it. I will let you deal with your traditional foes. Cheers. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 7, 2010 |
oooops! i missed out some more dialogue from that film, chris. sorry for the slip, but i hope you understand. we are humans after all. - K. Shenoy
That's OK mate! Better late than NEVER & as they say - Realization dawns late!
However, I wish that you has the better sense to refrain from your asking the "el-stupidos" standard set of questions like your esteemed "knowledgeable" ex-commie pal did on my Engg College's choice & that you tooted-in your two bits on a health issue of mine!
I always thought that the onset of the 60's would herald-in an age of wisdom & refrain and lot's of restraint! Look where that misconception has lead elderly folks on EYT? Although they don't openly "accuse" me [cojones missing, is my best guess], they think that VRS, Steve, Ravi, Rai sisters/and God know's who else.... and I are the same!
Even the self-professed GREATchaps from yonder keep digging in and forget their basics - let alone their degree/s! Don't you blessed chaps eat the SAME stuff and grass that the neighborhood cats and dogs relieve themselves on day in & day out? Don't tell me that the turds & uric acid that you (un)knowingly and blissfully ingest gives you'll & especially YOU a painful attack of Gout?
It shows, no matter HOW natural the food is! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 7, 2010 |
That's a good one mate. All of us need lighter moments. However, Kannada film dialogues although in English are simply unbeatable. Hereunder are 2 classic ones:
[1] Rascal, God promise, I will kill you!
[2] Beware kano! I'm a dangerful personality!
All this pronounced with the typical lilt & twang of the typical Gowdas/Kannadigas mother-tongue - Kannada........... Oh boy, that's something else altogether! |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Don't tell me that you elevated me to the status of a "Hero" - be it Comic or otherwise?
oooops! i missed out some more dialogue from that film, chris. sorry for the slip, but i hope you understand. we are humans after all.
i must have added one more dialogue from that fillum(it is as good as any bollywood fillum if you ask me)
"man.....you come right out of a comic book!"
this is what williams(jim kelly) tells han(shih kien), the con man in that fillum in one of the scenes where han corners williams to no end but death.
i have enjoyed the antics by bruce lee in that fillum,
however. the popularity of later days movies with kung-fu theme never remained the same when johnny yune, who replaced bruce lee as peppermint comic hero after bruce lee's death acted in his earlier fillum "they call me bruce".
jackie chan ruled the scene later with his films that are widely accepted universally, making the younger generation forget that bruce lee ever existed.
i don't know if you are a kung-fu buff, chris. have you come across the songs "kung-fu fighting" and "dance the kung-fu" by karl douglas, supported by biddu appaiah, our own pandi kari coorgy man? |
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| Ashraf, UAE |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Guys work on finding top 10 beef exporters in India. more than 50% are Hindus... ....Asim oman
A leading meat supplier from hydrabad to Gulf countreis ""AL KABEER"' exporting beef compnay belongs to Gujarathi HINDU. BJP (Brahmna jatiya party) simply fooling Indians. Why don't they ban beef export from this company??? bcoz he is funding RSS |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| Pai Maam, we dont have to fight with pakistan but they will be finished fighting, killing, maiming with each other, people doesnt pay taxes there, monetary help comes from world bank, America(black mailing, if you dont give us your dollar, we will side with taliban/Alqaeda, and then from Gulf countries plus from poppy cultivation.(for this reason Zia ul Haque was assasinated by CIA) everybody knows about it. the money which you are pointing out here, could have been used to improve the under norished, people living below the poverty line, what a joke on the people those who deposited their hard earned money in Dollars, this shameless government must have borrowed from commercial banks to pay to pakis, (you scratch my back and I will scratch your back)Manmohan or Chidambaram did not bring money from his home, donate to ungreatful pakistan. Coming back to China, Europeans and Americans are paying a very high price now for transfering technology to Red Brigades(bcz of avalilable of cheap labor) These dragons have copied their technology and started mass production using cheap materials and selling 100 USD worth to USD one dollar. Germans have realised their follies and started to manufacture in German only, you will not find chinese products in German shelves. when will the Rich countries woke up from their slumber, dragon started roaring its ugly head. beware world, another Hitler is in the making. |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| My dear brothers and sisters in peace and prayer, please dont fall prey to his trap, he is hiding some where in Peshawar, kandahar, Aden or for that matter may be in Peking, trying to devide us, only communists dont believe in HIS existense. I have friends and well wishers in all the religion I respect the creators children everyone of us came into this world sent by HIM and had taken birth in different religion, caste and creed, Its HE who is our master, guide, let us together fight the superstious beliefs (causing lot of disharmony among family, friends, we have seen lot of killings in the name supertious beliefs), poverty, diesease, child labor, bride burning there are so many issues, instead of contributing to educate the people, you guys fight with each other, in the name of religion, cow, etc., touch your heart and say how many people are benefitted from you? |
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| Gen.Rods, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
What is the population ratio of Muslims and Christians, approx. 8% and 3%? Having this much majority, still Hindus are afraid of their religion ?-Roshan Kuwait
Where? Is it in Gulf?
Just wait for the 2011 head count in India. Then start your action oo11 ;-)) |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| NS Shenoy - I am another half of Krishna who had many girl friends and you did celebrated his birthday ((: did that make you happy. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
V R Shetty,
One has to be careful while projecting other's work as his or her own.
Have you heard of Kavya Vishwanathan, an Indo-American? She wrote a book 'How Opal Mehta got Kissed, got wild and got a life'. Soon it was found that some contents were plagiarized. Owing to a widespread criticism, the publisher recalled the books and destroyed it. You can go through it thoroughly on - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Opal_Mehta_Got_Kissed,_Got_Wild,_and_Got_a_Life
Now they say, "How Kaavya Vishwanathan got rich, got caught and got ruined" :)
So think twice before using somebody else's toothbrush buddy. Atleast ask their permission before using their toothbrush. Least you can do is tell us that you have brushed your teeth using other's brush :) :) :)
And yeah.... is it true that you live in UAE and not in Belgium as you claim? ;-) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Chris,
Look at it this way - Though Bollywood movies are 'full-off crappy one-liners', they can 'diffuse any situation'. It's just how we look at it ;-)
But yes, Bollywood dialogues are truly one of it's own kind. When I was staying in the Hostel, we friends would play some popular Hindi movie dialogues and then translate it into English and try expressing it in the same tone. One of them is as follow -
"Today... you must be very happy. Look!!!!! One who never stepped into your temple... one who never bowed his head in front of you... one who never folded hands in front of you... one who never extended his arms in front of you... that hand... that hand has been extended in front of you today... You must be very happy...!!!! But now when I am here, that lady.... that lady who frequented visits to your temple whenever atrocities on her increased... is battling death... and this is your defeat.... yes... this is your defeat..."
Simply Amitabh from the famous 'Vijay v/s Bhagwaan' scene from Deewar! Thoroughly enjoyable when you are in a group of 6-8 in a single room at about 2-3 AM when the rest of the hostel is in deep sleep! :)
Try catching a glimpse of the Jurassic Parks and the other such adventure movies which are dubbed in Hindi (normally on Star Plus they are relayed) You will laugh your a** out listening to those dubbed dialogues -
Man 1 - "Tum kaha ho.....????" (All dialogues in high pitch and in an Emergency situation)
Man 2 - "Main yahaan hoon...!!!!"
Man 1 - "Paani ka raftaar kaisa hai...??" (You can listen to water gushing in full force as the focus is back on Man 2 who is in some danger)
Man 2 - "Bohat tez..."
Man 1 - "Dheeraj rakho... rassi kas ke pakDe rehna..."
Man 2 - "Mujhe kuch sunaayee nahin de raha.... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.." (And he is either flushed away or some Anaconda eats him up)
Some more from the dubbed clippings, mostly the AXN ones, 'Believe it or not' types videos. A lady explaining a close encounter with some tragedy -
(In a low pitch this time, the character has a pale, dull look. The past trauma is clearly visible on face) "Wahaan achaanak se andhera chaa gaya... Aur mujhe kuch nahin dikhaayee diya. Ek samay toh mujhe lagaa... ki mera antim pal aa gaya... haan... kuch aisa hi laga tha... Maine bhagwaan ko yaad kiya... phir achanak se kahin se aawaaz aaya... main aagey nikli... phir.. phir... pata nahin kya hua.. kisee ne mujhe zor se kheencha.. aankh khuli.. toh main haspataal main thi" (And she breaks down and covers her face with both palms as the crew member supports her by placing her arm over her shoulders)
Some lighter moments on TV :) |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Latest from another Intelectual like YOU.
"With less than three Billion dollars we are going to be a Super-Power overtaking China whose forex is more than three trillion dollars. China did not pay any thing for the flood victim of Pakistan but with this petty forex reserve we granted 5 million and have sanctioned further twenty million. There is a saying in Sanskrit : ''Safari Farfarayate'' .
Think twice, Read and re-read and then write once, only once... dear Puthran. |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
"Wearing pants, using spoons, forks, computers..."
This is called 'Sajjige-Bajil' arguement. By the way, you are not the first one to bring up this question on this forum. I\'ve already written in detail how \'respecting one\'s culture\' is very different from \'forcing one to change his culture\'.
Mr Pai I have not read your \'Kadle-Bajil\' argument, all I infer from your posts is your hate for the white man even as you try to imitate him to the hilt. When you speak about culture you speak as if your culture is different from your fellow Mangaloreans. You seem to have a very rigid view on Culture, more based on your style of living. Anyone who differs irritates you, please correct me if I am wrong.
Mr Pai, imagine I meet you as a stranger in the US, you will first recognise me as an Indian. Next as a kannadiga,then as a Mangalorean and lastly as a Porbu. This is when the differences might start pouring. I hope you see my point. So let us start focussing on our similarities rather than our differences. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 7, 2010 |
One can follow his Masters in his food habits, name, language, dress, lifestyle...but...those ‘pigments’ are a big disappointment -Pai,
Pai - The Mridangam Player,
You seems to have sobered down and stepped out of your hidebound. Did I put too much of masala in my recipe. I thought that I might need to add still more masala to make the air flow with the pungency of smell. There were others who were ready to step up to you kitchen and willing to offer a helping hand if you so desired.
Now the song had to be changed. How about compiling the music for the follwoing song -
Today I sincerely hope
That something of my Truth
Shines through the worst
I may have said or written
Today I sincerely hope
I have not lost myself in
Petty actions of the past
And that someone has seen
Through my life and found me
That is truly me, untouched, innocent
Only waiting to extend the hands of friendship
Unsoiled by writing the words roiled in pettiness
I wonder if anyone has sensed it and the
Immesurable flow of friedship that would
Flow, even when the night falls so hard.
I wonder if anyone has grasped my
Capacity to befriend, despite all the words
I use, so contrary to my very being
Today I sincerely hope that those akin to me
Find me and see something beyond what
I may have said and let my petty actions dissolve
In the ocean of boundless friendship. |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
I did posted that link bcz my pal austin-VRS on himself.
What pal? You are the other half of Austin. Not ram-lakhan, sita aur gita..but Dr.Jackeel and VRS;-)
I am not wrong. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Thanks to 'Vidybhushana' swamiji - O R Pai
Pai,
Don't you think it is now Vidyabhushana 'Swamiji'? ;-)
Pleased to know about your competence with the Mridangam. It has been used to a considerable extent in quite a few Daasara PadagaLu as well. To name a few - "KaNDe na Govindana...", "Dangurava saarirayya...", "Acharavillada naalige...". Hope I have got it right.
I am listening to the YouTube link you provided as I am typing this. I am liking this Remix/Fusion as of now. If I listen to the original song, I am not sure which one will I prefer. The popular "Ayagiri nandini nandita medini...." was also remixed a few years back. My cousins (who were born and brought up in Mysore) did not like it, though I still prefer the remixed version. Same goes with the 'ToTkashTakam' (Flooded all over YouTube as 'Suprabhatam-Remix'!!!) Many have reservations over the Remix versions and prefer the original version. EOD it's individual taste and choice as I see it.
Now, from the link you provided, in the 'Suggestions' section on your RHS, the first song is 'Alaipayutheyyyyy... kaNNaaaa... enai manam alaipayuthey.." (A song devoted to Lord Krishna and also featured in the Tamil flick Alaipayuthey) Have you listened anytime? I was simply lost when I read what it means. Simply lovely and dear to Krishna devotees. The beats of the 'taaLa' (which A R Rahman uses it in most of his compositions) has been the trademark of Tamil music I guess :) |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
U guys think its ur god that is y you dnt wanna Slaughter... -faiz India on slaughter of poor cows.
Yes, you want to eat and finish that Hindu god?? |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
We always prefer to vote for Congress not for others.-Mahadev Naikody (Gulbarga)
Yes, that;s why Gulbarga ranks No.1 in Karnataka in school drop outs and also children who have never gone to school.
Congress has done much good to this State and Nation that we do not have poverty. We do not have power shortage. We do not have water problem.
Congress is like God. We depend on that God and find solace.
Be happy with the corrupt party. |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
10 beef exporters in India. more than 50% are Hindus... "-@Asim, Oman
That's why a total ban on slaughter is recommended.
Theft and Slaughter of cow in Karnataka is different from Export from India.
You eat Beef and enjoy in Oman. Invite few daily beef eaters from this side and host iftar parties too. There is no ban on them;-O |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 7, 2010 |
hello, ok you asked me which God I am talking about yes I am talking about Christianity their selfless sacrifice for the human being, their caring, and assuring words, and power of GOD bestowed on them, Jesus was the one Who saved my life and my family.
we do attend the prayer service, you want to know readings from Bible?
enough is enough, now its my turn to engage you where ever you are. Praise the LORD. |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| Hello, here in this column I did not abuse nor I indulge in personal attacks like you do, do you feel happy if I abuse RSS or Brahmins? I told you in one of my postings go and join RSS band wagon, Naxalite movement, SIMI, are you blind, didnt you see my writing? you dont even know what is PLC, dont talk about the subject which you dont know. If I abuse some group or community this guys feels happy and enjoys reading, I dont stoop so low like you, sudharjavo beta, otherwise the same hatred will eat you one day, remember. Yes the more venom you spit here make me stronger and engage you anywhere in the world. at least you should have the courtesy to reveal your true identity, I dont want to make myself fool to visit Beligium just because someone invites me without his whereabouts. why dont you understand this simple language many requesting you reveal but everytime you escape with bashing some extremist organisations which is not relevant to me at all. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| Shenoy - is it important? You know Mohan Bhagwat but does he know you? you can follow Barrack Obama on tweeter, may be Nagendra can guide you. |
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| Steve, Australia |
Sep 7, 2010 |
"Hey Steve, now you are finally talking" SHENOY R is finally LISTENning because I said something that touched Shenoy R's heart.
But Shenoy R listening to what?
Listening to his own beliefs coming out of Steve's keyboard.
What a sad world we live in!
We are living in a terribly sad world where we want to hear from everyone around that what WE BELIEVE IN is good. And when everyone says that, we are happy.
This is thinking from the heart. This is for women!
This is definitely not thinking from the mind.
When the Lord of the Universe created two genders, to one he gave the job to think from their heart.
To the other he gave the responsibility to think from their mind.
But some, like SHENOY R, have got it all mixed up.
Dear Shenoy R,
Step back from what you like. Liking is a matter for the heart.
Arjuna was a man of heart. He needed answers.
Krishna was a man of mind. Performing a task was more pertinent to Krishna than whether one liked the outcome or not.
Please read the Bhagavath Gita and understand the message of Krishna.
The message is simple and clear. "Do not follow your heart. Instead follow your mind."
If you truly follow your mind, there are neither LIKEs nor DISLIKEs. And there no jealousy. There is no hatred.
RSS has ALWAYsS been about LIKEs and DISLIKEs. RSS liked Hilter.
RSS hated British. And RSS hated Indian Chrristians and Indian Muslims.
Unfortunately many Brahmins were about the same thing.
Krishna's message is not heard by the mob that thinks from its heart. |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| Prakash, will you please stop targeting muslims, hurting their religious feelings on the ocasion of fasting month of Ramadhan, please let us not provoke any reglions or their faith, you are washing your hands in dirt water, ISI must be enjoying watching us fighting with each other do you know who is our biggest enenmy today? waiting to grab our nation through Naxalism, terrorism, its CHINA YES ITS CHINA, dont forget this dragon has occupied our several million aceres of land, and now trying to bully us. Beware of the threat we are facing, its very serious matter every indian has to think and ponder, stop writing hatred mails tarnishing the good image of Mangaloreans. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
enKK Latha Rai'eren thiKKere itthanDD.-Chris
Latha? Yeh Lataha kahaan se aagayi? Hamne toh socha tha ki aap Smitaji ka dost hai. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
I can boast that I know Barack Obama, German chancellor and even UN Gen Sec also- V R S
The question is, do they know you? |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Nagendra - I did not claim or had patent for the contents I posted. 6 years before I was not active in internet so there is no doubt that you are just living on your assumed world.
I will write as I want to write you better do not look for it if you feel that it is not worth to read it. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 7, 2010 |
BP - why you do not come out of the yoke, I will not bring any cars to the airport why will I? are you my relative? no? and which god you are talking about? 32 millions and 1 for islam + 1 for christian +1 for sikh + 1 for parsi + 1 for jew + 1 for bahai and many more... it will be very difficult job for the GODS to listen your requests. Who is writing half baked knowledge and naive? is it me or you? how is your PLC business in Saudi? and I do not meet any secular with communal mind, you had written one request to Muslims about the terrorism and why not you write same for RSS and much talked about saffron terrorism. I think you are RSS representative in Saudi Arabia and mind you that can be harm for you BP, better you live with peace and hide your RSS love until you are there and RSS will be exposed very soon with sting operation.
I TOLD YOU THAT WE CAN MEET WHILE YOU COME TO GERMANY- WHY YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND SIMPLE ENGLISH PUTHRAN |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| M. Hussain - I did posted that link bcz my pal austin had raised that he never heard about athiests in Muslims and anyone can accept and reject any faiths according to individual wish. |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 7, 2010 |
| Ye Lo, he is going to send us the google map to reveal his whereabouts in Belgium, and give him your flight details so that he will bring his mercedes car to receive you at BRU/DXB airport, ha ha, what a joke? please for gods sake dont share your naive half baked knowledge to anyone its ok we Mangaloreans tolerate you. come out from the yoke, be open, then you come back to me like others who wish to meet me. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
These four govindas will not WALK again
Alarmed at the spate of accidents, city’s top neurosurgeon, in consultation with his colleagues, sends a strongly-worded letter to the Health Minister asking for saftey measures for the participants
On a late Monday morning in Worli's lower-middle-class Jambori Maidan area, a hoarding announcing Rs 25 lakh prize for the Nationalist Congress Party politician Sachin Ahir's dahi handi flutters aimlessly. Just 20 minutes' drive away, constable Ajay Gangan, 40, of Abhinandan Krida Mandal, Kala Chowkie, is lying in KEM Hospital's ward no 37.
He and his team-mates had dreamt of winning the bumper prize. On Sunday, doctors broke the news to his wife, Anagha — having shattered his backbone crushed under the weight of 15 of his team-mates who came crumbling down on him while attempting a nine-tier pyramid to reach Ahir’s handi, Ajay will never be able to walk again.
And that’s bad news only half told — even lifting a finger is not going to be possible for Ajay. Not at least in the near future. In medical terms, his condition is called quadriplegia — paralysis of all four limbs or of the entire body below the neck.
At least six more Govindas in the city have suffered the same fate as Ajay. One of them died on Sunday.
And now, what used to be a few odd voices in the past demanding suitable safety measures at dahi handi sites is turning into a chorus, a bit like the deafening cries of ‘Govinda Re Gopala’ when the bravehearts put their hands and heads together in pursuit of the pot.On Monday, Dr Nitin Dange, associate professor of neurosurgery at KEM and a member of the Bombay Neurosciences Association, wrote a letter to Health Minister Suresh Shetty informing him about the serious, even fatal, injuries suffered by Govindas and how these could have been prevented by employing suitable safety measures and by introducing restrictions on height of dahi handis and their ever-ballooning prize purses.
Among the safety precautions suggested by Dr Dange are:
1. A platform of shock-absorbing rubber around the dahi handi area
2. A net to arrest the fall of Govindas
3. Mandatory use of padded jackets and helmets by all Govindas
Though Shetty has not yet received the letter, he has decided his ministry can no longer remain a spectator. “I have seen a young man turn into a paralytic during dahi handi celebrations in my neighbourhood. This can’t be allowed to go on. I am going to raise this issue in the state assembly and at every level in the government and ensure mandatory safety measures are introduced for dahi handis next year.”
Shetty agrees the steps suggested by the Bombay Neurosciences Association, while not interfering with the thrill of dahi handi, will go a long way in saving precious lives. “I want to also take steps to arrest this mad competition to raise handis higher and tag crazy cash awards to them. I agree politicians are mainly responsible for fuelling this race, but this must stop,” he added.
Rana Chakraborty
Shubhangi Tawde, mother of Mahesh Tawde, 30, a resident of Naigaon police colony, couldn’t agree more with Shetty. Mahesh has been paralysed below waist down after a fall at a dahi handi competition. “I was always against his participation in the competitions. He was to be married in July next year. All our dreams are shattered,” she said.
Dr Pradeep Bhosale, head, orthopaedic department, KEM, said this year the number of Govindas with serious injuries is shockingly high. “Preliminary figures show that the number of Govindas paralysed this year increased three-fold. This is so unfortunate for a festival we all love so much. These were young men with their entire life ahead of them,” he said.
Dr Deepak Palande, vice-president, Bombay Neurosciences Association, said a paralytic is just not an earning member less, he becomes a big drain on the family’s resources. “It’s time we make sure a day’s celebrations don’t turn into a life of mourning for some” |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 7, 2010 |
There is a dialogue in that fillum where Bruce Lee says "Boards don't hit back!" - i read some months ago in eyt. this holds good for comic heroes like chris. - K. Shenoy
Glad to know that it took you Bruce Lee's dialogue to remind you of a "boards" capabilities!
Wow! Don't tell me that you elevated me to the status of a "Hero" - be it Comic or otherwise? However, isn't that a bit too much like a Hindi FILLUM? Nonetheless, I'm tickled pink, mate!
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Puthran - now you are back with BP thats great, I can boast that I know Barack Obama, German chancellor and even UN Gen Sec also, do that make you happy. Let the people give me their flight schedule certainly I will entertain them with my contact details, my contact details are not for sale mind it. I had revealed my place earlier in this forum if you want I can send my location on google map.
I am not interested to meet Achari or his community at all, I only meet man with honor not the man sold his conscience and principles just to please someone and India is known for adultered spirits and you should use the opportunity to meet in while you are in Germany. |
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| M.Hussain, Qatar |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Austin - here is the interesting link for you as you have asked whether there are athiest who are former Muslims also.
"........VRS
Dear VRS, you are posting examples of pak youths turning atheist whos age between 17 - 19 but worlds leading scholars, artist, pope singer, social scientist etc accepted the fact of existence of God either by conversting Islam or having understanding knowledge of Islam. Examples are French physician morris bokayee, American christian scholar Yusuf estee, Cat steven (now yusuf islam), social scientist & editor VT Rajshekhar shetty from Bangalore etc. when compared with genius and giants there is no parellel with samll pak youths. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 7, 2010 |
I am not aware of any ban on it. It is widely available in India and is still used. - Shenoy R. on Calpol.
Right - no ban on Calpol in UK, Ireland, India, Cyprus, China and the Philippines. Anyway, this is what I found regarding a ban on on specific components of Calpol.
Source: http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/calpol/ingredients-and-dosage.html
Calpol contains sweeteners, flavourings, preservatives and colourants to make the product appealing and palatable to infants. These additives include strawberry 'flavouring' and its pink colour comes from carmoisine (E122) which is a suspected carcinogen, banned in Austria, Japan, Norway, Sweden and the US, and linked to hyperactivity disorder. It also contains, Maltitol (a mild laxative), glycerol (E422 - large quantities can cause headaches, thirst and nausea), sorbitol (E420 - large quantities can cause stomach upset), the paraben preservatives methyl parahydroxybenzoate (E218 - suspected hormone disrupter and allergen), propyl parahydroxybenzoate (E216 - suspected hormone disrupter and allergen), ethyl parahydroxybenzoate (E214 - suspected hormone disrupter, banned in France and Australia). |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 7, 2010 |
You have missed a great opportunity of your life time yaar. I thought you reside in the UAE. Don't tell me you have shifted to Belgium. - Shenoy R.
Yaar, you are acting like the UAE is like Wenlock Hospital and somebody barges in and hollers out -
"Indaya Gangu, enKK Latha Rai'eren thiKKere itthanDD. Vode thikkuver ya? Kassa muntha Shenoy'maamu?
Well, UNLESS Sheikh Khalifa has changed the name of the UAE to Belgium, as I pound in my response to you, UAE is STILL UAE and I'm STILL here - Abu Dhabi to be precise! :) |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Bonnie, my poet friend,
As expected, you have stepped up your attacks on me. Also, you are doing a good job of avoiding questions. And, yesss -, you have returned to your favorite hobby of fantasizing about my ‘stick’. Smiles...
I was trying to see if there were any specific questions in your recent post. Most of your post describes how miserable I must be feeling in the land of masters. They are not questions, are they?
I found your recommendation on how I should think of changing the color of my pigments, a very interesting one. Every self-hater probably dreams of doing it so he can finally ‘look like’ his Masters. I wrote about it on this forum a few months ago - One can follow his Masters in his food habits, name, language, dress, lifestyle...but...those ‘pigments’ are a big disappointment. How nice it would be if we can change the color of our pigments, join the ‘elite’ club and feel ‘special’, uh ?
Sure – I have nothing but great respect and admiration towards Masters. After all, they are God’s (I meant the ‘true’ God) chosen race. How can anyone say anything against them? Everything they say and do is right. Let’s follow the great Masters. Come on, let’s hold hands and sing songs...
THAK DHIM DHIM THAK DHIM... |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 7, 2010 |
Jason,
Please don't get upset. Don't think that Kokani can be killed. It can survive as long as we keep communicating and writing.
If whatever is written in any script-Kannada or Devanagari- Konkani language gets impetus. But, the good poems and stories written in Kannada may not enjoyable by those born and settled in other States of India like Goa, Mumbai, Kerala and Andhra.
These Kannada literature are to be again translated in to other scripts. Then there will be limitations after choosing the best ones.
Some people think Konkani language is in use only in Karnataka. Yet, it may difficult for some to get adjusted to and read in Devanagari too.
Ultimately, your view to uphold Konkani in whatever language should not be a barrier holds good. The language should survive. Those people from Konkani speaking families should maintain at least speaking in Konkani at Home. They can avoid speaking in English at homes.
They would otherwise kill their mother tongue. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Folks
I had a busy weekend with wedding and cookouts. But I did go through EYT. Nothing has changed, people preaching religion and bashing each other are very common features. I wish everyone behaved like grown up adults and maintain civility.
Anyways, I will be busy with school tomorrow onwards, I will try to sneak in whenever I can.
Happy fall(season) to everyone. Isn't holi supposed to be very soon? I will go to the local temple and play holi. You all have a good week ahead, happy holi and happy Kural and happy Eid. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
"Someone complained, whenever he sees a mirror, he sees a monkey standing other side" - Alfred J Rebello.
Welcome back, my friend. We miss your posts. Smiles... |
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| Original R.pai, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
"May we know a bit about your tryst with the Mridangam? Where you learnt it (chances are that it is in Mysore during Engg. days)" - Nagendra Shenoy
Nagendra,
Actually it is the opposite. I started my training at the age of 10. It continued for the next 7 years. I had to stop once I moved to Mysore (for Engg) due to various reasons. But, I always kept in touch with a bunch of friends who were equally interested in music. I can also play 'Ghatam' and Morsing (Jew's harp). I am trained in 'Mysore baani' (mysore style).
You brought up a very good point on 'Daasara padagaLu'. In mysore area, as you probably know, there is a huge 'Tambram' (tamil brahmin) influence over the music. In fact, most of the brahmin families living in old Agrahara area are tamil brahmins. (Of course, they migrated long time ago during Mysore maharaaja days and have become very much part of local population). I agree - they still haven't developed whole lot of appreciation towards 'daasara saahitya'. They have the tendeny to prefer the compositions by 'Carnatic trinity' (Shyama Shastry, Muthuswamy Dikshitar and Tyagaraja) over 'Daasara KrutigaLu'.
On the other hand, here in coastal area, most of the GSBs and Havyaka Brahmins from Uttra Kannada/Shimoga area incline more towards 'Hindustani' music. (However, note that Havyaka brahmins from Puttur and Kasaragodu are are into Carnatic music) They certainly made some of the dasa-compositions very popular.
Thanks to 'Vidybhushana' swamiji - 'Daasara Sahitya' is more popular than ever before. To my surprise, even the big names in Carnatic Music circle such as Sudha Raghunathan, Ganesh-Kumaresh, Prince Rama Varma are singing more and more kannada saahitya in their 'Kutcheri's than ever before. These are all good signs.
Okay - here is something for you. I hope you will like this. I'm not a big fan of 'fusion' or 'remix' music. But this one was absoultely stunning without compromising on the 'Bhakthi rasa' - I ran into this when I was searching for different renditions of subbalakshmi's "kurai ondrum illai" song.
Enjoy -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYumhQZBQX0 |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 6, 2010 |
| Hello, I dont want to call you as VRS I know that its your borrowed name, however, people in this column recognised me and I will be meeting regular poster writer Nazeer Saheb on 9th and Mumtaz in Bangalore, and Mumtaz knows my friends in Dubai Afroz, Norman Texiera Qatar, Hotelier Karunakar Shetty, Lekhnath Rai, do you need more references? nobody knows you who you are its mystery, and you invite EYT participants to visit Belgium where in Belgium? its a crude joke to all the Mangaloreans I am hearing for the first time a person inviting to his place without revealing his location address. |
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| BPPuthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Hello, He is the same person bpputhran, you are inviting many EYT participants to visit Belgium without your whereabouts, your address, your email nothing, you are simply known as Voluntary Retirement Service.
i guess you are the most wanted person here, I can get the best of the best wines here in Bahrain, finally definately you may be thinking to visiting your Brahmin friends in India, please let me know your schduled visit and you will be my guest and I can offer best of the best spirit to prepare you to encounter the Acharya and his community including Konkani community. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
an ingredient of the composition of Calpol, give more headaches than it is supposed to cure?
-Chris
Calpol is, manufactured by Burrowes Wellcome, a well known company. I am not aware of any ban on it. It is widely available in India and is still used. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
I haven't have had the fortune of meeting-up with Smitha Rai -Chris
Tsk tsk tsk. You have missed a great opportunity of your life time yaar. I thought you reside in the UAE. Don't tell me you have shifted to Belgium. In any case don't forget that opportunity knocks lightly on the door but temptation leans on the door bell. |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
where is K Shenoy? He muttered something similar to an apology and vanished! Wrote in small letters too
There is a dialogue in that fillum where Bruce Lee says "Boards don't hit back!" - i read some months ago in eyt.
this holds good for comic heroes like chris. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 6, 2010 |
and Calpol so that sneezes are managed and the headache is managed. - Shenoy R
Isn't Calpol (just a Paracetamol) on the list of banned drugs? Incidentally, why would you prescribe a drug (even in jest) banned in the West to a chap who resides in the West? Wouldn't Calpol cause a hyperactive disorder and/or the Glycerol - an ingredient of the composition of Calpol, give more headaches than it is supposed to cure?
No arguments here, Shenoy R coz I'm venturing into your professional domain in which I have no speak-say whatsoever. However, I'm just asking for expert advice on pharmacological compositions, pharmacology, effects of meds on the Human body - esp considering that the metabolic process is unique for every individual around, ethics of the Pharmaceutical Industry in general ad stuff in that vein.
Over to you. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Austin - here is the interesting link for you as you have asked whether there are athiest who are former Muslims also.
I think this is the good sign that these young generation have realized what we are tellingt and whether anyone in this forum will understand that there is no gods or religions everything human made it.
Sushma Swaraj is calling sonia gandhi a foreigner but she failed to understand that Indian culture daughter in law is accepted as daughter and daughter is considered as an outsider and the same lady told that she will shave the head if she loose to Sonia. she is proud of Mother theresa because she is Indian but failed to understand that she was not indian origin - how can we expect from these people to accept the reality that god is not there.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Counter-culture-Many-Pak-youths-giving-up-Islam/articleshow/6503409.cms |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
if I am trying to improve my guitar skills to play some spanish tunes - O R Pai
Good luck with the Guitar, Pai. May we know a bit about your tryst with the Mridangam? Where you learnt it (chances are that it is in Mysore during Engg. days), from whom, till what level you have been? I have lived in Mysore for some time and I have seen the people there prefer Carnatic Music and Instrumentals too. I am not sure if Daasara Padagalu are preferred much as it is in our Mangalore, which owes proximity to Udupi which has a Kanakadasa connection and quite a few Mangaloreans/Udupi'tes popularizing the Daasa Sahitya and making it easily accessible to the posterity. My big big thanks to all those people!! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Chris R and Shenoy R, Nice dialogues from Hindi movies and TVCs. How about this? - Nagendra
Well, some lighter moments are always called for when things go a tad haywire on EYT, Nagendra. After all, Bollywood is full-of crappy one liners and are good enough to diffuse any situation.
Btw, have you noticed how NDTV roped in Gavaskar and Gaekwad to comment on the latest match/spot-fixing allegations on the Pak team? Wonder why they didn't get their usual Ajay Jadeja to flash a few coy smiles along with his comments on TV! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Is it mean, to have a girl friend like Deepika, one needs to be trained by Salman? - Alfred
Not at all, ALL it means is that you have to watch the ad in the context conveyed and after that - everything falls in its own place.
Alfred, bro, welcome back! Look what happened on EYT after you left us for a small-lil-too-long sojourn! Hopefully, some semblance of order will prevail henceforth. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Fake Pai - Why you cannot accept my invitation to come to Begium instead of accusing me.
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 6, 2010 |
| Putran - yours is open book like Tiger woods or Rooney? who is adapting fake names earlier you were BP puthran now you have dropped BP, I had invited you earlier when you do come to Germany visit me in Belgium. You are welcome to Belgiun Putran we can have some best wines in the world and chat a lot. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello,, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Take a look at yourself in mirror. - Bonnie.
Someone complained, whenever he sees a mirror, he sees a monkey standing other side. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello,, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
"First set your house in order" - Bonnie.
How true! Yes, Yes - I fully agree.
Perhaps Bonnie meant owned house and not rented. |
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| Alfred J. Rebello,, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Deepika mera girlfriend aur Salman mera trainer hai...."
Is it mean, to have a girl friend like Deepika, one needs to be trained by Salman? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
What about the vast majority who still practice the caste system?- Shenoy R
Even if caste-system isn't practised, CLASS will divide the people. Is the treatment of people in worship places based on their professional background and the Brand of suit they wear a secret today? Anyways, none can satisfy the entire 100%. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
colonial powers are no different from Mangalore's MSEZ - O R Pai
Pai, how will he see the difference when he probably considers the East India Company to be an elected Government? For all you know, if we were to be ignorant, we would have been made to read statistics and figures of which Princely State voted for which Raja or Nizam, who was the Opposition Leader, how the 'Govt.' once faced a No Confidence Motion etc. And it would have been put forward so nicely that we would have ended up believing that! After all, wouldn't we then be the products of a Sarva Shiksha Abhiyaan or a Rashtreeya Saksharata Mission or RESERVATION students having mid-day meals from Akshaya Patra Foundation or Akshara Daasoha?
For now, let's thank our stars that MSEZ is not considered to be an off-shoot of RSS and that it has an office inside the Banaras Hindu University too! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
The man who accuses others of having imaginary masters is himself having a real european master - Praveen Pinto
Pai is simply learning a musical instrument from Glenn. He is not being taught religion and hatred by Glenn. On the other hand, Pai has only shared a few nuggets of wisdom that has taken birth in India. He has simply put forward some Indian values with his guitar teacher and not any ISM. Why frown at that? |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Thank you Guru. Today when I see our Athletes being involved in doping activities, I feel sorry and feel proud that amongst such dark shades, there are/were also players who were Lion-Hearted like Dhanraj Pillay, P T Usha, Maj. Dhyan Chand. Our sportspersons should take inspiration from two people - One, Leander Paes who came back from a critical brain-related illness when he was in his 30s and then went on to add more to his Grand-Slam tally. Two, Sachin Tendulkar who is the greatest Indian Sportsperson along with Maj. Dhyan but still is modest, has his head on shoulders, willing to learn and maintains high integrity and discipline both on and off the field, both in professional and personal life. He has shown it is not only important to be a good sportsperson but also important to be a good human being.
India should include Sachin's life-story in it's Text Books so that sometime in 2070 times, children won't be deprived from knowing that the world had such a sportsperson once upon a time.
He is in no integrity issues like Azhar or Tiger Woods, no big-mouth like John McEnroe (whom he emulated during childhood days and hence used to wear a headband like JM), no dopestar like Shane Warne or Akthar, no involvement in rat-race like FedEx and Nadal, no involvement in pub-brawls like Ricky Ponting. He is SIMPLY SACHIN. The closest who come to Sachin according to me in these qualities are Pete Sampras and Vishy Anand. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
"Mr Pai you intrigue me no end" - Praveen Pinto, India
Dear Praveen,
Take a deep breath and calm down. Let me clarify all of your doubts, okay?
1) "Wearing pants, using spoons, forks, computers..."
This is called 'Sajjige-Bajil' arguement. By the way, you are not the first one to bring up this question on this forum. I've already written in detail how 'respecting one's culture' is very different from 'forcing one to change his culture'.
When I am in Tamilnadu, I might try to speak in my broken tamil. I might try my spanish language skills when I visit the local spanish store. All these are VERY different from going to a place and trying to change their culture!!
Does this explanation help? Let me know.
2) "When you speak to your european guru about your religious beliefs ..."
See, this is the problem with most of the religious people. They see 'religion' in everything. So, as per your logic, appreciating a 'guru' makes me a Hindu? Look - good values are not limited to any religion. They are universal. If I 'forgive' someone, it doesn't make me a Christian.
My friend - Go out and start learning something new today. If you attend 'yoga' class or 'carnatic' music class, it doesn't make you a hindu. Same way, if I am trying to improve my guitar skills to play some spanish tunes, there is nothing wrong. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Chris R and Shenoy R,
Nice dialogues from Hindi movies and TVCs. How about this?
"Kidhar thi raat bhar? Kis ke saath rang-reliyaan manaa rahi thi? Kaun tha woh? Kaha mooh kaala kar ke aayi hai? Karamjali... janamjali... Bolti kyun nahin? Kya kya sapne dekhe the tere baapu ne..... Ab biraadari mein kya izzat reh jaayegi?? Tujh abhaagan se ab kaun byaah rachaayega? Na jaane kaun si ghaDi mein tumne mere COKE se janam liya!!"
One more - "Judge saaaab!!!... aap BBBBAAR-BBBBAAR ek hi sawaal karenge.. aur mera BBBBAAR-BBBBAAR ek hi jawaab rahega... Maine yeh chori NAHIN KI NAHIN KI NAHIN KI!!" (Or "Main yeh shaadi NAHIN KAROONGI NAHIN KAROONGI NAHIN KAROONGI")
Keep some lighter moments on guys. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
V R Shetty,
These are the sources of your arguments right? Word to word, point by point you have reproduced. Not a single inverted codes or full-stop is edited. This is why PC experts named it COPY-PASTE probably! :)
Anyways, here we go! (I reproduce your most valued COPY-PASTE points within 3 stars which actually under-rates your Google/Bing/Ask Me/Ask your mentor/ityadi skills)
***The Bhoodevatas believe only in destruction. They never-ever did any construction. A careful reading of Indian history will convince anybody of this statement. Read: History of Hindu Imperialism, by a Hindu monk, Swami Dharma Thirtha. (Copies available with us. Rs. 150)***
Copied from - http://www.dalitvoice.org/Templates/april_a2009/editorial.htm
This and the other points are also present in -
1. http://indianholocaustmyfatherslifeandtime.blogspot.com/2009/09/bengali-marxists-are-more-dangerous.html
2. http://palashkatha.mywebdunia.com/2009/04/19/1240079820000.html
3. http://cpedia.com/wiki?q=Mohan+Bhagwat&guess_ambig=Ghulam+Nabi+Azad+Mohan+Bhagwat
You haven't changed one bit man. You are the same as you were 6 years ago!
Aainda kisi ka churaana mat. When you copy-paste word to word, give the link. It is manners. Aankh khol ke dekh lo (Sob sob... I can't even say "Kaan khol ke sun lo") |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Are they all RSS supporters/followers? You are within your rights to criticise any organisation. But do it in a fair way. -Shenoy R.
It looks like you are enlivened(or enraptured by the sound of the music, shall I say) whenever the jugalbandhi partner throws epithets such as masters/brainwash etc, as if when one consumes vitamins. But you get infected when someone replies you in kind. But that is OK, as that is the kind of world we live in today and acid reflux is a universal phenomena. Now, if you want to shout from the top of your lungs, that is fine too, as that might give you some much needed breathing exercise.(PRANAYAMA). In the meantime remember that others need some breathing space too. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Oh pleeeeease!!! Do me a favor - Take a look at yourself in mirror. Do you see a person who is putting down his own country and culture that gave him birth, education, identity, personality and made him who he is today. -Pai,
Pai,
Don't you worry boy, calm down. You appear very fiesty, wielding the stick in your hand to try and have me in submission. I can understand why you are so frustrated. You have a right to be angry for denying you the right to be known as a man from the cradle of civilisation by the so called masters. Oops! I thought I meant civilisation in the cradle ( a.ka. child marriage). And, in the land you now live in, it looks like you don't have any opportunity to wear your traditional attire, which is shorts and cap and take a stck in your hand. And then you have to use the masters language whenever you open your mouth. And to top it all, you have to breathe in the air flowing with the falvor of beef, which is anathema to your very core. So, it is perfectly understandale what your so called masters have done to you and why you are so angry, very angry. But you should not fail to remeber that some of it is brought upon you by your own choice and I do not see any merit in cursing the masters. Whatever be the pain you feel, in my opinion, it is futile to to try and figure out by banging your head with the stick and commit harakiri. If you take any book on history, there has been so much bloodshed, so much evil, so many justces committed, which stands out from the pages of any book. In your zeal to right every wrong, do not get lost in the shadowy images of the past. History is never constant, you see. So you can hope the history to favour you in the very near future. Everyone, of course has a right to live like a troglodyte and who is saying no to that. Now, what is the use of rumbling and walking to and fro on the earth, when the fate of all mankind is tied to death. If you missed the chance to live in this life as you wanted, you can always hope for it in the next one. Oh, I can understand what it is like when the soul is consummed by the smoke of a smouldering fire and the mind is baffled when it fails to find a way out of a situation. You see, you are picking up the fight with the wrong person. But, how can I help you. I am not a servant of the so called masters. If it helps, I could recommend you some solution for the acute pain you feel. You can ask your jugalbandhi partner to inject some harmones and have the color of your pigment changed if that would be helpful to assimilate and mitigate your pain in anyway. Beyond that I do not see how I can be of any help to you.
So, till then don't you curse your masters. Who knows what might befall you in the next life for cursing your masters.
OK, dude. Calm down and rest in peace till then or else if you are inching for a pyrrhic victory, go for it by all means or else you can reach out to your masters and focus on TABULA RASA( latin) to come up with your next post. |
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| Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 6, 2010 |
| Hello, I am not fake like you, whatever had been told and written here are true, mine is a open book anyone can varify, I dont adapt false name or hide my identity, nor I abuse people here, and EYT readers understands pretty well. You will be my guest in Bangalore, visit me in your next trip and see by yourself. I dont have any issues with anyone. |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
I also explained the meaning of \'Gurur brahma gurur vishnuhu..\" to my guru Glenn who is helping me improve my accoustic guitar (spanish) skills. He thought it was very nice.- O R Pai
Oh! what a revelation. The man who accuses others of having imaginary masters is himself having a real european master. Mr Pai you intrigue me no end. When you wear pants you say you wear them to keep yourself warm. but for others you say they are trying to ape their masters. When you use fork and spoon it is out of necessity but for others you will say they are following their master\'s orders.When you speak to your european guru about your religious beliefs you expect to be appreciated, but if it was someone else you would have accused him of proselytising. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Ab sabh kuch oopar waley ke haath mein hain!
-Chris
Itna zor se mat bolo yaar. Nitsua ko gussa aayega.Aapne 'Austin Noronha ko gussa kyon aata hai' film dekhi hogi. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 6, 2010 |
The essence of my post was something else-Bonnie
Perhaps you would care to tell us what was the essence with reference to the caste system Bonnie? You have suggested that RSS should strive to eliminate the caste system. Are you not implying that RSS is perpetuating it? Does it mean that RSS is so powerful that it can do just that? What about the vast majority who still practice the caste system? Are they all RSS supporters/followers? You are within your rights to criticise any organisation. But do it in a fair way.
As far as the antibiotics are concerned, I am sure your physician will not bother top prescribe them for your common cold. All you may need is d Zeet and Calpol so that sneezes are managed and the headache is managed.I hope you will not haul him before the court for being nice to you. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 6, 2010 |
I will not ask you any questions which are below your I/Q. Hey, I have a suggestion though. Why don't you allow your by products to reply some times as you used to do in the past. - Shenoy R.
My "by-products" - sweat, poop etc? Seriously, you really didn't write the above, did you? Coz, if you did, you have honestly questioned your own IQ level! But never mind, Shenoy R, I'll overlook that goofy question!
Oh no! Since I don't have the habit of clubbing or socializing or attending parties, I haven't have had the fortune of meeting-up with Smitha Rai any more than you've had the fortune of waltzing with Penelope Cruz or Pai meeting VRS. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 6, 2010 |
| Kiran Swami - Correctly said so you agreed that you do lack wisdom in religious sermons and you know that religion is just man made to have some money. Thanks for admitting that you too know that there is no wisdom in accepting religions. Good Kiran Swami so we hope that you will not write long sermons here with assumed things. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 6, 2010 |
| Putran - When did you start PBI ( Putran Bureau of investigation), I thought you head a PLC business in Saudi. Did I step into your shoes? Oye I am not bragger like you and I am sure of it. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
"First set your house in order" - Bonnie.
How true! Yes, Yes - I fully agree.
Next time we hear someone preaching us on tribals, poverty and dalits, we should ask them to go back and set their house in order. We should remind them of poverty and lack of opportunity for African-Americans, Hispanics and Native americans. We should also try to explain them how some of the poorest countries were actually 'ruled' by 'Masters' during colonial days. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
"it has still nor dawned upon you that you are making a living in masters country selling your skills and blaming the very country feeds your stomach" - Bonnie getting more and more agitated as he fails to answer any of my questions.
Dude,
Oh pleeeeease!!! Do me a favor - Take a look at yourself in mirror. Do you see a person who is putting down his own country and culture that gave him birth, education, identity, personality and made him who he is today.
Instead, you are blaming me for voicing my opinions? Man - you beat your own masters in the game of 'double standards'!! Very impressive. Is 'hypocrite' your middle name?
I was going to answer two questions you raised. Then I looked at the very next line you wrote - "Let me see how much your fretting and fuming masters have filled your head with trash..."
So, it is clear from your sarcastic, hate-filled tone that you are not truly interested in my answers. So, why should I waste my time, I wondered.
Take a look at my earlier responses to you. I always gave you point-by-point rebuttal. You, on the other hand, consistently ran away from answering the questions. (No surprises there..) Instead of taking on challenges, you would run back to your 'poems' and silly personal attacks reminding me of my highschool days! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 6, 2010 |
The filmy dialogues -Copy Paste from earlier Humour column in Mangalorean.Com - NS
Dead wrong, pal. There are hundreds of sites available and just one such site that I referred to is :- http://www.masalatime.com/?p=11
Doctor Shenoy R, Iski haalat bahot najook hai! Sakt aaram ki jaroorat hai! Jaldi se woh dawayee lao!
Ab sabh kuch oopar waley ke haath mein hain!
Kassa muntha Shenoy'mam? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Have you watched the other ads in that series? - Shenoy R.
Oh yes, all of them in the series and all are pretty impressive. However, the "Deepika mera girlfriend aur Salman mera trainer hai...." is the best. The voice is simply unbeatable! |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
It is boring to hear that old track like the oft repeated 'olave jeevana saakshaatkaara' song being played at Palke Krishnamaachaar hall at Ballal Bagh.[Or Jigi jigiyuta nali from Jenu Goodu] -SHenoy
Arre Baapre, MY THO KALAAS HO GAYA. You spewed so much venom and I did not take any anti-venom? What shall I do now? Call 9-11?
Wrong diagnosis always leads to wrong medicine. The essence of my post was something else. And you prescribed totally different anti-biotics. In real world the doctor could have been hauled before the court for prescribing the wrong medicine. But what shall I do here.I am not sure whose pulse was beating faster or if the gadget was malfunctioning.
Anyway, check the pulse of your jugalbandhi if it is within normal level. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
Pai,
You have been singing paens for your masters. Answer me the following questions
1. What is the philosophy espoused by RSS for its nationalism
2. Did you come to America by your volition or did anyone force you?
Let me see how much your fretting and fuming masters have filled your head with trash Despite using all the metaphores, it has still nor dawned upon you that you are making a living in masters country selling your skills and blaming the very country fees your stomach so much for culture. |
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| Stany D'Souza, USA |
Sep 6, 2010 |
"PAKI IS A CURSED COUNTRY BY MANY WILL BE DESTROYED IN MANY WAYS FLOOD, EARTHQUAKE, BOMBS BY THIER OWN PEOPLE AND MANY MORE. YOU WILL NEVER FIND PEACE TO LIVE BECAUSE YOU STEAL PEOPLES PEACE IN THE NAME OF YOUR STUPID BELIEF OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE" -- Alwyn, India.
A derogative, and stereotypic statement. Hope you find some light at the end of the tunnel! |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
If RSS was such a great(altruistic) organisation as you claim, tell me why do they have not done anything to eliminate caste system -Bon Bon
Bonnie, do you think caste system can be stopped? Are you joking? No political party or organisation will ever be able to do that.More you try for that more will it grow.It is like the dowry system in some communities. Has any one been able to stop it? Why point fingers at RSS for the caste system which existed long before RSS? Is caste system the creation of any particular caste or is it the societal consensus that drives it? Have you thought about the contribution of each community to the society in its own way? No one supports the inhuman way in which the SC and ST have been traditionally looked upon and treated.Does it mean that atrocities don't occur? In fact it occurs in every state regardless of who is in power.A village Zamindaar is more powerful than the MP some times. No point blaming a particular community all the time. It is boring to hear that old track like the oft repeated 'olave jeevana saakshaatkaara' song being played at Palke Krishnamaachaar hall at Ballal Bagh.[Or Jigi jigiyuta nali from Jenu Goodu] |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
I'd say that this ad is one of the best ever!-Chris
Have you watched the other ads in that series? [Gilli daande ka gilli aur salli boti ka salli bhi nahin milegaa. Yakeen maaniye, chaar rupaye mein bahut kuch] |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
pl also tell us what has been done by the Missinary Beggars -OM shetty,
Shetty,
I would usually have not replied to your question. I would answer your question if you answer my question. Who created Daliths in the first place? Smart geniuses like you should be able to figure out, right? Do you mean to say that the caste called Daliths was created so as to be taken care of by others. If others do take care, then you accuse them of converting?
Have you heard of old adage, you can not have your cake and it too. You would also do well to answer as to what has been done by your businessmen, when you call others missionary beggars. First set your house in order. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Such statements are no different from those where people assign a single mind to the entire Brahmin community.
-Steve
Hey Steve, now you are finally talking. Tell it to your Belgian Shepherd. |
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| Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 5, 2010 |
| Pai/Shenoy, please go through Fake/Fekuu's posting dated 29 August the person is infact based either in Dubai or Abudhabi, and the same person you can find here in EYT double roll, closely connected this to this mangalorean.com how far one can evade his true identity, we are all connected with each other, through business, family circles, social net work, and friends. |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
we may disagree with many things but it doesnt mean we need to insult a person.
that's exactly why i suggested that austin noronha needs urgent attention. he may act sober now but he has the tendency to go berserk often.
any good advice from a person with hindu name irritates this self acclaimed atheist.
very strange indeed. |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Is pointing out the irrationality an offence? I am trying here to make people see truth and logic at the best of my capacity.
austin noronha,
before you jump into any conclusion, let me ask you how you got your Passport. There are two mandatory fields to be furnished which i am reproducing here -
2. In case of change of name/surname (after marriage or otherwise with documentary proof), please indicate the previous name/surname in full
14. Are you a citizen of India by: (B)irth/(D)escent/(R)egistration/(N)aturalisation; ……………………
If you have ever possessed any other citizenship, please indicate previous citizenship …………………
now, do you or don't you furnish your birth certificate or marriage certificate to support these queries?
if you do, does that make you a christian by birth?(roman catholic to be specific)
carrying that proof, how can you boast yourself as an atheist? can you throw your birth certificate or marriage certificate into trash and settle down in your field or farm doing agriculture or taking to self-styled profession?
you have embraced a job in a foreign country to earn easy buck and thus you pass on your sermons to unassuming people here who try to bring amicable mood within the mangalorean community.
Well, it is not my passion to dig deep into personal interests of people here. Whether I am a doctor, a male nurse, a bar waiter or a chaprasi in Municipal Corporation doesn't make me low or high.
do the hate posts against individuals in eyt make you any better mr. noronha? if so, kindly come out with your reasoning and how well you can guide them if they don't follow any god or spiritualism.
lastly. it requires guts to stand against one's family, religion or Society. are you strong enough to handle that?
i am practicing that and that's why i have the authority to question you. yet i don't boast about myself being an atheist or rationalist. i believe in coexistence and live-let live policy more that others here. i do get irritated at times by the hypocrisy and thus i retort.
that's all my friend. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
What is this obsession with inviting people to Belgium? Smiles...
Fly to Belgium, visit you and do what? We already know your one-point agenda that you almost repeat at the beginning and end of every single post. What else is there to discuss with you, my friend? --O R Pai to VRS
There is no wisdom in responding to a broken record. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Bahut mazaa aagaya. Khush, Ranga Khush. Keep writing yaar. - Shenoy R.
Arre, maine aap ko kya samja aur aap kya nikle? Lord Shenoy and his faithful sidekick who kicks in sporadically - NS
Shenoy, why don't you say " Paaaaaa" and end the issue?
Btw, where is K Shenoy? He muttered something similar to an apology and vanished! Wrote in small letters too...... Maybe British Petroleum aka BP's [SCADA] system went kaput? |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Bonnie,
1) "Your above statement is reflection of cowardice"
So...calling out your hidden agenda is reflection of my cowardice? wow - It doesn't surprise me!! Didn't you refer to 'high priests' and 'lower castes' repeatedly in your earlier posts? Yea, right - you never talked about brahamanas. Blaming others for your mistake is something you learnt from your 'masters'?? They are pretty good at it.
2) Obama - Racism: You said in your earlier posts that you didn't want to discuss the political circus. Now, you are back at it again!! Let me say this - your comments on Obama are hardly different from Republican / Fox News talking points. I know, I know - you never listened to Rush Limbaugh.
3) "You accuse of westerners dominating the cultures, at the same time doing the very same thing which you accuse of others"
hmmm...what are you trying to say here? Did I ever promote an aggressive approach to go and spread our 'way of life' in other countries? Or, Did I ever promote dominating other cultures with an illegal war OR neo-colonialism?
Do you mind clarifying?
4) "Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel"
I knew that nothihng was safe in your zeal to please your 'masters' by showing total loyalty. No wonder you would put down your own cultural roots and even patriotism if it helps you score a few points!!
5) "Your post betrays your your love for living in west"
Yea? Sure - my post betrays my love for living in west as much as your posts betray your past living in India. That should make it easier for you to understand, right?
One last observation - I notice that you managed to post a response without referring to my 'chaddi' or 'stick' (no imaginations, please). That must be hard for you, uh? |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Steve alias Ravi,
I don't even know where to start after reading your recent post. Clearly, the damage to your mind is way beyond what I was thinking earlier.
1) So, colonial powers are no different from Mangalore's MSEZ ? (oh maan, deep sigh!!!). Let me guess - you spend way too much time reading/listening to Arundhati Roy, right? If you had the slightest understanding of how colonial powers operated, you wouldn't have embarrased yourself so badly!
2) Another embarrassing line you wrote was - "Believe me, other than RSS and its brainwashed chelas, nobody really ever thinks that Europeans considered themselves superior to the rest of the world"
Seriously? Oh man - where do I start, again? Have you heard something called 'apartheid'? Have you heard anything about the racial segregation in North America? Go to google and search for 'cultural genocide'. Seriously - how can you be such a ignoramus?
3) Finally, it didn't really surprise me to read those condescending remarks on Swami Vivehananda coming from you. As I wrote some time back, you and your 'club' would have made similar remarks on 'Chatrapati Shivaji' as well. In your imaginary world, nothing from 'native' can match your superior masters. We all understand your struggle. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
"Guruvina gulaamanaaguva tanaka doreyadaNNa mukuti" - Nagendra Shenoy
That was nice. I also explained the meaning of 'Gurur brahma gurur vishnuhu.." to my guru Glenn who is helping me improve my accoustic guitar (spanish) skills. He thought it was very nice.
Now, compare this to today's rotten student-teacher relationship where we keep hearing about teachers having sex with their students!!! Ayyoo Raaama!! |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 5, 2010 |
NS Shenoy Fake -
You should call these peoples liar no-1
MOhan Bhagwat - for taking kickbacks from ISI and talking sweety sweety with you.
LK Advani - promised to build ram mandir but it still still dream he even became deputy prime minister
Ashok Singhal -for collecting money to build ram mandir still he is sleeping whenever he needs money or mosquito gets into his nose he wakes up from sleep
Achari - for creating more communal distrubance in Karnataka and changing his statement as he likes and acting like he is home minister at his home.
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Nagendra - You should jump in joy for Mohan Bhagwat when he took kickbacks from ISI and other brahmins arrested because of terrorism(:
Killing is not new to RSS. It killed M.K. Gandhi, the “Father of the Nation”, like a dog. (Read DSA book, Why Godse Killed Gandhi?, only photocopy available Rs. 75 and Gandhi’s Murder & After, Gopal Godse, 1989, pp.550). What caused the sudden change in the RSS top leadership is the fear that the “Hindus” are shifting away from BJP and that the party may indeed face election defeat.
The Bhoodevatas believe only in destruction. They never-ever did any construction. A careful reading of Indian history will convince anybody of this statement. Read: History of Hindu Imperialism, by a Hindu monk, Swami Dharma Thirtha. (Copies available with us. Rs. 150).
Brahmin women hated: The latest is the “India Shining” bullshit. They only created this mirage and now they only are replacing it. They never believe in Justice, Truth. Humanity. That they have been so cruel to their own Brahmin women was proved by Dr. Ambedkar himself in parliament when the Brahmin men in parliament including Prime Minister Nehru, a Kashmiri Brahmin, blocked Babasaheb’s Hindu Code Bill.
The abrupt change in the RSS leadership taken over by Mohan Bhagwat, who was sought to be killed by the Abhinav Bharat, and his bitter criticism of the new outfit shows a big power struggle between the two factions: Sacred Brahmins vs. Socialist Brahmins. In his Nagpur speech, Mohan Bhagwat bitterly attacked the Abhinav Bharat and called it “hard-line fundamentalists and secessionists forces who have tried to create an illusionary and self-contradictory lie called Hindu terrorism” (Hindu, March 22, 2009). |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Politics is the last resort for a scoundrel was what was popularly said. _ Shenoy R.
Shenoy R,
I used the word resort instead of using the word refuge. Nevertheless, here is the quote reproduced as it is - Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. And given below is the link if you want to double check
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/samueljohn137080.html
Any more questions/doubts? |
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| Cyril Moras, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
I do not understand in the first place why did Professor Joseph prepare an inflammatory question paper, was it really inflammatory?-Judith L
Nothing of the questions set were published by any newspaper. What I gather from hearsay; that in the lesson there is a biography. But it is silent about the number of wives and children of the hero. It is understood that the Professor included those questions!
Now the college authorities have cut his neck also by suspending him.
We can understand the gravity of future, if such a cult of intolerant people increase in this land. |
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| Guru, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Nagendra Shenoy,
Well written on Group Captain Sachin Tendulkar. I saw his Photograph in the newspapers with that Airforce uniform. Grand. |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Shenoy R,
The filmy dialogues -Copy Paste from earlier Humour column in Mangalorean.Com |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
"It is not only yours, but also the name Raghuvir Shetty is not there in the voters list of Jeppu - NS Shenoy (Nandavar) to imaginary 'VRS'.
wow!! smiles...Can it get any worse?
It's time for him to 'retire' his fake name and stick to his real name. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
"Please treat this as advise and not as insult." - Austin Noronha.
Well, I also have an advise for you. Please stick to the issues, don't drag families into it. You should know better if you are an adult. |
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| Vishal, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Hope your american wife has not seen what you have written here otherwise she would have treated you like a spastic person with a loose & short RSS chaddi and belt made of cow's leather. Please treat this as advise and not as insult.-Austin N.
Dear Austin,
I guess this was bit rude on your part to write about some ones personal life. Anyway we may disagree with many things but it doesnt mean we need to insult a person.
Hope you understand. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
"Not even GCIC for that matter" - Nagendra Shenoy.
True - that's the difference between religious/spiritual groups and political ones. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
It looks like Samuel Johnson was almost prophetic in what he said and I quote here, "Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel" -Quote by Bonnie
Bonnie, Bonnie, go easy man.
Politics is the last resort for a scoundrel was what was popularly said.
If a politician acts Patriotic, that is purely co incidental. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
My dear Nazeer Bhai,
Where are you? Did you watch our Little Master being conferred the Honorary rank of Group Captain? It was a proud moment for me and all Indian Cricket fans. What is your opinion on Sachin? Do you admire him as a player?
Anyways, as a humble fan of Sachin, I have composed a short poem which highlights some very simple achievements of Sachin. Here it goes -
Bees ki umr se pehle lagaa diye tumne shatak chaar,
Desh ko dilaa diya jeet na jaane kitne baar
Maidaan chaahein Chennai ho ya Sharjah, Australia ka toh lagataar bajaa diya band baajaa
Akram ko dekha toh batsmen bolte hai "Kaha hai meri mayya?",
Par tum ne toh khule aam bajaa diya uska THAK THAYYA THAK THAYYA.
Warne se Murali sab bole ki nachaayenge tumko in their spin
Tum ne toh unhee ko nachaa diya THAK DIN THAK DIN THAK DIN
Centurion mein Akthar ko bhej diya over the Third Man for six,
"Oh boy.. how did he Upper Cut that?" asked Lee to Ponting in a fix
Tere balle se runs nikle aise jaise sona from KGF,
Bohat saal tak dhandha paani chalaaya of MRF
Bees saal ke bachche karte hai aaj-kal spot fixing,
Bees saal se tum akeyle ho The Lion King
1 April ko Cochin mein tum ne kiya tha rule, Runs nahin toh kya hua? Paanch wickets leke banaa diya Australia ka APRIL FOOL
Tumhein haraane bohat aaye including Mark Waugh,
Tere chakke par Gavaskar bolta hai "Ho ho ho"
Sab ko pata hai ki Ramakanth Achrekar hai tera Dronacharya,
Prabhu... iss desh ka ab sirf tum hi ho Guruvarya
Kuch din pehle videsh se aaya tha ek langoor
Tum ho toh kyun chahiye humein Kohinoor?
Tera naam itna ooncha jitna hai glacier Siachen,
Sabse Badaa Khiladi ek hi hai - SACHIN SACHIN SACHIN"
I hope you agree with me here Nazeer Bhai. We need more players like Sachin Tendulkar than the Sharmas and the Kohlis aka 'Aaya ram gaya ram'
I hope you are all prepared for the grand Eid festival and will enjoy it with your family and friends. Eid Mubarak in advance. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Bezar maadbedri. Naan hinge keliDDu. :)-Chris Javed
Bahut mazaa aagaya. Khush, Ranga Khush. Keep writing yaar. |
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| Steve, Australia |
Sep 5, 2010 |
"Europeans considered themselves superior to rest of the world. But, they didn't think twice before setting up colonies all over the world and engage in trade. They needed everyone -africans, arabs, indians, chinese, japanese, islanders...everyone!" American Pai has assigned a mind to the Europeans as a community.
Dear Pai,
Such statements are outright dangerous, if not highly inaccurate.
Such statements are no different from those where people assign a single mind to the entire Brahmin community.
Communities do not have a mind. It is the individuals and organisations that do.
The East India Company was an organisation. Just as Mangalore's MSEZ is an organisation.
These organisations can be (and usually are) dangerous. Because they have clearly defined goals. And those goals are often against the survival of the ordinary people.
Regardless of your "broad" thinking...
Could you kindly provide some sources (real historical ones, not Hitler-serving RSS' opinions about British) to tell us, the lesser mortals on EYT, what makes you conclude that Europeans considered themselves superior?
If they did indeed, why did they appreciate the self-styled Shami Bibekanondo, or as some of us know Swami Vivekananda (real name Narendranath Dutta)?
In fact, Narendranath Dutta was a nobody before he addressed the westerners.
As soon as he addressed the Westerners, and came back with tall claims of his achievements (which were hardly cross-checked by the over-awed Indians), Indians thought he was superior! Did they not?
I don't think Europeans ever considered themselves superior to rest of the world. That was the false belief of RSS who did not ever want to challenge the Congress. But they wanted to challenge the British, because RSS THOUGHT that British were somehow superior to the Indian Congress, and by challenging them, RSS was taking on real Masters. How pathetic!
Believe me, other than RSS and its brainwashed chelas, nobody really ever thinks that Europeans considered themselves superior to the rest of the world.
They are people just like everybody else. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Pai - I have challenged others also in this forum to come and meet so they know my real identity always people like you had some excuse to go away.
I had extended the invitation to others also may be you can sponsor them with your 6 digit salary and hope you will do that, send your chelas to me so you can know me. Yes, RSS chelas are cowards no doubt on it. |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 5, 2010 |
austin noronha is totally under the illusion that except him and a handful of jumping jacks,-K Shenoy
What happened to you K Shenoy? Did I say anything to you inadvertently not knowing who you really are? Is pointing out the irrationality an offence? I am trying here to make people see truth and logic at the best of my capacity. I guess you are a doctor with an assumed name and what I wrote yesterday about doctors must have hurt you. How is my guess? Take it easy man. The webmaster is not doing any partiality here, if he had, he would have deleted your offensive comment to me. And about your advise to see a shrink I don't need to as I am mentally sound it's the other way around. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Nonetheless, watch Vodafone's latest ad
http://adgyan.com/vodaphone-parrot-ad-part-2-deepika-mera-girlfriend-hai/
I'd say that this ad is one of the best ever! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Bachche badon ke saamne awaaz uthaate ke baat nahin karte. - Shenoy R.
Varna....... Gabbar ayega?
Anyway, that dialogue reminded of a typical villain's sidekick : "Boss! Maal pakda gaya". By the way, do you write 1 line dialogues for Bollywood in your spare time? You know - those typical dialogues such as:
"Ajji sunte ho, munna ke pitajee "
"Tune yeh kiya to tu mere mara muh dekhegi"
"Mai tere bachche ki maa banne waali hoon"
" Itnay paise tum kahan sey laiye ?"
" Bacchhhhaaaooooooooooo......."
" Police mere peeche lagi hui hai .."
" Tum mere liye mar chuke ho "
" Ghar mein do-do jawaan betiyaan hein"
" Lo! - Muh meertha karo "
" Hato naa! Log kya kahenge "
" Khabardaar jo mujhe haath bhi lagayaa .."
" Aarre! isse to tez bukhaar hai "
" Maa tum kitni achi ho"
" Bhaiyaaa!"
" Yeh aap kya keh rahen hein, bhai sahab?"
" Aaj Pinky ka janam din hai"
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Somehow, those dialogues have an uncanny style that's reflected in your 1-liners and even posts. Bezar maadbedri. Naan hinge keliDDu. :) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Can we expect NDTV to cover this? - O R Pai
Not even GCIC for that matter. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
What is this obsession with inviting people to Belgium? Smiles... - O R Pai
Pai, din't you take a hint when he said "Chris, my mate....." Kya pyar umad raha tha. Aisa lag raha tha ki the Nizam of Hyderabad was inviting the Pathan of Pakistan :)
Btw, Dear We Are *****..... is it true that you reside in UAE and not in Belgium as you claim? :D Have you visited my personal blog anytime? You should do that once :) |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
Fake VRS,
You are LIAR No.1
If you do not know Sadashiva Shetty, you are not from Jeppu.
You are not in Belgium. If you really invited any EYTian to Belgium, you would have given your telephone number at least.
No one in EYT knows you or where you will be available in Brussels.
It is not only yours, but also the name Raghuvir Shetty is not there in the voters list of Jeppu. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
I should admit one thing - you are more candid in acknowledging your allergy towards Brahmana community -Pai,
Your above statement is reflection of cowardice. You are no different than the ones who can not distinguish criticism of Obama and racism. Any criticism of Obama amounts to racism. That is what happens when someone runs out of argument. You must be holding a poor sieve in your hand that you can not differentiate between principle and people. Equating any criticism of RSS with that of brahmins is nothing but time tested ploy to protect the hegemony by other means.
If RSS was such a great(altruistic) organisation as you claim, tell me why do they have not done anything to eliminate caste system. What they are doing is to perpetuate the existing system lest they lose their hegemony using term like Hindus. An ordinary mortal might be fooled into believing that. RSS is nothing more than a private club of hotheads with hatred for people belonging to other religions.
By your standard, Ambedkar must have been the topmost hater of brahmins. This is nothing but a desperate attempt to cling onto the feudal turf which is slipping away fast. I do not care by what name they call the umbrella. I would look at the people gathered under the umbrella.
You accuse of westerners dominating the cultures, at the same time doing the very same thing which you accuse of others.You would do well if you take a good look at your own home turf first. You must be feeling like a fish out of water as you and others like you are experiencing for the first time what the likes of you have meted out to others, which is discrimination. Boy, oh boy, the truth hurts.
It looks like Samuel Johnson was almost prophetic in what he said and I quote here, "Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel", which is certainly applicable to people like you who mouth platitudes galore. If you were so patriotic, tell me what you are doing here. Don't you think that you are depriving your country of your hard work. Dude, don't bring such phony arguments before me. Your post betrays your your love for living in west and you make it sound as if you have become a bonded laborer here. Gimme a break.
Anything more you want to say. |
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| Om Shetty, India |
Sep 5, 2010 |
| pl also tell us what has been done by the Missinary Beggars and 1slamic invaders for the dalits when they ruled our country for nearly 700 years before independence. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 5, 2010 |
"Brahmanas today cross the seven seas, they even wear jeans, jockeys, use toilet paper or even kiss the dollars given by beef eaters." - Praveen Pinto, India
Dear Praveen,
I think you missed the point we were discussing. Bonnie was acting as if Brahmanas still don't drink or eat food cooked/served by lower castes. I was questioning it with a few examples. Now that I have explained the background, you may want to go back and read my post and understand it better?
As to the business and trade relationships with other countries - please note that it always existed irrespective of one's religion and belief systems. Let me end this post with two examples from past and present:
1) Europeans considered themselves superior to rest of the world. But, they didn't think twice before setting up colonies all over the world and engage in trade. They needed everyone - africans, arabs, indians, chinese, japanese, islanders...everyone!
2) In today's situation, Capitalist West, Islamic Arbs and Communist China are three opposing, extreme corners. Still, you see how they are all one big family when it comes to trade and finance, right? |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"Shall I resurrect the dead American Indians?" asks my poet friend Bonnie in a Naïve way.
Well, my friend, it wouldn't be a bad idea if you could do it. If your non-stop obsession with my stick (ok - get your mind out of the gutter now!! smiles...) is any indication, I don't think you have the great power of resurecting the dead. So, here is what you can do: Read history and understand how certain dominant cultures imposed their moral and social values on others in the name of 'modernity and civilization'. Understand how it continues even today in a different ways and forms. Resistance by native people in order to protect their culture is very different from the aggression by dominant forces to spread their way of life.
Is it too much for you to understand? |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"Take this challenge Pai and meet me in Belgium.... just do not be like a coward" - imaginary friend 'VRS'.
Dear 'VRS',
What is this obsession with inviting people to Belgium? Smiles...
Fly to Belgium, visit you and do what? We already know your one-point agenda that you almost repeat at the beginning and end of every single post. What else is there to discuss with you, my friend?
Coward? Oh well - that's okay - You can call me names. It doesn't bother me. There are people on this forum who really want to talk to you/ meet you - you may want to approach them with you real identity.
Thanks for your invite though! :) |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
| nazeer bhai, soon after i replied your mail today, i had difficulty in re-logging into my mail account. i was getting alerts from google about updating my account info, but i ignored it. don''t know what went wrong. i shall get back to you soon, once my mail account is restored. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Those two Dr's are way too good for you, your Lardship!-Chris who believes in Offence as a form of defence
I feel you are dragging Prof B M Hegde's name unnecessarily just to substantiate or retaliate to be precise. Kindly leave out the learned Prof.
Bachche badon ke saamne awaaz uthaate ke baat nahin karte. |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
austin noronha is totally under the illusion that except him and a handful of jumping jacks, all others are fools. this happens when one is hallucinated by neo-rich culture and pseudo-scholar(secular) sense.
his tolerance limit is going hay wire and he is trying to supercede the webmaster this website by snarling at goodhearted peace loving people in eyt. his cacophony has also started resounding in catholic churches of late.
this is not new, but it is rampant and alarming.
may the good lord bless and keep him, if not a good shrink. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"you are telling me that I am an idiot, which was highly offensive" - AS Mathew.
Dear AS Mathew,
I apologize for offending you. It wasn't intentional. I was only criticizing your comment/notion that "it was God's plan to send Sonia from Italy to become future-Prime Minister of India"! And, I still think that any such remarks are truly 'clueless'. We should keep religion out of our govt, right? If we don't, it will open never-ending debate on 'God', 'true God', 'false God' etc. It would be the fastest way to turn our democracy into another Saudi Arabia.
Again - true apologies if I hurt your feelings. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Dear Bonnie,
1) I understand why you think I 'repeat' the same 'old crap'. I also understand why you don't feel the same way with your repeated usage of 'sticks' and 'shorts'!! After all, You, similar to your Masters, follow different standards - one for you and one for others! Smiles...
2) "They are just boys and not grown up men and that is displayed by the dress they wear - which is shorts"
Ok - Is this applicable only to RSS men OR your masters as well? As you probably know majority of the men over here in US/Europe wear shorts especially during Summer. I would love to see you explain how 'RSS shorts' are signs of immaturity while 'Master Shorts' are signs of development, freedom and modern civilization. After all, Masters are always right.
3) Changing tune to 'Thak Dhim' to 'thak thayya'.
Well, both seem to follow 'chaturashra' beats. How about changing it to 'thrishra' ? (It similar to 'huli vesha' beats if you are wondering...) I'm sure it will go very well with your future poems.
One last observation - I don't think you answered any of the earlier questions except for your repeated references to 'shorts','sticks' and what not! I should admit one thing - you are more candid in acknowledging your allergy towards Brahmana community. It all started with 'RSS/VHP' talks and how they are bad for 'secular' India. Now, you are getting more specific. I knew it was coming, but not this soon though! ;-) |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Did you read my reply below to Nagendra? If I say 'Ayyo Devare' OR 'Oh God' - it dosn't immediately mean that I am a God-fearing, temple-attending religious guy. If I call my son a 'superman' - it doesn't mean that I believe in Superman!
Did you SAY something in EYT? I didn't know our EYT has a voice system too. ORP I am budhuram, please tell me how I can listen to your ear splitting ultra sound. Hey ORP please note that you are not talking here but writing here in EYT. You can any time go back and correct your mistake while writing but not when you are talking. Hope your american wife has not seen what you have written here otherwise she would have treated you like a spastic person with a loose & short RSS chaddi and belt made of cow's leather. Please treat this as advise and not as insult. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Take a leaf out of BP's book and learn a lesson or two. - Shenoy R
We have some great Sales Managers in our Fly and YET they can't define the unit of force! Momentum, wow, they ask what's it? Specific gravity is just a S before gravity and don't even know gravity starts with a 9! Ask them the difference between Kpa and KN, they would yank out company manuals/blackberries/Gooseberries and promptly hang-up - of course, no connectivity yaar!
No answers as yet on the pertinent questions and yet, he gets indignant! Mosaru piyonk naa gee amgel Shenoy'maam? TRY harder, Lordship!
Lordship, you equate heading Sales to Hands-on programing logic, although you are clueless on the issue! Now, don't dont talk about the hoards of "programmers" who reside in the US. Ha!
Lord Cornwallis, I have spoken openly about BP's credentials on heading stuff! DP made an ass of himself on that issue, didn't he? A failed commie cashier going totally tech defending what he has no idea about! Now, we have a cardio going mech! What next - a mech engr advising you on the slicing angle of a scalpel? 35 deg or 45 deg - go for between the 5th & 6th rib? Get the drift, Lordship?
Anyway, I don't see any reason as to why you don't take a leaf out of Dr. B. M. Hegde's book or Dr. Purushottham's? Those two Dr's are way too good for you, your Lardship! |
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| Om Shetty, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
version of Om's name had me splits! :):) Can't stop smiling! :):)Chris Rego, UAE
OK Budy i will change my name om to Mathew So u can not splits....
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
You must be referring to the colonialism, slavery, apartheid, religious inquisition (Spanish,Portugese...), cultural genocide, illegal wars etc, right? -Pai,
Pai,
You are back again with stick in your hand, sticker on your forehead and sticking to your guns. Oh, my friend, what shall I do for you.
Shall I resurrect the dead American Indians? No, I can not do that as that is beyond my power. What else shall I do for you. Sing music? There are electronic gadgets readily available for that.
What else can I do for you? By now you must be a wearied man. But that is alright as you have stick in your hand to lean on. If anyone snatched away your stick, you can file a complaint with the police department. At least, here they take it as a cognizable offence. |
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| Tony, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
| If Christians have to tolerate your silly views you have to tolerate the views of Christians. If you dont like it go write your trash elsewhere. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Judith - All religions has devils so you mean to tell that there are many GODS so you mean to tell that there is more than 3.2 million gods to rule this world, they must have fighting like Indian law makers on the floor.
Judith - Tell me which religion is perfect? and why there is no lady as superior power in anyone of the religion? why only men have given super duper power |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Original Pai - What is your vision man? you know only to imagine to have RSS Rastra and only for Brahmins... Pai still I am inviting you to come to Belgium and you can afford with your 6 digit salary and you can even sponsor guru Kiran Swami also in case you want to have debate with me.
Take this challenge Pai and meet me in Belgium.... just do not be like a coward. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 4, 2010 |
N.S Shenoy - ware waaaaa....my email address is not for sale buddy it is not and I am not interested to create another email just for EYTians to communicate with me no, we have given the platform to communicate and that is enough, yes I am much Indian in our locality and I did not claim that I have 6 digits salary as your friend Original pai as informed, but I asked with someone if he is willing to pay that much of Euros for my services in India.
Do you know Jeppu is much bigger than Sadashiva shettys brain he is not wikipedia or Jeppu. Again and again brahmins in the forum proves that they just know to hate and how was your astami of maha play boy Krushna... |
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| Praveen Pinto, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Have you ever been to restaurants in India and seen how Brahmana people eat/drink without asking who is really cooking at the kitchen? -O R Pai
Mr Pai, if a brahmana does not ask who is cooking, he is not doing any favour, he will have to go hungry otherwise. Brahmanas today cross the seven seas, they even wear jeans, jockeys, use toilet paper or even kiss the dollars given by beef eaters. The question is are they doing any favour? |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
1) Have you ever been to restaurants in India and seen how Brahmana people eat/drink without asking who is really cooking at the kitchen?
2) Did you know that 'Dalit' women cook at every local school as part of 'Bisiyoota' program that is promoted/funded by Karnataka State govt ? (Yes, the same Brahmana-dominated BJP govt) All shetty, bhtta, Pai, Rai, DSouza, muslim kids eat lunch everyday cooked by dalit folks.
3) Have you ever been to college hostels where students share rooms without worrying about the caste?
Now, do you realize how stupid you sound when you ask me questions like -"Would you have a cup of any drink with the so called lower castes?" ???? -Pai,
Pai,
How strange you who could compute the item lists and categorize under the progress made, could not compute a similar list from the land you live in.
Is something amiss here. You have right in front of your eyes, the first Black President elect (I used black bcoz, some people don't like the term African-Amercan as his mother was a white American). Have not American Indians alloted their own reservoirs. I can go on computing the lists and it might fill several pages here. The question I asked you was - how does it square away with the questions you raised.
This is what happens if you shake the hands to make a public show and then go and wash your hands in private, which is nothing more than a eye wash.
Your list could be construed as nothing more than a poor attempt at washing away your hands from what is essentially a water tight system.
Your writing is a reflection of what is visible to the eyes from the show your masters make in public. They are just boys and not grown up men and that is displayed by the dress they wear - which is shorts. Who else but boys wear shorts. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
As long as there are clueless people like him who make up good percentage of party supporters, cult of Congress (Indira) will survive.
-O R Pai
Reminded me of that movie where Sanjeev Kumar plays deaf and dumb along with Jaya Bhaduri who is also deaf and dumb. The difference is that Sanjeev Kumar plays an intelligent character and gave a tremendous performance. I will see if I can remember the name of that movie. Thoda Koshish karenge. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Sorry.. that should have read CITIZEN of the US.-Chris
Hey Chris, just tell me one thing. Did you get this information in linkedin by any chance? Shshsh! Be quiet yaar. Don't flip the lid like that. Take a leaf out of BP 's book and learn a lesson or two. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Your latest post reminded me of some Japanese soldier who came out of jungle after hiding for 40 years, still believing that the WW-II was going on!! - Pai,
You are right perhaps as you ought to know better. It looks like your masters have taken a cue from this story and that could be the reason why they still believe that the British are still ruling and go around inciting people.
Well, do me a favor - Stop listning to the propaganda by your masters. Look at the reality here. (Let me help you here! -Pai
You are back again wearing the same old cap and reproducing the same old crap. Did I not say that the stick is for herding the cows and not for keeping the people at bay. Here, you can write winsomely if you realise that the pen(or keyboard) is mightier than the stick. Whatever you try to enforce by wielding your stick may not stick here, however hard you may try and despite being joined by your jugalbandhi partner. It would ultimately end up sounding more like croaking than music.
Remember, how the same Glenn Beck told last week how he wanted to take america back to 'Bible' as massive crowds in DC (OR glued to TV sets at home - Not sure where you were!!) cheered? - Pai,
Leave me out of the political circus. I hardly ever listen to all the blather. You would do well to believe that I have not listened to Rush Limbaugh, not even once in my life time. So keep out of your mailing list, please. I have told you umpteen number of times earlier also. But, you continue with the same old claptrap.
Hope to see you back with more of your quintessential posts. Till then swing your stick and do your dancing to the tune of music playing in the backround.
THAK DHIM.. THAK DHIM.. THAKK THAKK .. DHIMM .. DHIMMM.
Remember to change the tune to THAKKA THAYYA .. THAKKA THAYYA.. THAKKA.. THAKKA ... THAYYA .. THAYYA.. |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
he country wide general strike of the workers on September 7, 2010.
A new beginning in the history of united struggle of workers has been made in September 2009 with almost all the central trade unions in the country deciding to build up a massive countrywide movement of workers and employees on a five point charter of demands. The demands put forward by the central TUs were not the demands of the workers alone. They reflect the demands of every section of the vast majority of Indian masses all over the country. On the issues of price rise, universalising the public distribution system and ensuring food security for all, there have been country wide discussions and debates and also nationwide strikes and hartals. Even the prime minister was forced to accept the seriousness of the situation and express `concern’. But what the government of India has actually done was only adding fuel to the fire of hunger and poverty. |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
A.S.Mathew,
As a human being from India, you have looked at the developments and noted
"How the 2014 date was predicted?
Exactly one year after President Obama is out of the office.
I don't believe in political retaliations, but that game was always the norm in the U.S. politics."
Probably, Fidel Castro's comment made a day earlier that the US and Israel may attack Iran would come true.
D.P.Kumar, do you agree? I read Castro's observations today in the newspapers.
He repeatedly cautions against WMD and building Nuclear weapons by privateers. Their motive will be to sell, whoever dies... |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Shenoy R,
VRS does not know any of those moral stories as he does not belong to that set of people who are brought up in such atmosphere.
He is high fly, rich man drawing 24000 YURose per month and does not keep an address or e-mail id but invites you to the Brussels airport as if he is the main indian there;-))
PS:He claims he is from Jeppu. But Sadashiva Shetty says he does not know anyone by name Raghuvir there for the last 3 decades;-O |
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| N.S.Shenoy (Nandavar), India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Silence any day should be better than ceaseless mantras offered to justify the superiority of appointed high priests to wash way what essentially is nonwashable. @Bonnie USA to Shenoy R India.
Mantras and priests???
Don't you know that
Priests also raise their voice from alter with old biblical bla..blahh;-))
Without knowing mantra or chanting ways, Bonnie playing religious cards attract name penalties. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"Someone might have to come up with a new medicine to keep the haunting ghosts from the past, which just do not go away " - Bonnie to Shenoy
Bonnie,
You must be referring to the colonialism, slavery, apartheid, religious inquisition (Spanish,Portugese...), cultural genocide, illegal wars etc, right?
Yes, yes - we agree. Too many ghosts from the past!! |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"Did you answer my question as to why the ...." Poet Bonnie growing impatient.
Bonnie,
I understand you are busy writing poems complimenting my qualities. However, do you realize that it was me who asked the questions first?
That's alright - we all draw blanks once in a while.
Your latest post reminded me of some Japanese soldier who came out of jungle after hiding for 40 years, still believing that the WW-II was going on!!
1) Have you ever been to restaurants in India and seen how Brahmana people eat/drink without asking who is really cooking at the kitchen?
2) Did you know that 'Dalit' women cook at every local school as part of 'Bisiyoota' program that is promoted/funded by Karnataka State govt ? (Yes, the same Brahmana-dominated BJP govt) All shetty, bhtta, Pai, Rai, DSouza, muslim kids eat lunch everyday cooked by dalit folks.
3) Have you ever been to college hostels where students share rooms without worrying about the caste?
Now, do you realize how stupid you sound when you ask me questions like -"Would you have a cup of any drink with the so called lower castes?" ????
Well, do me a favor - Stop listning to the propaganda by your masters. Look at the reality here. (Let me help you here!)
Remember, how your Master Glenn Beck told his audience how India has no toilets in an attempt to put down our Medical doctors and education system?
Remember, how the same Glenn Beck told last week how he wanted to take america back to 'Bible' as massive crowds in DC (OR glued to TV sets at home - Not sure where you were!!) cheered?
My friend - You can listen to Fox News all day and watch old propaganda movies of your 'Masters' where a "high priest keeps his foot on the neck of a dalit...with thick clouds of holy smoke ..dancing to the rhythm of vedic chants..." OR...
Look at the reality, see how castes have dissappeared in social circles, see how India has more 'IT' folks than 'snake charmers' and stop embarrassing yourself in public forums.
Choice is yours, my dear friend! |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
When the silence breaks, the betaal jumps off the shoulder of Vikram and hangs by the tree at the cemetry. -Shenoy,
Looks like you have good experience visiting cemeteries, by dancing on the graves of dashed dreams buried under since the time immemorial of those who are of lower rungs. Don't you worry, everyone could know, if there is smoke emanating, the fire should be burning somewhere. Silence any day should be better than ceaseless mantras offered to justify the superiority of appointed high priests to wash way what essentially is nonwashable. Such punditry may win few accolades in this age. Perhaps it could almost prove to be nostrum. Someone might have to come up with a new medicine to keep the haunting ghosts from the past, which just do not go away and follow even the distant lands. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"I am not khan I am shetty..." says our imaginary friend 'VRS'.
WOW! This guy is entering a whole new level of hallucination. Interesting... |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 4, 2010 |
God will always protect those who obey his commandments and practice forgiveness.-John Crasta
Enough man, don't give us your sermon here. Just go and see if you can wash your brainwashed brain clean somewhere. This place is for exchanging views and not for proselytising. Go & get a life man, if you can. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Well, I won't be surprised if you post another 'poem' and get back to your 'mouna vruta' instead of answering any of these questions. That's always easier! ;-)-O R Pai to Bon Bonnie Banardhan taramppam pampam pum.
Sounds like Vikram aur Betaal story. When the silence breaks, the betaal jumps off the shoulder of Vikram and hangs by the tree at the cemetry. We used to read' Chala bidada Trivikrama' in Chandamama. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
There definitely should be God -Judith to VRS
Oh my God! Reminded me of the story of 'Angoolimala'. Also reminded me the story of 'Punyakoti' where the beef eating tiger jumps off the cliff committing suicide having a change of heart listening to the innocent but holy cow. Again Bhakta Prahlada. What a story Sir. Hiranya Kashipu just refuses to take VRS and breaks a pillar in the process. Some strange looking animal not unlike a Centaur appears from the inside of the pillar as if it was made in China and finishes off H. Kashipu, I mean it gives him permanent residence certificate in hell.
Yeh kahani sun kar khush toh bahut hoge Chris baba. Shabhaashi dega kyon? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Also, may I remind you that I'm just a resident of the UAE unlike your Lordship who must be a resident of the USA.
Sorry.. that should have read CITIZEN of the US. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Also, please try and ask intelligent questions!-Chris, the sarvajna or sarvara ajja
Did I touch a raw nerve there Chris! In any case don't you worry. I will not ask you any questions which are below your I/Q. Hey, I have a suggestion though. Why don't you allow your by products to reply some times as you used to do in the past. Did you chase them out too by your antics?
PS: Have you met Smitha Rai in UAE by any chance? Say hi to her for me. Will you? |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
One of the five starving girls was raped too
FIR against shelter’s founder Pundalik Gole for repeatedly raping a 14-year-old in his care; another complaint says two other girls were molested at the home
Yogesh Sadhwani
Posted On Saturday, September 04, 2010 at 03:03:00 AM
Just under two weeks after the rescue of 18 malnourished children from a state-recognised orphanage in Shahpur in Thane district, comes another shock -- investigations carried out by the District Women and Child Welfare Department have revealed that one of the girls in the group was raped repeatedly by the shelter's founder Pundalik Gole.
The Women and Child Welfare Department lodged an FIR at the Shahpur police station naming Gole on Friday. A senior police officer said Gole would be arrested as soon as the girl's medical examination report is received from the Thane civil hospital.
In a separate development, the Child Welfare Committee, whose members have been counselling the rescued girls at a shelter for mentally challenged at Airoli, have filed a parallel complaint at the Rabale police station. While this complaint too names Gole for raping a girl, it also talks of molestation of two other girls.
District Women and Child Welfare Department officer Sanjay Shinde confirmed that a complaint of rape has been registered against the founder of the Shahpur orphanage. “My trained staff interviewed the girls. One of them, a 14-year-old, narrated in detail how she was repeatedly raped by Gole.”
Gole remained unavailable for comment on Friday. Repeated calls on his phone went unanswered. Messages left on his mobile phone too did not get any response. Five girls and thirteen boys, aged between 5 and 15, were rescued from the Shahpur orphanage on August 24, a day after Mumbai Mirror revealed the pathetic living conditions at the shelter.
Mumbai Mirror reporters, when they visited the orphanage on August 23, had found four boys and a girl locked up in a dingy room where they ate, slept and defecated. All of them were severely malnourished and had barely the strength to drag themselves across the room. Even eating whatever little they were offered was an effort. The condition of the other children in the shelter was only slightly better.
The caretakers told the reporters that the children were not taken to a hospital when they took ill because "it was all too expensive."
In two months before this newspaper revealed the living hell the orphanage had turned into, five kids had died either of illnesses or hunger. Each time a kid died in its custody, the orphanage notified the Child Welfare Committee and the Women and Child Development Department, but no action was initiated.
In July and August, both the agencies visited the orphanage and noted that the five kids locked in that dark room were in urgent need of medical help. But nothing was done to save them.
After their rescue on August 24, thirteen boys were shifted to a state-run welfare home in Ulhasnagar, while the girls were moved to Airoli.
Meanwhile, the Child Welfare Committee, a quasi-judicial authority, has itself been issued a show-cause notice by the State Advisory Board for neglecting the plight of the children at the Shahpur orphanage.
The orphanage's founder, who now stands accused of rape, and child development officer Sanjay Shinde too have been served notices.
This call for urgent need to see that the children are taken care of in such orphanages. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
| VRS, I have only one understanding that when we can see so many devils around us. There definitely should be God also otherwise whom will the devils retaliate to? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 4, 2010 |
It is obvious that you have lots of reservations about India Chris. Do us a fvour. Just tell us where does your loyalty rest? - Shenoy R.
I ask you to drop-in an age bracket and there you go calling me a middle-aged man! Wasn't it in one of your posts, say 3-4 days back that you'd called me a "sad OLD man" and that too just after you'd mentioned that I was in the 37 - 40 age bracket ? However, I have no issues with that absolutely! Call me whatever that makes you happy and puts you to sleep!
Now, let's move on to "patriotism". Of course I have reservations - to corruption, casteism, dirty politics, lack of infrastructure...... the whole damn rotten works! In that context, didn't our Home Minister, Chidambaram say that there exists "Saffron Terror" in India? Did that make him unpatriotic? He merely stated an existing fact, didn't he? In the same vein, that doesn't make me any less patriotic than you or the next man around. Also, may I remind you that I'm just a resident of the UAE unlike your Lordship who must be a resident of the USA.
What did you expect the Indian's in Kuwait and neighboring countries to do when the Gulf War started? Board a ship and set sail to the US or UK? Where else would they go besides India? Weren't they paying their taxes (minus the Income Tax) in India? Weren't they remitting money to India?
C'mon dear Mr. Shenoy R, you should not ask questions just for the heck of it! Also, please try and ask intelligent questions! It might take a quite a bit of effort in the beginning - especially when you factor in the fact that you'd be just starting. However, once you cultivate the habit, it will become a routine!
Now, please don't come back with some dialogue from Deewar or Coolie!
Cheers |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Even a devil can quote the scripture my dear Lady. That does not mean any thing. So relax and try to fathom the meaning of my post before jumping around and showing misdirected anger.- Shenoy R
That is why I say all devils should not only quote scriptures they should come forward and help each other so that they become angels. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Do you have any answers to these? Well, I won't be surprised if you post another 'poem' and get back to your 'mouna vruta' instead of answering any of these questions -Pai,
Pai,
Did you answer my question as to why the so called divinely appointed high priests keep their foot on the neck of lower castes. No, it is alright for you, as it is always one way traffic for you when confronted by facts. As to your question, paying the benefits to welfare recipients, I have no problem whatsoever, as long as it is taxpayers money. And I hope that includes you as well, if you happen to pay taxes.
Oh man, how could I even anticipate that my post would have the energy and momentum to carry you into another orbit like a rocket by uprooting you by the whirlwinds entering your baggy shorts.
Would you have a cup of any drink with the so called lower castes. When you do that, we would probably could have a meaningful dialogue at the table.
Oh wait a minute .. what was I even thinking ..
Oh, heavens, did I commit a sin by asking you to be seated at the table. How dare me do that. Who libearted me from the shadows of overbearing hegemony of divinely appointed people. Now, whither shall you go to purify yourself. What water can purify you from the spectre of shadow haunting you. What mantras shall you chant to purify yourself from the ignominy, the time has brought to bear upon. Am I not hearing the sound of a thousand chants blowing in the air towards me. Have not all your dreams turned into ashes. Who can tell us, where the world unchained from its past shall now be hurtling, benighting the high and mighty of yesteryears. Would we not be in a perpetual state of daze, moving upwards, downwards, sidewards and northwards. How can the fate be so cruel to to draw the curtain upon the privileges bestowed upon the chosen ones by divine order. How can the times be so unkind to heap such scorn upon the divinely appointed guardians of the old order. Alas, how fast the time which allowed the privileged to sit ensconced on the perch slip away like a fleeting cloud to reminisce the good forunes of yesteryears, where once the mighty reigned unchallenged to take a journey into the unknown, where no one knows what might befall. Where have all the stars gone. Why have the gods who showered such favours, suddenly turned their face against the elected to be left in a befuddled state.Are not the gods angry and what shall we do to appease their wrath. What frgrance shall we burn that the smoke may reach the high heavens and may persuade the gods to bestow the favors upon the mighty into the timeless eternity. Are you not feeling the breath of empty space and sailing adrift in the ocean of nothingness.
Lo and behold, there is a new light shining on the horizons, casting a ray of hope upon the thousands of newly redeemed ones and it is time to awaken to a new dawn. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Do you know why your 'masters' turned their back towards native americans, africans and other native people??
In fact, the political party that is hugely supported by religious people (Republican Party) is against welfare programs to poor people here in USA. Do you know why? - O R Pai
You can ask your masters in USA since geographically you are in better position to ask. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Omie Baba - Did the law find any one guilty in these incidents? - VRS to Om Shetty
Man, VRS, your version of Om's name had me splits! :):) Can't stop smiling! :):) |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Nazeer, you seriously did not say that it is OK for Pakistanis to be killed. I hope not.
Whether Pakistanis, Indians or Saudis life is same for everyone. we have the same body and brain, the only thing that is different is ego and pride.
I think innocent civilians become victims of senseless violence, and it needs to stop. |
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| DONY LOBO, MILAGRES, DOHA, Qatar |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Some quotes on September 3rd in the E.Y.T of someone……read on
"Under the leadership of Vetican agent Sonia and Rahul ji," the congress part
agents like Chidambaram are calling all hindu saints as terrorists, they even have no respect for the saffron flag atop a sacred temple. Digvijay is throwing salt on the wounds inflicted by Chidambnaram, his true agenda is to insult and humiliate all hindus."
Further…..
"cross-bearers killing Hindus in 1000s, in NE states cross-bearing terrorists killing Hindus everyday, 26/11, etc all were committed by Hindus? Be ready to take the same crap back!
"We have not yet paid you full", (ha ha ha …a modern-day Hitler or an absconding patient from the lunatic asylum somewhere from an African Jungle making great predictions or prophesy by posing like a Nostradamus II………)
"Muslims will attack n exterminate some 3 billion people all over the world including India, they will kill lacks in partition, in some 300 riots since 1947 lacs are again killed, everyday a new riot comes up in country started by Muslims, in Gujrat equal no muslims will torch a train full of 59 men, women n children by a mob 2000 tell me they were not muslims n here you are again crying? The crocodile tears wont be now accepted dear! open your eyes and be prepared"
Healthy discussion on religions or each other's beliefs is certainly welcome because it can throw light on many things that may have remained hidden in the dark. But then stooping low to talk in filthy language on Religions as though they are political parties rather than as spiritual entities seems to increasingly become the favourite pastime of one or two genuinely senile contributors in this forum. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"Then again, living in denials has no name nor fame, it just lives on in infamy to rise on another day." - Poet Bonnie
True, my friend. It probably explains why you dissappear when confronted with facts and re-surface later to remind us all how 'brilliant' you are in avoiding questions!! |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"...THAK DHIMM.. THAKKA DHIMM" - says poet Bonnie fully confirming that his understanding of Brahmana people doesn't really go beyond what his masters show in their propaganda movies.
Oh my poet friend,
How was Glenn Beck rally? Did you have fun? Smiles...
Didn't I explain in my earlier posts what your masters did to native americans? Didn't I explain how the same conservative, religious groups with their political party (Republicans) oppose any welfare programs or tax cuts to these poor natives while preaching moral superiority to rest of the world and peddling more mindless wars?
Do you have any answers to these? Well, I won't be surprised if you post another 'poem' and get back to your 'mouna vruta' instead of answering any of these questions. That's always easier! ;-) |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
Do you know why your 'masters' turned their back towards native americans, africans and other native people??- Pai,
Pai,
Do you know why the so called divinely appointed high priests kept their foot on the neck of lower caste people standing on the top of the ladder lest they climb out of the misery.
Dude, I am feeling breathless by the miasma created by your holy smoke. Now, do I not feel breathless by the thick clouds drifting towards me created by your holy smoke. Who would have thought that my post would have you singeing. Boy, oh boy, I could almost envision you dancing with your stick swinging in all directions, chanting .. THAK DHIMM.. THAKKA DHIMM..
Wow, what an inglorious moment that it should rattle your nerves. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 4, 2010 |
"when High Upper Class Brahmins turn their backs towards the suffering of lower class... " Judith continues her 'bhajan'!!
Dear Judith,
Do you know why your 'masters' turned their back towards native americans, africans and other native people??
In fact, the political party that is hugely supported by religious people (Republican Party) is against welfare programs to poor people here in USA. Do you know why? |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Jesus.. For God's sake, tell me what it is!! -Pai,
Good, as always you do not fail to pantomime and display your antics. Don't you worry. God may not be amused by your attempt to duck the ball using the stick and display the traits inherited by your masters. He might rather be impressed if you dare fess up the facts, much to your chargin. It might do a lot good to you if you change your caps once in a while and let the fresh air flow in. Then again, living in denials has no name nor fame, it just lives on in infamy to rise on another day.
For the likes of you who think that it is as easy as herding the cows by wielding the stick, the moment of reckoning which you face once in a while could prove to be too much. Yeah almost your undoing. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
| Omie Baba - I told you all the politican are doing for vote bank politics, one is wooing one community and other is wooing another community, day dreamer LK Advani do not have the courage to take Ratha yatra now to unite all the Hindus under one umbrella, RSS will not allow because they do not consider lower caste hindus as real Hindus and RSS has to be blamed for insult of Indian Hindus. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Omie Baba - Did the law find any one guilty in these incidents? Omie baba you beleive that violence is only reason to teach a lesson. If yes, who will teach the RSS and pay pack for their evil deeds. Omie Baba - Did you ever found that RSS was behind each and every attacks in India?
You need to wake up from hibernation and get the facts right baba... or else your traitor Mohan Bhagwat will sell the country and you have to be slave of your enemy Pakistan mind it. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Austin - When religion is above their upper chamber and claim superiority over other religion, they failed to understand that they are worshipping a material that has been ever existed.
I do not have facebook account and I am not in this tweeting either, I believe I do not need to boast how many friends I have? and when did I f-rt? when did I brush my teeth and took nap etc. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
| Austin - I believe in science not the religions, GOD, GODESS & Devils and others. I do not like to tag anyone in a religion. I am not khan I am shetty... |
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| Nazeer, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Re: Pak bombings
Dear Puttur Dinesh, have you ever interacted with any Pakistani? Sunni or Shia, if he is a Pakistani, nothing matters. I live and work in Saudi Arabia and having lot of hell experiences from these creatures. You must see their attitude towards Indians, they feel that they are next to Saudi citizens.
The killings in Pakistan is not new, sometimes Sunnis kill Shias or Shias kills Sunnis.
Every month, every week, every day it continues. All are same as far as Pakistan concerned.
They never change, even after disasters like floodings, earthquakes hit their land. They are cursed by God. |
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| Nazeer, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Can you please for your god sake speak from a humanity point of view forgetting your dogma???- Austin Noronha
Austin, I really didn't mean in that way, the way what you have thought. I just wanted to say, if it is accepted wholeheartedly by a married woman with her own will, as per her religious beliefs, she has all the rights to do so. We can't prevent her doing so if she feels comfortable. It is something like, a woman herself wants wear a veil, even if her parents or husband wanted to prevent it.
These things we should ask those women directly and then only we get the rigt answer. We cannot assume things without interacting them.
I think, This practice we can see only once in a year during Karva Chouth festival as I have watched in movies and TV programs. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Care to specify an age bracket -Chris the angry middle aged man
It is obvious that you have lots of reservations about India Chris. Do us a fvour. Just tell us where does your loyalty rest? Or even better don't forget how the NRI population chanted Bharat maata ki jai during gulf war and tried to flee from Kuwait. India is the only country in the world which will welcome you any day. UAE may give you nice dough. India gives you your identity. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
and go ahead to quote high vedas and scriptures.-Judith
Even a devil can quote the scripture my dear Lady. That does not mean any thing. So relax and try to fathom the meaning of my post before jumping around and showing misdirected anger. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 3, 2010 |
"If you know the answer reply without googling." - Bonnie, USA
Jesus.. For God's sake, tell me what it is!!
(Ok, lets see if my friend Austin gets confused again!!) |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 3, 2010 |
"Who in one breath says "I am Atheist"...." - My buddy Austin Gulf.
Hey Austin, self-proclaimed Atheist,
Did you read my reply below to Nagendra? If I say 'Ayyo Devare' OR 'Oh God' - it dosn't immediately mean that I am a God-fearing, temple-attending religious guy. If I call my son a 'superman' - it doesn't mean that I believe in Superman!
1. "Hell No!!" - Doesn't mean that I believe in 'Hell'
2. "feeling butterflies in my stomach" doesn't mean that I had butterflies crawling over my big belly!!
Well, you get the idea now (hopefully), that is... IF you are sober. Otherwise, do me a favor - read this post again tomorrow morning. It will help! smiles... |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Shenoy K, get your rudder straightened out, mate! Calibrate those scopes. Learn to live and let live!
Chris these hypocrites expect us to live as they want even if their lifestyle borders into foolishness, not questioning or reasoning. I will rather give up my life than be a fool. |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Then, what is the harm in eating the leftovers of thier husbands? - Nazeer
Nazeer, you need to open up your mind some more. I read your previous comments and opined that you are talking from your heart literally and not from a religious point of view. But what you wrote above proved me wrong. Can you please for your god sake speak from a humanity point of view forgetting your dogma??? |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Vinod Raghuvir khan, Belgium
Om Shetty, for once I thought your guess is right then I thought can Khan be an Atheist. I haven't come across any Atheist who was a muslim before. VRS what's your take on this. |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Pai Maam, Kasa maLLe tuva?? Vapaasa sanga? Thank whom?? God? Which God do Atheists worship? :-) NS
The above sentence bears witness to what ORP said once and then categorically denying it. Kiran swamy pleasssssee help this shisya of yours. |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Hey Austin, this chap has been born and brought up on his Fav Amar Chitra katha and Tinkle Comics.-Chris
Chris don't be surprised if I tell you that an illiterate lady, when I was living next door to a great soul (Mr.Wilfy Rebimbus), who was very fond of reading chanda mama was arguing with me so vehemently saying that "Vikram Bethal" is a real story. Now tell me should I be surprised of ORP. Who in one breath says "I am Atheist", and in the other says I am not. He really needs to take a lesson from our great Kiran swamy to make sure who actually he is. |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Those to still believe that GOD created this world here is a news from them.
VRS you are beating a dead horse. Nothing in this world can reverse the brainwashing of the religionists. These adults want to be like small cry babies in front of someone and some charlatans have given them the fictional characters they wanted. They are so much stubborn that they don't see the irrationality in what they are doing and on the contrary they go to length to defend the indefensible and ridiculing themselves. A glaring example is Kiran of USA who keeps writing nonsense to woo the gullible people here with his "Who I am" thesis and of late his "Formless" theory. He may not have heard about dark/anti matter or dark energy otherwise he would have attributed it to his theory on the formless and then to divinity. That is the strategy of such people. If they don't have a answer to something they will not admit but will try to confuse people by saying "This is the manifestation of god, bla, bla bla..". How the hell do they came to know the manifestation of someone they haven't seen. It really beats me!!! I can understand someone (preachers) fooling gullible people for the sake of living but I can't understand people like Kiran whose profession is something else trying to defend the indefensible and make fool of himself. I used to look at professionals like doctors, engineers, professors, etc with awe thinking that they are great people but not any more as long as they believe in fictional characters.
On a different note, I was searching for "Mangalorean Atheists" group on facebook and surprisingly I didn't find any. VRS can you please start such a group in facebook. I would be very grateful to you. You know I am almost nil in such things. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 3, 2010 |
"God? Which God do Atheists worship?" - Nagendra Shenoy.
Smiles...Well, I use 'ayyo devare' OR 'aa devarege gottu' when I speak with others. It doesn't mean that I am a new convert !! Same thing with goes my 'Thank God' expression!!
I know you are just reminding me of how I am getting older! Oh man!! :) |
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| Om Shetty, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Vinod Raghuvir, Belgium
33 plus blasts, Godhra train burning, Kashmir pundits being uprooted, Naxal cross-bearers killing Hindus in 1000s, in NE states cross-bearing terrorists killing Hindus everyday, 26/11, etc all were committed by Hindus? Be ready to take the same crap back! We have not yet paid you full, Muslims will attack n exterminate some 3 billion people all over the world including India, they will kill lacks in partition, in some 300 riots since 1947 lacs are again killed, everyday a new riot comes up in country started by Muslims, in Gujrat equal no muslims will torch a train full of 59 men, women n children by a mob 2000 tell me they were not muslims n here you are again crying? The crocodile tears wont be now accepted dear! open your eyes and be prepared |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Learn to live and let live!
ok bro'.
let's live happily after forever, following that rule. it's not my habit or hobby to poke into others' personal lives, until or unless i see someone passing a rule authoritatively.
cheers. |
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| Om Shetty, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Vinod Raghuvir Mulla, Belgium
Under the leadership of Vetican agent Sonia and Rahul ji, the congress part
agents like Chidambaram are calling all hindu saints as terrorists, they even have no respect for the saffron flag atop a sacred temple. Digvijay is throwing salt on the wounds inflicted by Chidambnaram, his true agenda is to insult and humiliate all hindus. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
*While interacting with a group of children, Rahul asked them what they wanted to see on the computer screen. “The children said Sachin Tendulkar. He clicked the mouse, typed Sachin’s name and the cricketer’s photo came on the screen,” said a villager*
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/roadside-jalebis-and-broadband-mark-rahuls-day-1-in-amethi/676254/
Sachin, continue to hold the nation together. Only YOU can do it! |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Those to still believe that GOD created this world here is a news from them.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100902/lf_nm_life/us_britain_hawking |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
| Maha Guru Diwakar Shenoy is missing since I have asked him question about Mohan Bhagwat. May be he is trying to find some new information from Information & Broadcasting Ministry. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Thank God - We have people like Jethmalani!!! - O R Pai
Pai Maam, Kasa maLLe tuva?? Vapaasa sanga? Thank whom?? God? Which God do Atheists worship? :-) |
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| nicholas, Canada |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Nazeer,Saudi Arabia,
Just why cannot it be other way? If you are speaking of love why dont the family eat together,which increases the bond. BTW juist check Ab original Pai comment before writing any thing further. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Omie Baba-
Do you want to see the real taste of saffron democracy and what your secular RSS and BJP is doing in India just for votes.
Click the link below and just introspect and understand who is suffering in India because of Brahmins and their hatred policies.
http://www.sabrang.com/cc/archive/2010/july-aug10/hindutva.html
http://www.countercurrents.org/iqbal020910.htm
They have realised recently that violence will not lead them to built Hindu Rastra so they want to have common understanding so motu Gadkari wants to bring all of them in under one umbrella but RSS opposed the idea saying that others should embrace Hindu religiion and lower caste and other Hindus should accept Brahmin idealogy.
You will know the real aim of RSS by a sting operation by some journalists and it will be exposed by them very soon. |
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| Bonnie, USA |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Thank God - We have people like Jethmalani!!! - Pai,
Pai,
Let me ask you a question. Who do you think demanded special status for Kashmir and Old Grandpa granted his request. If you know the answer reply without googling. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Oye Omie Baba - seems to me you have logger heads with the minorities, which party is not playing for vote banks? every one is doing the same? VHP is crying for Ram Mandir for last 20 years and still it is the cry and BJP told that give us power will build Ram Mandir and they were in power still it is a dream.
My question is that when the trial of Ajmal Kasab can be done in so haste why not same for Gujrath Riots, Orissa Attacks & Babri Masjid demolition? why Omie Baba why?
Because for you they are seculars? we need to change the vocubalary for each and every humans, better you can ask with your pal Pai from Ullal Sankada Aache
Omie - your national hero Modi is now like a puppet because he realised that he has to face the wrath of the nature and he will certainly does it. |
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| Prathi.S, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Hi, Im back with some horrible experiences...in my pocket. I realy feel irritated about our system. Dont understand why people cal it as system when it is not a system. Everything is corrupted here...nothing is fair..nothing you find in white colour....!
Hmmmm...let me come to the point...!
Last week had to go to Bangalore from Mangalore. Booked sleeper seat in "SEA BIRD" bus 6 days before. Got last seat...& god's grace didnt forget to confirm if that seat is good. The very next day mornin i had 2 attend training @ Bangalore. when i went there on the given date & time, here comes the real pathetic experience of me...!
As expected at the given time bus came...named.. SEA BIRD.. I went searchin my seat, which was in last row. I can never forget in my life my experience in tht bus on that day. I had paid 400 Rs. for tht night journey, & they had given me a seat, where water was leakin as if some1 is pourin from upside. Entire bus was stinking like anything. unwashed stinkin bedsheets, ful bedbugs biting you in your jouney....ufffff....horrible.
well, i asked them about othr seat, the people who should be responsible for this bus, didnt know that the bus is leakin when it was a small river inside. !!! & at last the answer was, if u can come, come or else cancel the ticket. How responsible people they are...!. Have to give award for their service. We trust these people & their bus for some emergency commitments & these people are so careless that, they dont even know that they have to give value for the money what they collect...
Then as i had no choice i took one sitting seat,, which was infront of tht sleeper seat...(which ofcourse didnt have pushback)...& choosed to spend one night in SEA BIRD hell.
whole night, water was pouring on me like anything, bed bugs wer biting here & there, swellin on legs, hands bcz of that, stinking smell...& even there was nothing like ladies seats. They had given some seats to gents near ladies ....uffff...horrible journey it was.
Need not mention, it was not only my seat which was leakin, but all but in small. I was the victim for this worst experience...& even none of the seater seats had proper pushbacks.
Whatever may be their problem, when they take money and book the ticket, they have to disclose what problem their bus has got. After all they are not giving the service free of cost. I wish, none of them wil go for this experience,,,& want to give one advertisement about this company to help them either to reduce their business or learn to to be more responsible.
How such people can be so irresponsible i dont understand. When you dont understand the values in life, u have to sit behind four values,. Pleas never come out to trouble others. Business in the form of service has to be with some values. if you are not able to respect your duties and your customer, why the hell you should be in business...why the hell you should have bread with the customers money !!!???
Well,,,Friends…Think before U Book the Ticket In This Bus…!!! |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
These guys are not Roman Catholics..-Sameet
Does it justify the attack? - Shenoy R
Yes, it does justify the attack. Especially when High Upper Class Brahmins turn their backs towards the suffering of lower class and downtrodden people and go ahead to quote high vedas and scriptures. |
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| Om Shetty, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Do you know all this secularists communists congress people craved for madhani and his release when he was facing trail in coimbatore to get muslim votes. Now after his release inspite of his involvement in a bus burning case and involvement in bangalore blasts still
he is a free man why can't sonia's CBI act on this antinationals. They are good only in acting AGAINST on their own IPS COLLEGUES and police officers cery fat to at the behest of sonia inspite of knowing shorabuddin is a wanted criminal in more than 50 cases in four states. This CBI people are digging their own grave by demoralising their own officers and making shorabuddin national hero. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Every child in this world knows about the booming Indian economy. India is a growing economy and it will grow inspite of sceptics like you. - Shenoy R to Mike Saldanha from the UK
Ahem! "EVERY CHILD in this world", eh? Care to specify an age bracket when you say "child"? Or else, some reference to books or to portal links would be of immense help.
Patriotism is fine as long as one does NOT make a fool out of oneself without knowing facts. If one does some rudimentary research on the net, it would be evident that India's rather "tall claims" and not the true reality! Rotting food-grains, rampant corruption, choked roads, crumbling infrastructure, total lack of even food in India's villages, attacks on minorities, discrimination on caste and creed besides discrimination on preconceived notions of superiority etc.
Forget about children overseas! Do Indian's own children - India's future - take pride in India's much talked about growth of around 9-10%? Does less than 1 USD per day (approx 45 rs) for their families make those children harbor the SAME thoughts of patriotism that threatens to spill over from your puffed-up gills - and never the mind the fact that you live in the US of A and YET give long talks on India.
Read - http://maksonkert.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/with-many-still-starving-india-rethinks-its-safety-net/
That's JUST one of the many websites around and should open your myopic eyes to reality in India.
C'mon, man Shenoy R! You ain't such a dumbkoff although you quote Hindi dialogues from Veeru, Jai, Basanthi, Gabbar Singh, Chiman Lal, Pyare Lal, Vijay, DigVijay, Peter England, Johnny, Red Bull, Mugambo etc. Pull up those green surgical smocks tighter for a change and don't start sermonizing Mike or anybody else with your false notions!
Mike spoke his mind out and yes, he made sense 220%! Now, please - don't come up with some crappy Bachchan dialogue as part of your retort!
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Btw, Shenoy K (K as in Knotted) - Your pals Shenoy R. DP, (I'll leave out a chap coz he made some amends with me today) et al has been on my gnawing on haunches for quite some time now! Probably, they didn't like the taste of my hind-quarters (God knows - it might taste like Jerky or Biltong!), tail-gas or whatever! I never cried \"persecution/attack/whatever- Help, Im just a speck of the dwindling 2.3% Catholic community\", did I?
However, have I asked you or anybody else out here or there or even in the all-pervading ether - is it BCOZ I have a Christian name that people are out to bash the bejesus outta me? I haven't right? Who pulled up the religious card if not separated by community or caste - YOU, right? I've stood my ground my still shall! Shenoy K, you have a lot of growing up to do.
Shenoy K, get your rudder straightened out, mate! Calibrate those scopes. Learn to live and let live! |
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| Nazeer, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Female members were made to eat the leftover of their husbands, -Nicholas
Husband and wife- They can hug, they can kiss and they can sleep together. Why? It is Love in between them, isn't it? Then, what is the harm in eating the leftovers of thier husbands?
It is nothing but showing their love and respect towards their mates.
In most occasions, we family or friends eat from one plate, which we believe that it srenghtens the bond of relationships and that is true. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
| Puneet - This EYT will not be enough to write the name of the all the temples, you can just visit all the temples in India and find for yourself. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Oye Omie Baba - Khan is respected name in Indian cinema and I am shetty not Khan.. Are you Om Povappa living in dalit colony in Monkey Stand or in Kankanady bypass road.
Modi will have to face the farce of the nature and now he is toothless lion, his chela amit shah is in Jail and he cannot do anything than thinking of his fate like Indian cinema going to flash back and future.. Oye Omie baba save your modern Hilter from his karma if you can. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
| Mr. Puthran, We all need to protest against this caretaker and CWC authority, who were aware of the happenings going on in Satkarm Ashram and still remained silent. The caretaker has siphoned off all funds delegated for the ashram for his own benefit. If he is not punished, he will again come back with similar crimes. Can we start some signature campaign ????? |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 3, 2010 |
M. Hussain Qatar - I have tried to know the scientific argument from religions and found that all the religions have unscientific arguments so I came out from the religions and believed in science.
Do you think the religion you are following is 100% perfect? or it has some errors also? please make me understand. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Mr. Shenoy R,
India is booming only for a handful may be you are one of them. I invite you to the slums of Mumbai, Bangalore, Calcutta, Chennai, Delhi including States of UP, Bihar. Just see the number of beggars on the road, outside temples, hospitals, everywhere, their numbers just keeps on increasing. It is beyond the reach of honest middleclass person to buy even a matchbox 1 bhk in Mumbai and has to shell out huge money on rent. Unless there is proper distribution of income and atleast basic necessities of all Indians like food, clothing, shelter, eductation, sanitary needs are met India will not be shining. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 3, 2010 |
I started seeing red flags ever since you mentioed how you stopped lifting weights BUT....still could lift weights - Pai
We are talking about a procedure done on the 30th of Aug 2007 - more than 3 years back! So why would I start referring to beta-blockers and clopidogrel 3 years down the line? If at all a "meltdown" should have occurred, it should have been right after the procedure when I was getting to grips with a little extra iron in the pump! (Imagine having perfect levels of Cholesterol, Triglycerides, no sugar, perfect BP, fantastic salt etc etc.. and still whammo!) NOT 3 years later! Incidentally, I had been going for yearly checkup's since 2004. Almost anybody else above 30 would do that I'm sure!
An easier explanation would be that somebody opened his/her big mouth! After all, that's no state secret coz I was the chap who put it up on an article of mine - "A Place Worth Visiting", but later had it removed!
Besides, when I was offshore, the gym was just 2 mins away and since there wasn't much to do, it was either surf the net, watch TV or indulge in sports. I chose pumping coz it has always held fascination for me. However, even if I wasn't advised to pump iron, and say I took up a job on the mainland (Abu Dhabi), I doubt if I would have hit a gym. Parking woes are the stuff of legends out here besides the fact that I'd be spending more time away from my family and that too after work! Would I go to a gym here in AUH, nope!
I'm definitely not Einstein but I'm not exactly Obtuse or Dense either! Of course, your constant "hope you're feeling better etc" made me suspect that somebody [I don't want to drop his name out here] had told you something about my procedure. However, you were rather vague about it and hence, it didn't warrant a reply in turn. You see, people can goad/needle me to an extremely large extent and I usually brush it away! After all, I'm not exactly a paragon of virtue out here! :) |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Also the BJP Govt has
divided the society according to the caste.
-Raviraj
Caste system existed long before political system existed Mr Salian. BJP government may come and go but caste system and division will stay unless the people make sincere efforts to respect each other rather than pulling each other down. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
And, look where India is after 50 years! -Michael
When last did you visit India Mr Saldhana? Have you seen the developments in India? Don't you read news papers? How dare you attempt to belittle your own country! Every child in this world knows about the booming Indian economy. India is a growing economy and it will grow inspite of sceptics like you. Learn some patriotism for a change Sir. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Female members were made to eat the leftover of their husbands, -Nicholas
Sounds like amnesia. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
When will the BJP in KARNATAKA find it fitt to allot a MINISTERSHIP to the MLA YOGISH BHAT? -Savyasaachi
Mr All rounder, the answer is simple. When Mr Suresh Ballal gets the Cong I ticket, Mr Bhat will still have to defeat him to become an MLA first. When that happens, he stands a very good chance of getting a ministerial post. Even if he does not get it, that should not give any one a 'fit'. It is always better to be a ruling party MLA. Now try some outside the off stump bowling please.
PS: Mr Ballal will give a stiffer fight. What do you think? |
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| Nicholas, Canada |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Ab Orignial Pai,
By looking the status of River Ganga we can know the madi & shudhi of those priests. By deeping into some water you dont become clean, Everybody in old Mysore state knows about "Brahmanara Snana"
As you said about masters now I know you are slave minded & what ever your Masters(Poojari) Says you follow. Speaking about brainwashing specialists are your guru's or swamijis who interpret the books acording to their benefit.
According to your religion you are not supposed to give anything out of your Vasthu, But now a days you have got lot of shops which do business at night.
All those manners was taught by britishers(Ur Masters), before even the brahmins used to sprinkle their house with goomutra & after food wipe their floors with cowdung. Female members were made to eat the leftover of their husbands, etc.
So better check before you comment. The list goes on. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 3, 2010 |
Chill P D. I know you didn't get my point earlier and now you are trying to put words in my mouth. Why didn't you feel that I was being sarcastic about family companies and why you felt that I am supporting it? Because with the latter, your reply doesn't fit in. So you make your own conclusions to suit you.
BTW, there were only 6 points. See, you still feel I wrote 7 points. I knew it would make no sense to you at all! :)
Accept it and move on buddy. Be a true American. Let it not appear like you are doing a FANCY DRESS. Enjoy the weekend. Don't get hyper when mirror is shown to you. TooT jaayega (Mirror that is) |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 3, 2010 |
"For your kind information these words shudha & madi was made by poojaris or brahmins to suppress the lower caste people" - Nicholas, Canada.
As I said before, this is something all of us should be following. Did brahmana people ever stop you from keeping your kitchen clean?
Shudhdha and madi, in other words, personal hygiene played even a bigger role when it came to temple and mutt. That's why you don't walk around in shoes inside temples. That's why only a main priest is allowed to enter the 'Garbha Gudi' after taking bath while others (incluing the Brahmana devotees) are made to stand outside and watch the ceremony.
One more thing - 'Shudhdha and madi' are not just limited to swamijis. Even at home, people practiced these good things. There are rules such as
- Wash your hands before sitting down for lunch/dinner
- Do a prayer thanking God and your ancestors before start eating
- Don't start eating right away. Everybody starts at the same time after a prayer. The samething goes at the end. You don't just get up and leave whenever you want. You wait for the last person to complete and then leave.
- Don't touch the food with both hands
- Always ask a person to serve you the food so you don't touch the common pot or bowl.
- When you drink the water, don't let your lips touch the cup
- Don't waste any food
- Don't spill food
- When you leave, don't leave you plate (or leaf) behind. Always carry it outsie and wash (or dispose).
I can go on and on. These are the beautiful practices we still see in those families that are not brainwashed by rotten popular culture.
Why do you blame brahmana people for everything? So, you believe only when your 'Masters' tell you how to eat OR how to stay clean? |
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| PDP JR, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Ever wondered if Baldness (male pattern) and Prostate are some how connected?
If you need to know the connection - please go through this wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutasteride
Switching gears and on a lighter vein, who said only women have menopause? Men ( 38 - 43 years!) go through mid life crises too.
For people suffering with issues of prostate cancer, Chemical castration ( blocking the testosterone) can cause havoc and living can be hell as these hormones are very important to keep the brain healthy with proper day to day happiness and feeling content and therefore blocking this testosterone can have 10 times the effect of midlife crisis.
Midlife crisis can also be due to issues related to job insecurity , marital discord or a mixture of everything.
So for people getting bald or fear of getting bald, there is hope and in a few years there may be a cure as well. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
"Why force anyone to go vegetarian vegan or non-vegetarian, right ORP?" - Diana Fernandez
Dear Diana,
I should have clarified earlier.
No - I am not for forcing anyone to go vegitarian or non-vegitarian. I also agree with you that we should encourage people to develop healthy habits. However, in my opinion, this goes beyond the choice of 'healthy food'. This is about treating animals and birds with respect. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
State Govt. spends an average of Rs.50 Crores a day on self publicity -Tony quoting justice Saldhana
I am amazed at this figure.Rs 50 crores is a lot of money by any stretch of imagination. That could have been well spent to dig bore wells in North Karnataka for example. It could also have been spent to buy more volvo buses to provide comfort to the tired bus passengers. It could have been spent in so many different ways. Fifty crores! Give me a break. I don't think in my life time I will see such amount. Of course I am not talking about rich guys like VRS who earn 24000/ Euros a month. My appeal to the people of Karnataka. Vote wisely. Avoid voting people like Halappa, Renukacharya, Kumara Swamy, Revanna, D K Shiva Kumar etc.Vote for only good candidates regardless of their party.Let the good people rule us.
PS: AT LEAST THEY MAY NOT SPEND 50 crores like that.
PPS: I WONDER WHAT IS THE SOURCE of this privileged information! Was it published in the government gazette?
Extra point: I almost forgot that we are now in September. No wonder we are reading such long posts quoting Justice Saldhana.Good try Tony. Keep the flame burning. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
these words shudha & madi was made by poojaris -Nicholas
You mean a certain Poojary from Mangalore who is habitually losing the elections?
Words are coined by society at large. The development of any language happens over centuries. It happens slowly but steadily. New words are added. Many words are borrowed from other languages. This happens as no good equivalent words exist at times. One such example is Pundit used widely in English these days. Don't tell me some Poojary is responsible for that. Those who hate brahmins are destined to take their help more often than not. [At least for their shraddha. Now don't ask me what is shraddha] |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
These guys are not Roman Catholics..-Sameet
Does it justify the attack? |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Our main concern should be telling people to eat healthy, whether that included a veg or non veg diet. :) Right ORP?
- D Fernandes
I like veg cutlet at Diana. So count me in Madam.
PS: Some of my friends like beef cutlet from Ghousia. So be it. The real losers:) |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
whether it was directed to you or me. the impact is the same..
-K Shenoy
Not necessarily. Some may need cold pack as Chris has suggested. Some may need emergency laparotomy as I said earlier. Remember Ramappa AKA Bachchan?But then why should we discuss Bachchan's health issues here. Such a hypocrite:)
PS: Bachchan keeps blogging about people who say negative things about him. I understand he regularly browses m.com too. |
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| Nicholas, Canada |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Original R.Pai, USA
Do you know what is meanong of shudha?If you say you know the meaning, you are accepting your kitchen is not shudha which means your intake food is not hygeinic, So what is the use of jpgging or excersice in morning?
For your kind information these words shudha & madi was made by poojaris or brahmins to suppress the lower caste people, if it is still followed it highlights the persons low mentality. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Chris, my friend from UAE,
okay - one last post on this subject before I move on.
I started seeing red flags ever since you mentioed how you stopped lifting weights BUT....still could lift weights.
Plus, you started referring to meds in multiple posts and then came Dr.Purushottam and AJ hosiptal.
Some of your posts made me wonder if you were going thru a total 'meltdown'! Everytime I saw those signs, I would slow down and ask you to calm down.
Oh well - I have another confession to make - I DID add (ofcourse, intentional) more 'masala' and 'oggarane' in my posts just to get on your nerves.
True - I never took any of these fights seriously. For me, receiving a few jabs is as entertaining as throwing some.
BUT...there are boundaries that I respect. I think, with your open admission, I have reached one such boundary that I am not willing to cross.
Well, you will still see me getting into crazy fist fights with others on this forum. Smiles...
Take care, Bro! |
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| Diana Fernandes, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Vegitarian diet is not about any religion. – ORP, USA
You are absolutely right ORP and I agee with you!
I think it should be in our own interest and liking, to eat what we like.
Why force anyone to go vegetarian vegan or non-vegetarian, right ORP?
Instead, we could help someone to form healthy eating habits. Peopel have rights to eat what they choose to eat, so it isn't our place to persuade them to eat and not eat certain things. Even our kids choose wether they want to eat a veggie or non veg meal! Everyone has their own taste buds. So let them eat what they like. Our main concern should be telling people to eat healthy, whether that included a veg or non veg diet. :) Right ORP?
These are my thoughts aste.
BTW, I am a vegan and I enjoy it,
but I cook everything including red meat as one of my family member likes to enjoy a scrumptious meal once a month :)
Have a nice day! |
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| Tony, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Attacks on Christians in Karnataka
Justice Saldanha Records 1000 Attacks in 2 Years. He Calls for Restoration
of Rule of Law
The Hon’ble Mr. V.S. Acharya,
Home Minister of Karnataka,
On 26th January 2010, I undertook the painful duty of recording that during
the short tenure of under two years of the BJP Government in this State,
that 500 attacks on the Christian community had taken place. The State
Government is acting in total violation of the Constitutional Mandate which guarantees freedom to practice and propagate one’s religion and this hate campaign has official sanction. There are organizations and institutions in this country which are maintaining a careful record of the increase in the number of these attacks in the State of Karnataka, as also of the fact that those involved in them are rarely arrested and even if arrested, the cases are clandestinely withdrawn. The victims are always wrongly arrested and
your Government refuses to withdraw those cases and to crown it all, you
have officially gone on record stating that all the attackers involved in
such serious offences under the IPC are political activists according to
you. This is a total aberration.
August 15, 2010 brought the number of such attacks to exactly 1000, an
increase of 500 in the last six months. The most sensational one came from your Party MLA – Prahlad Remani who is supposed to be the BJP MLA from
Khanapur in Belgaum District. The attack was made by him in the course of
his official address at the flag hoisting on Independence Day. I was in
Pune attending a Conference on that day and the TV channels have shown his
speech live. Among other statements, he has attacked the Christian
community by stating that the British had sown the seeds of Christianity in
this country (the man requires to be re-educated because this is factually
false) and that Christianity and Christians have to be weeded out and thrown out of this country. This is a serious offence of inciting communal
disharmony along with several other allied offences because it immediately
provoked violence and tension in the whole District. The State, in such
situations is required to register an offence and immediately proceed
according to Law. This was not done.
What is most atrocious is that when several complaints were lodged with the
Police Authorities and an FIR was registered that instead of upholding the Law, the State Government immediately transferred the SP who had very rightly taken action. This was done by the Chief Minister and the Home
Minister. This shows that the Statements made by the MLA are officially supported by the State Government and that the subversion of the Law and the legal process has also come from the Vidhana Soudha. The citizens of this State are protected by the Constitution of this country and therefore, demand from the State Government that action according to Law must follow.
In the course of the last two years, there have been a whole series of cases
where the State Government has incited, supported and shielded such communal attacks. The record also shows that the Law has been misused not only against the victims but against the Media whenever such cases have been highlighted and the international Human Rights Commission and the Press Council of India have taken serious note of this. The Central Government and the International Organizations have taken careful note of the fact that the
State Govt. spends an average of Rs.50 Crores a day on self publicity in
order to ensure that grave incidents of the present type are not reported.
All these incidents are representative of a total breakdown of the Rule of
Law in this State, it is a matter of deep regret that they have taken place
even on a sacred day like August 15th and we demand that the Rule of Law be
restored.
JUSTICE MICHAEL F. SALDANHA |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Mr K Shenoy, please clarify your position to Chris and dispel his notion.
i have already posted my comments about k and r being mixed up, shenoy maam. i guess chris has also clarified that little while before i posted this comment here.
no more confusion about k shenoy and r shenoy here.
i am also satisfied with the candid reply by chris, whether it was directed to you or me. the impact is the same..
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
"So what is wrong if i said if swamiji can eat beef sukka" - Jagadish
Oh 'Jagadish',
You must be another made-up character if your repeated references to 'beef sukka' and 'brahmin' are any indication!
Your agenda-driven questions are not very useful in the discussion. Forget about Dalit, Swamiji won't eat from my plate either though I was born in a 'Brahmana' family. The concept of 'madi / shudhdha' prevents him from eating food from another person's plate. It goes back to basic hygiene.
If you had any idea of how 'naivedyam' is prepared in these Mutts, you wouldn't have asked this ignorant question. Again, you don't have to be 'religious' to appreciate it. It is all about basic hygiene. You should practice it in your home as well.
As to beef sukka - Swamiji is a vegitarian if you haven't noticed yet. So, there is no question of eating meet. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 2, 2010 |
I had my own doubts as you gave away enough clues on referring statin, Dr. Purushottam, AJ hospital etc. - O R Pai
Pai, this part never included you but let me answer nonetheless, since I don't hide stuff from anybody! Except for Dr Purushottam's mention, say about 2-3 days back, I've not referred to the AJ Hospital at all - if memory serves me right.
Let me ask you - if somebody were to drop the trade name - 'Amitone', - a potent trank, would you suspect him to be a basket case? Now, don't ask me how I know my 2 cents worth of meds. Nope, i don't pop it - in case that's your next Q.
You, and I have had some differences of opinion on varying matters and have traded some GREAT barbs (barb as in goading). Do I take it seriously? Or do you, on your part? I don't and hope you concur too!
Cheerio! |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
"Don't forget, you are a minority in US" - Stany D'Souza
No, I didn't forget it. I was only highlighting how 'minority' groups act in general. They tend to be too 'sensitive', disrespect the majority and continue provocations hiding behind 'legal rights'.
They usually do it in open, democratic societies such as India, US, EU. They will never dare to do such dramas in Arab world or communist regimes.
Imagine a Hindu group trying to convert people in Peshawar OR trying to build a massive Hindu temple in Riyadh!! |
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| Kiran, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
So I presume that you don't know the mass of the up-quarks and the down ones --Chris
Sorry, busy with Shri Krishna Janmastami celebrations. You are free to presume what you want, I am following the LHC experimentation of the Standard Model. That is not the subject matter here and I do not wish to digress. As you may or may not have known about Dr. Zeilinger's and others' work have shown us that even larger molecules exist as waves unless observed. So, what to speak of its mass and its constituent particles? Do you really believe that quarks are the fundamental particles of the universe with an absolute existence (just as the atom was once thought to be)? Did they exist in the singularity before the big bang? I digress once again. The point here was that formless, by definition, has no qualities. At least, that much, is surely not complicated. As, I said before, this subject has outlived its utility. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Naags
How about you follow your seven step process before asking others to follow it. Most of it doesnot make any sense :)
Now, what is supposed to mean when post your telegraphic message- "One more family company in the making in India. Wipro, Hero, HCL, Godrej, Bajaj, Birla...... "
So be clear in what you express, and if you support dynastic business. it is alright, just stand by your opinion, don't act like parnaga vonji Pirnaga vonji.
Enjoy the weekend.
All these companies should be taken out of the clutches of these families. There are share holdres who will be losing money if these families screw it up. Satyam is a very good example. It is hard to trust family mamanged business from India, especially when it comes to investment. |
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| pRAKASH kUMAR, UK |
Sep 2, 2010 |
| Why do I get these frightening thoughts that some organisations want to replace National anthem “ Jana Gana.....” by Vande Mataram |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Puttur Dinesh,
Where did I write in favour of dynasty business? You should cultivate the habit of reading before you give your opinion. Some tips for you, follow it, will help you in your professional and social life
1. Read carefully. Read twice. Thrice at times.
2. Comprehend. Make sure what you have understood is the same as what the writer has conveyed. If not, OPEN your mouth and ask.
3. Think over it.
4. If you have an opinion over it, structure it in an order and put them in proper words which the recipient can understand. Communication is not display of mastery over language, it is to make the other party understand you. We aren't here to compete against Salman Rushdie. Hence, keep it simple.
6. Proof read what you have written before sending it to publish. A good writer proof reads his own writing and reads it later after publishing as well.
7. After point 4, I have moved to point 6. If you haven't noticed this, then you are a bad reader and need improvement :)
Now let's come to the topic of distribution of wealth.
Bill Gates and others might have donated most of their wealth but don't forget that all these years they too were in the rat race. All comforts and aspirations have been achieved. It's only now that they are distributing their wealth. Hats off to that though. It takes something to part with something which you love the most.
As for Indian leaders, they are doing their part. In case you did not know, Azim Premji has a NTC named Azim Premji Foundation. Infosys has Infosys Foundation. 70% of Tata Sons is owned by 2 Trusts - Ratan Tata Trust and Sir Dorabji Tata Trust. So it is wrong notion to have that Indian leaders don't do their bit. I don't know how many US Companies follow this policy of Ownership with Charitable Organizations and neither do I want to know, as it will turn the debate into Indian v/s American as always.
But yes, are Indian leaders doing enough or not could be debatable. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
"He openly spoke about the angioplasty procedure that I underwent 3 years back" - Chris Rego.
Chris,
On a serious note, I think you are taking these discussions way too far. Looking back, I had my own doubts as you gave away enough clues on referring statin, Dr.Purushottam, AJ hospital etc. I never really asked you as it would be unappropriate to ask personal questions in a public forum.
With this admission, I am going to believe in my instincts and stop 'Jugal-bandhi' with you.
Take care of your health, my friend. You don't need to prove anything to anybody - be it your education or any other credentials. You know it and that's good enough.
Peace, Bro. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Have you read a book called Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austin when you were studyimg in primary school? - Shenoy R.
This is like asking a fish - "Hey Fishu, dya swim, man?"
Incidentally, it is AUSTEN, and NOT AUSTIN as you wrote! Looks like you haven't even gotten the grasp of her name as yet, save the content! Spellings aren't important, are they? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Hey Chris, you are taking it a bit too far. Show me one post where I have mentioned any thing related to your health. Don\'t get mixed up man. - Shenoy R.
Sorry Dr. Shenoy R.! It was Shenoy K. who referred to the procedure. I sincerely apologize for the goof-up in initials! That\'s the problem when you open-up 2 laptops at home and blog and people use initials for first names!
Nonetheless, no excuses whatsoever! Do accept my sincere apologies for the mix-up!
On the other hand, it is K. Shenoy who should have a rethink and coz his lack of sense let him down! |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
| Mr. Puthran, I am always glad to assist for social work. However, I have never joined any social networking groups like twitter, facebook, etc.. |
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| Puneet, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Why do they -GSB/ Brahmins-make people remove shirts while entering the temple, - Vinod Raghuvir Shetty
Vinod name the temple also ? |
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| B.P. Putran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 2, 2010 |
| Pai maam, shenoy, its of no use arguing for the sake of arguing here as you rightly pointed out rediculing each other in the name of caste, creed, religion, we have better things to do in life, not to waste our time and energy. thanks for those samartians here, join me if you can do some social work you can find me in FB, Tweeter, Linkedin. thank you Pai, Shenoy, DPK, Mumtaz, Nazeer Saheb, Sr. Judith, Chris rego. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
He openly spoke about the angioplasty procedure that I underwent 3 years back. Now, most of us here know that he is a practicing Cardiologist -Chris
Hey Chris, you are taking it a bit too far. Show me one post where I have mentioned any thing related to your health. Don't get mixed up man.
Mr K Shenoy, please clarify your position to Chris and dispel his notion. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Ha! You'll have to be born again!-Chris, the ever optimist
Have you read a book called Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austin when you were studyimg in primary school? I know you have mastered Harold Robbins and Nick Carter. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
R (R as in Ramanna or Rampanna). -Chris, the inimitable Rego
Thank God you did not say R as in Rego.:) |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Shenoy K.
You must have realized that my post was meant for Shenoy R. So sorry that I inadvertently put my reply to him under your name.
Care to know what riled me? Probably you didn’t read his one-liner properly or probably it failed to register as not many people are familiar with a "stent". He openly spoke about the angioplasty procedure that I underwent 3 years back. Now, most of us here know that he is a practicing Cardiologist and the least I expected from him was to remember the Hippocratic Oath that he took while passing out. Forget a frigging Cardio, even a normal chap with this little sense would very well know that such matters hardly deserve mention on a public forum. But nope, even that little bit of "sense" if not common sense evaded him!
Incidentally, the pertinent text of the Original version of the Hippocratic Oath is faithfully reproduced below:
"WHATEVER, IN CONNECTION with my professional practice or not, in connection with it, I see or hear, in the life of men, which ought not to be spoken of abroad, I will not divulge, as reckoning that all such should be kept secret."
"WHILE I CONTINUE to keep this Oath unviolated, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in all times! But should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the REVERSE be my lot!"
So do you think that I was justified to give him a piece of my mind – and that too in not too eloquent lingo? Now, whether you concur or not, is a different matter altogether!
Incidentally, keep Raj out of this, please. I have known him for quite a while now and know him to be quite a balanced person. If he avoids EYT for any reasons, it is up to him and we should respect his decisions and not drag him into matters that hold no charm for him.
About DP, you are free to believe whatever you want. Possessing mere seniority hardly warrants him to pass comments such as - "even a Bank Peon would understand my mind" or something to that effect besides plenty more taunts and barbs at staggered intervals – but always in chime to echoes from a far away land! If you want to imbibe his "knowledge" and "humor", please feel free to do so. Anyway, what’s left to "discard"?
Further, if I speak my mind out against extremist outfits such as the RSS/VHP/Rama Sene - by no stretch of imagination can that be construed as “spreading hatred by attacking fellow mangaloreans by ridiculing their traditions”. If you have been following my posts, can you mention any specific community that I have targeted? Zilch, right? On the matter of "ridiculing traditions", probably you are referring to ‘Naga/Linga worship’ – a matter that I never ridiculed although it was construed as such! I had clarifications to seek on “Qualities/formless and the form, manifestation etc" and after a lengthy debate it has been laid to rest!
Further, questioning somebody’s non-tech credentials (which incidentally are openly available) for hands-on Technical expertise does NOT constitute to be an "attack on anybody with a Hindu name"! Unfortunately, everybody here failed to realize that the difference between Supplier & Specialist Sub Contractor! Anyway, that matter has been laid to rest too and yet, some enlightened soul from yonder keeps harping on his harpsichord on some "effect" or the other!
On the matter of "time", yes, I had to keep everything aside and spend a lot of time pounding on the keyboard - so much so that my better half threatened to yank-out the power cord and lock it up!
Try and be a tad more objective, mate and don’t paint everything and everybody with the same brush and color!
Moving back to Shenoy R, I hope another look-through the Hippocratic Oath will help him avoid making a similar mistake in the future! If some vestiges of decency or plain old common sense still remain, an apology would be deemed appropriate. However, I don’t pin much hopes on that eventuality. And I don't want any "reversals" either! |
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| Om Shetty, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Vinod Raghuvir khan, Belgium
Do not worry about Modi Gujaraties are well of to take care of that You batter worry about your time to come for next generation, because people like you do not wake up it will be too late. |
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| M,Hussain, Qatar |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Fighting between Shia and Sunny dates back to 7th century but still going on in many parts of the world……Fathima – mangalore, India
Jews persecuted Jesus in the land of palestain in 1st century of just before thereafter Romans fought Jews and Jews had been chased them. Regrouped jews now killing palestanians in the name of Jewish homeland “ZIONISM”
About 2000 BC Aryans invaded India persecuted Dravidians till todate dalits are being kicked, killed, naked paraded and their women are raped. Do you have parallel this in other parts of the world???? |
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| P.K.Chandran, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Please view, the editorial content of July 2010 www.themarinewaves.com, “Marine Waves” monthly international maritime newsletter, wherein carries evidence of the court case reference as said transparently, of the harassment and humiliation meted out by an Indian citizen litigant. This was exposed for others to also come forward, of the prevailing injustices, wasting the valuable time, money and efforts in courts of their life-time. Where is the perfection, for the judiciary to be blindly kept high, scaring the contempt of court, besides the advocates (future jurists) making “road roko”, just because one of the advocate’s relative lost their land by land grabbing?, indisciplined lawyers taking law into their own hands(T.O.I. Dtd.26.06.2007, 16.09.2008 etc. Chennai Edition). Why not discipline the advocates, for "not taking law into their own hands but be a role model, taking the common standard route of filing the suit, as the common citizen, as in the case of the said ex-serviceman in www.themarinewaves.com, in the editorial content, maintaining the sanctity of the Indian courts as well". While in the “ Land- grabbing case “ of an ex-serviceman in Bangalore City Civil Court i.e. O.S.345/2004 & R.A.117/2009. Its high time sincere CBI officers be asked to look into such cases as a watchdog and give justice, this innocent senior citizen and ex-serviceman totally harassed and humiliated to give-up, while he is fighting-out for justice, incurring further unwanted money, time and efforts in his old age, as a senior citizen or else it is like discouraging the loyal citizen, to come forward to defend their own nation from external threats.
We definitely need to rebuild the institutions of democracy, strengthen them, make them accountable and transparent and make them deliver what they are supposed to deliver. The current political leaders are not about to do that till they are pressurised. That can happen only if people, concerned people, good people participate in politics and democratic processes
Dr.ChandranPeechulli,Ph.D;MBA;FIE(INDIA) |
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| P.K.Chandran, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Dr.ChandranPeechulli,Ph.D;MBA;FIE(INDIA). (Chennai, India) 30 Aug, 2010 1031hrs IST
Rightly said by the new CJI. Unlike other professionals they are one amongst, without any exceptions as none fallen from the sky. Individuals can differ by their integrity and how they focus upon with specialization on the issues with their limitation of thoughts. Preferential treatment also if shown, should also make sense, in the case of the retirement age of judges while an employee citizen of a public sector (S.C.I.) thrown out of service, like a fish out of water in his late forties in 1993 and a fair settlement not made as yet.
Dr.ChandranPeechulli,Ph.D;MBA;FIE(INDIA). (Chennai, India) |
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| R.Venkatakrishnan,M.Com;MCA;MBA,Assoc.Editor, |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Why do ships collide within the port area again and again? Does it not reflect on the poor administration, not taking corrective measures of remedial action. Why has the DGS (Office of the Directorate General Shipping)not looking into this? Probe into action with Port Traffic Manager, Port Conservator, Marine/Engineer...Surveyor of the jurisdictional MMD. This is a true case of deliberate neglection and corruption.
Material evidence: Please browse website www.themarinewaves.com, and view the editorial contents from the EDITORIAL archives of the respective months and years from 2004 onwards. Sheer neglect for all the expositions made in the monthly editorials of the deficiencies, defects that prevail in the national maritime administration of INDIA. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Chris is quoting my post here and gives credit to one SHENOY K. Kaale saibaa? Who is this Shenoy K? I notice that you are even calling him a doctor by the way. - Shenoy R.
Sorry, Shenoy R (R as in Ramanna or Rampanna). The reply should have been posted back to you but it went to Shenoy K inadvertently..
Anyway, who else but you can come up with references to "scalded kittens". |
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| Vrishank, Sweden |
Sep 2, 2010 |
These days we seem to be watching Indian made movies that lack good substance as well as action movies such as Don.
In Don there was a scenario wherein the lead character is being told........ "yeh sona bazaar mein bhi miltha hai"........
Where are all these writers now ? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Shenoy prefers the whole book mate. Does it make you feel any better? - Shenoy
Ha! You'll have to be born again! |
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| Stany D'Souza, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
"No surprises ...typical 'minority' behavior in play here. First, provoke the majority, make them angry and then blame them for getting upset. How sweet!" -- R. Pai.
Don't forget, you are a minority in US. Stereotypic statements are not always helpful! |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Naags double standard there buddy.
you are against dynastic politics, but you are all for dynastic business. Premji has built the company from ground up, all that his son has done is being born in that family.
Premji should sell his stocks to the public and make wipro more public listed company than handing it over to his son who may run it to the ground.
I don't know if you read about the recent challenge by Buffet and Bill Gates. Americans are much better when it comes to charity and not giving their riches to their children.
read the two articles, it will open your mind to some new knowledge.
http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/06/16/gates-buffett-600-billion-dollar-philanthropy-challenge/
http://beyondprofit.com/mind-the-gap-the-current-state-of-indian-philanthropy/ |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
| Those who have an 'inferiority complex' about self always go on a rampage against others. Those who have a 'superiority complex' about self avoid mingling with others. A slow poison will always remain a slow poison. Anyways, 'IAS' so I am cult. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 2, 2010 |
Virginal Pai, don't make me laugh, man! - Chris Rego
Well, after those 'Puthran' moments, none can call him Virginal Rego. Just kidding. Take it in good spirit dude.
But 'Puthran' moments are any day better than 'We Are Sh*tty' moments :) |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Sep 1, 2010 |
O Pai This is my analysis of people seeking extra protection.
They are like an abusive boy friend/husband who is selfish and wants his girlfriend to do everything for him, but wouldn't do a thing for her. On top of that he would call her a slut/ infidel.
I hope I am making some sense here |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
I wonder when blabbering Shenoy will take a leaf outta his book!
-Chris, the sad man
Shenoy prefers the whole book mate. Does it make you feel any better?
PS: Try some soda sherbat. Good for the heat. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Chris, my friend from UAE,
I understand - It has been a rough week for you.
Don't let 'Puthran' moment discourage you from asking 'curious' questions on this forum. We truly enjoy your posts and your 'debating' skills!!
smiles..
We all make mistakes, my friend. It's time to learn from our mistakes and move on! If it makes you feel any better, why don't you write a poem in your unique style so your 'friends' can congratulate you? Just a thought... |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
nazeer bhai,
thanks for your prompt mail. i am very happy to see that, and just some time back i replied that.
take care and ramadan kareem :-) |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
I'm not doing your so-called "stunts" in your khandaani backyard, am I?
i don't have a backyard bro', i live in a flat on the 9th floor overlooking the sea.
don't mix oranges with apples. k and r have some difference in design and orientation.
as regards no.7 title, if you go back a few months and read your own posts, nobody can beat your nosy and kokke nature in the guise of good humour. many have done wahwah for you including your glassmate kudpi raj, who is not seen around now a days here and he also is not supporting you. maybe he is also sick and tired of your stunts.
i avoided direct argument with you all the time because i have read your articles here and thought you are a genuine person with good manners. but you seem to act as if you own this website, trying to impose your arbitration on every single person who has a hindu name. you also seem to pull legs at every available chance. you say you are busy with your young one (god bestow his mercy on the sweet little one) but you take time to go on a rampage of late, attacking right wing and blah blah blah. i am sure you are not vrs, but you are not better than him.
spreading hatred by attacking fellow mangaloreans by ridiculing their traditions will only make you secluded and end up in a padded cell sooner, i am sure. give due respect for knowledge and don't fly high, keep on the ground. that way you will be happy and others will also respect you. dp maam is a senior person, and he has good humour and knowledge to share. just don't discard him like a used napkin. you never know when you need whose help.
live long. this world is very small and it doesn't take much time to get info about people and their problems. i can see many people affected with 'aadd' here, who need urgent attention.
cheers. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
While Puthran handled it with class, other parties had a little bit of struggle.
-O R Pai
Was it a case of Puthran vs Putran and Puthran showed who is at large and in charge?:) |
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| M.Hussain, Qatar |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Rao- Vinod is not targetting particular community I do speak for science not for religions........VRS
Religion and sceince is inseparable.
Please try to Know the sceintific argument from religion.
If you found unsceintific arguments in religion then its not religion but if you found then it is deabte within yourself to study.
best of luck |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
What we saw over the past 2 days was a classic demo of how someone can run into 'Puthran' moment! - Pai
Virginal Pai, don't make me laugh, man! Whn you try and use English - you're PATHETIC!
I'd met Puthran in 97/98. So please don't poke your dali-tove sniffing nose into matters which hardly concern you!
Somebody, pass me.......a .hanky.... nope, a commie hammer!
Klutz! Go over and over my comments your GREATNESS! KNOW and realize what the context IS! Don't show the SAME predisposition that you share genetically with DP! Look at a proper Cardio - like Dr. Purshottham from Aj Hospital. I wonder when blabbering Shenoy will take a leaf outta his book!
Jeez again! "Puthran moment"! Sometimes I wonder if you were one of the 3 officers with whom NDTV's prime reporter was huddled up with in a bunker for 3 whole days! But knowing you're type, I'd say I'd have better luck finding a brahmin on Mars than you in a bunker! Go bro, do some aasanas!
Plz don't expose your stupidity here ALL over again especially when you don't know what you talk about - BUT YET think you're God's Gift to EYT! |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 1, 2010 |
| Chris you got a point but you should have put in right perspective not in a sarcastic way (probing my profile) yes I am involved with process control oil in water, mercury in gas, salt in crude, H2S, and tail gas analysers which are being installed and commissioned at various locations of Aramco and sabic, as i said before we have a team of international expert guys (when I meet you I will name them) we are representing that company here in Saudi to carry out PLC job at above places, may it be seimens, rockwell automation, ABB, HP, Foxboro etc, we just finished business contract with ABB (installing 10 sulfide on line analysers) anyway Chris, I had to go a long way to learn this process control stuff, and I am sill learning, learning from people, the process is going on untill last my last day on this beautiful planet. my room is reserved at Hotel Melenium Abudhabi from 1st to 03rd November, see you at Adipec, may be I can learn something from you, cheers pal. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
After all, it is acclaimed to be very difficult to comprehend....... So where is the substance (material) of the forms ?
Anyway, this subject matter has been dragged for too long, i will let you sleep over it for several nights (however long it takes).
- Kiran
Morning Kiran and I hope the sun shines as bright as the AUH midday sun thereabouts! Also good to know, you're wide awake for a change!
Lost for words although you TRIED to shed light on a "funda" BUT complicated matters, FULL of metaphors, eh?
Never mind. It is even better to know that you're NOT keeping track of what the CERN expt (Hadron Collider) is trying to find out about quarks, neutinos, leptons etc. So I presume that you don't know the mass of the up-quarks and the down ones! Is that what pulled you short of defining the 'formless'? Know what - finally (if sci-fi stuff is to be believed, people could probably go beyond defining the minutest of the minutiae with - Yeah..... vibration!)
For a moment, I was amazed that you hesitated just short of redefining particle matter.Looks to me like the Greatest move you've ever made, by calling it quits, Kiran! Both of us were venturing into the realms of the unknown - you on your ancient texts (Sanskrut - as your pal says) and me on scientific proof. I'll leave it to your whims and fancies as to who should spend MORE time in sleep!
Nonetheless, bravo! Great move! Kiran, I'm weary of this same old crap - RSS/BJP/Hindu/Muslim/christian.... crap....blah blah....... I'm glad you ask me intelligent questions - and trust me, it has been ages since people have made asked proper Q's.
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| Kiran, USA |
Sep 1, 2010 |
It is 1.28 Pm, and I’m at work, mate – hardly a time to sleep over your “formless” forms! :) --Chris Rego
Well, it is not formless forms. You may need several nights of sleeping over it. After all, it is acclaimed to be very difficult to comprehend.
You agreed that the meaning of the word “manifest” - that which is readily perceived by the senses is “good enough” for you. In that context, is the dream (consisting of “forms” or in your other words possessing “qualities” by virtue of manifestation) perceived by the senses? --Chris Rego
Fair enough. The example is only a metaphor and is not the real thing. The real manifestation of forms which is the empirical world is available to our senses. If you are a dream character in your dream world, the dream character you will hear, see, smell, taste, touch everything in the dream with a dream reality. The real point here is that senses do not perceive, it is only a matter of speech. The actual perception happens in our mind and that is true for the dream world as well.
I did not stop at sub-atomic particles, the list goes on down to quarks to particles yet to be discovered. But everything we have discovered so far are forms of forms. Remember, forms are just shapes/patterns of underlying forms. So where is the substance (material) of the forms ?
Anyway, this subject matter has been dragged for too long, i will let you sleep over it for several nights (however long it takes).
The main point here is that forms have qualities and formless as the word itself suggests is devoid of qualities. This simple thing should be easy for you to understand. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Savyasaachi aka NS
Narendra Modi is modern day hitler, if he ever be PM of India then India will be another Afghanistan or Iraq for sure. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 1, 2010 |
"Modi has blood on his hands he has killed innocents" - Judith L
Dear Judith,
Why are you mixing up things? We are talking about the corruption and lack of efficiency in getting CWG related projects done.
Please don't dilute the subject by brining in random things. Do you have anything to say about the corruption and inability of our PM to get the CWG done on time with high quality Even 'Maatha-Prince' couldn't do anything, that too living in Delhi? What do you say, sister? |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Sep 1, 2010 |
"If you are really related to Monis, I am surprised, becuase monis was a kind and gentle person..." - Puthran.
What we saw over the past 2 days was a classic demo of how someone can run into 'Puthran' moment!
While Puthran handled it with class, other parties had a little bit of struggle.
Finally, this also exposed how some will continue to mock the truth and facts. Good luck with their future posts and credibility! smiles...
Finally, I see that things are coming to a happy end I hope that you guys meet each other soon at UAE.
Peace. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 1, 2010 |
| Rao- Vinod is not targetting particular community I do speak for science not for religions. |
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| K.RAO, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
\"Those who support bachelorhood for religious reasons should understand that nothing can stop Kama from a human, they are just cheating them and the public.\"
It looks like the Virus is targetting a particular community. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Chris, I remember I met Lawrence's BIL (based in Abudhabi) in his office but I dont remember I met any Reuben (I hope you are the same person) yes I know Ivan Pinto. - Puthran
As I'd said, I'd met you between 97 - 99 in Lawrences place in Khobar. Ages back - but if memory serves me right, I guess it was you. Ivan has always been based in Khobar and not in AUH.
By the way, lets settle stuff on an amicable note - in our co and elsewhere too, our GM and COO hire lots of people with varying skill-sets and represent the company as a whole. However, due credit is accorded to the technical team at site - be it a specialist Sub such as Siemens or ABB or Rockwell or whoever.
In that perspective/my opinion, when that's the case, it was erroneous to claim that a sole individual "heads" a crack design/coding team for a whole gamut of the Oil/gas/petrochemical industries varied process applications. THAT was my ONLY objection and unfortunately, we had to waste plenty of KB's of space. When the cha(m)ps from Siemens/ABB/Deltares (for Surge & Hydraulic analysis) talk, the Client sits up and listens! Besides that, everything else is hunky-dory!
I was talking from a purely tech point of view while you meant "heading" the admin/logistics/business development part of your company while there are many competitors around. That's the core issue at hand! Nothing more!
What soured up things was our ever-inquisitive ex-banker from Corp Bank who had to poke his nose in matters in stuff that hardly concerned him or for that matter - will EVER comprehend! Do you think we need to fit up a breath-analyzer on him, monitor his failing OH processing capabilities and reprogram him so that we activate an emergency trip-up to nuke his haywire thoughts when he reaches 'unsteady state'? Or else, imagine the gall of the bilious chap to pass verdict on Engg Colleges! Ha and a double ha! Like he was dean on the Univ boards that he had mentioned yesterday! There was a Mr. Master of the Universe and Rampanna too, who aired out their views in C++/Visual Basic/Jawa and measured doses of Statins respectively!
Anyway, now that glitch is cleared-up, we can move on. ADIPEC should be in Oct or Nov, I'm not too sure, and is just about a 15 mins drive from where I stay. Sure, will come and catch up with you.
Peace, Mr. Puthran. Will definitely catch up with you. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Why is Chris running around like a scalded kitten? Some thing wrong? - Shenoy K.
Chris is quoting my post here and gives credit to one SHENOY K. Kaale saibaa? Who is this Shenoy K? I notice that you are even calling him a doctor by the way. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Putaran has lost his BP so only Putaran or is this game plan by PLC head.
Hey Putran do not live in fools paradise disguising as someone else..
Nagendra - It is time for Puthran to have profile in widkipedia and you know the this net world is not safe, your protected tweets were exposed and even linkden profile of Puthran can be changed also. |
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| B.P. Putran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 1, 2010 |
| Dear Mr. Mumtaz, I met Asadi in his Dubai office, Norman Texiera of Qatar we have business contacts (a Successful businessman from Qatar, I do visit him) Yes I am the same person in oil and gas business with Aramco and Sabic. I will write to your email id as soon as possible. Probably I will meet you in dubai. thanks for your note. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
leave him alone dp maam. he is a stuntman with stents, living life dangerously. - Shenoy R.
Aah, great! It is singular - stent and not stents! So DP or somebody else had to spill the beans in a personal email to you, didn't he? But, that's inevitable when he (if DP) regularly puts his foot in his gob!
Him - well, he never knew when and how to zip it up! But that's OK. After all, he sees the Corp Bank peon for psychiatric treatment and thinks everybody ought to.
But you - with your Hippocratic oath - all bunkum, right? So where are your medical ethics now Shenoy? You ought to be ashamed of yourself for discussing my medical history out here! No wonder they say that once a 7 - always a 7!
Shenoy, trust me, just do your friggin job and leave me to my stent and stunts! I'm not doing your so-called "stunts" in your khandaani backyard, am I? |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Politicians repent during the elections usually and some times afterwards depending on the out come. People have voted him into office with massive majority. Those are the people of his state. They know who is good for them. Don't you think? - If he is a just leader, he should have punished those who had started the Godhra carnage to show his political might and win the elections, Modi has killed innocent women and children, who were not at all involved with Godhra incident.
PS: What do you think of Suresh, the common man Kalmadi? Any repentence is in order? What about people responsible for the 1984 Sikh massacre in Delhi? Do they need to repent as well? - Yes, they too should repent. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 1, 2010 |
RSS, seeing the rapidly falling number of youths in its shakhas and teir lack of intereste and enthusiasm in it activities, had decided to start a nationwide jagran campaign so as to familarise the new generation with sanghs idelology and programmes.
RSS cheif traitor and ISI agent Mohan Bhagwat has laid great emphasis on starting this campaign but due to his connections with ISI he could not materliase because he had feared for his life.
After the involevement of its members in bomb blasts in india and RSS was very keen to divert the issue so it took the ram mandir issue to divert it.
There were 50,000 RSS shakhas in India now it is reduced to 40,000 and getting reduced very rapdily causing great concern to RSS leaders.
Now, they have taken a decision to admit the roles of its members in bomb blasts and seek apology with its members and take oath that it will not induldge in violence and traitor Mohan Bhagwat will be removed as chief & a dalit will be made as its chief, General secretrary will be a Christian and treasurer will be Muslim.
All the brahmins in RSS will have to work with dalits if not they will get red card. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Diwakar - So Muhammad Annavi is true secula and others are communals, why these different rules by Brahmins?
RSS can call anyone as terrorits and when their people are called terrorists they are irritated? idu yava nyaya swami?
Those who support bachelorhood for religious reasons should understand that nothing can stop Kama from a human, they are just cheating them and the public.
Diwakar- What is your opinion about traitor Mohan Bhagwat? |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
An example may make it easier to understand: when you dream, the dream world, which is full of forms, is created by consciousness. The forms have qualities, but those qualities do not belong to the consciousness.
It is 1.28 Pm, and I’m at work, mate – hardly a time to sleep over your “formless” forms! :)
A fallacious example to elucidate what you wanted to say, I’m afraid, Kiran! You agreed that the meaning of the word “manifest” - that which is readily perceived by the senses is “good enough” for you. In that context, is the dream (consisting of “forms” or in your other words possessing “qualities” by virtue of manifestation) perceived by the senses?
You also stated that “The formless gives rise to forms of the world” and stopped short of sub-atomic particles which are forms again! Are you trying to redefine particle physics? Or are you going to come up with some vague Philosophy?
Probably when you wake up from your current slumber (@ real time for both of us), you’ll have better explanations instead of resorting to verbiage and wordplay. However, keep the Sanskrit out of it, please! |
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| Putran, Saudi Arabia |
Sep 1, 2010 |
| Chris, I remember I met Lawrence's BIL (based in Abudhabi) in his office but I dont remember I met any Reuben (I hope you are the same person) yes I know Ivan Pinto. un-necessarity you got involved with my tussle with a fake VRS. I got irritated by your sarcastic remarks. If you are really related to Monis, I am surprised, becuase monis was a kind and gentle person, I am very curious to meet you in Abudhabi at Adipec show in November. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Why is Chris running around like a scalded kitten? Some thing wrong? - Shenoy K.
Ummmm.. not like a scalded kitten, Shenoy. But then, yes, I'm a lil frantic with worry coz I wouldn't want you to do a bypass or angioplasty on poor Ramanna just b'coz he suffered a small bruise on his abs! :)
Imagine Rampanna going on with his life popping in Clopidogrel, Statins, Fenofibrates, Aspirin, ACE inhibitors, Beta-blockers, etc etc....Tsk Tsk!
Just a cold-compress will do, Shenoy! :) |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
It's high time he repent for his sins..-Judith
Politicians repent during the elections usually and some times afterwards depending on the out come. People have voted him into office with massive majority. Those are the people of his state. They know who is good for them. Don't you think?
PS: What do you think of Suresh, the common man Kalmadi? Any repentence is in order? What about people responsible for the 1984 Sikh massacre in Delhi? Do they need to repent as well? |
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| Mumtaz Hussain, Qatar |
Sep 1, 2010 |
..and I lost one of my close friend Lawrence Monis. ....B.P. Puthran
Dear Mr. Puthran, i have been reading your posting from some times specially an argument with VRS. Now when you wrote about Lawrence Monis who died in cross fire in alkhobar it forced me to send this posting bcoz i am a family freind of Mr. Lawrence - he had an agreement with me to purchase commercial premises in MG road worth about Rs. 35 lakhs about 10 years ago. When all dues paid and only registration was pending this unfortunate incident happend. Then i called his wife and told her that not to worry about property all will be registered on her name which was done in good faith.
Are you a person dealing with oil feild biz in KSA and freind of Mr. Karunakar shetty in Dubai?? Other freinds name list is long like Mr. Assadi, Norman like wise. If you are freind of them please do contact on my email abu-rehan@hotmail.com |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Kiran, you try and explain the concept of “emperical reality” to an ordinary worshiper and he would stare at you blankly and curse you having snatched his “reality” away! Further, if you breakdown matter right up to the quarks, leptons and the theorized tachyons and raise questions on the “forms behind the underlying forms”, chances are extremely high that the worshiper might give up worshiping altogether!
Instead of getting into stuff like “emperical reality”, a simpler concept to explain will be the ‘humanly-constructed reality’ and ‘human-independent reality’ concepts.
Let us take your own example (bumping into a wall) and analyze the two types of reality given above. Let’s say a chap bumps into a wall by mistake. Now, that would be a humanly constructed reality. As a consequence of bumping into a wall, the chap suffers a concussion besides splitting his silly nut. Isn’t that an example of ‘human-independent reality’ as effects of the collision are governed by laws of physics?
Also, let us take the example of a worshiper worshiping a statue. By doing so, the worshiper creates a "belief creating reality" – which to him/her is 100% reality – ie, in your own words – “manifestation of certain qualities of the formless into the form” or rather, it falls in the humanly-constructed reality. However, does it really happen? You know the answer to that one, don’t you? But, can the belief-creating reality/humanly-constructed reality be applied to planetary motions or particle physics? Like for eg, if one TRULY believes that the earth revolved around Neptune, in reality would it be so? That would be human-independent reality, wouldn’t it?
Look at our man Original Pai. He TRULY believes that VRS = Chris Rego = Steve = Ravi = Rai and all of us (sorry, I) live in a small cramped room specifically in DXB (later changed to UAE to accommodate the emirate of Abu Dhabi). Is that humanly-constructed or human-independent reality? And what's the truth? Ahem!
As I’d pointed out earlier, reality for people (especially worshipers) definitely hinges on what they believe in. That makes them happy. Call it ‘living in fools paradise’ or whatever, but if it makes them happy – that God hears their worship, so be it!
Isn’t that much simpler than explaining quarks and leptons to a worshiper? Who is really interested in knowing about types of realities? Ask anybody around you - the grind of day to day life is STARK REALITY! When your stomach growls and you need to eat. But if you have no money, you'll have to remain hungry! Nobody will ever say that it is secondary reality or tertiary or human-independent reality or whatever! That's the ONLY reality for everyone - no exceptions! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
hate, master-slave, original-duplicate issues besides imagined notions - Chris Rego
I know Chris did not mean it but the way he has written, it appears that 'Hate, master-slave' topic of O R Pai is not an 'imagined notion' :) |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Sep 1, 2010 |
Have you ever tried praanayaama? - O. R. Pai
Have you ever tried a plateful of Beef Sukka and Shavasana? Try it mate. It should purge you of all your hate, master-slave, original-duplicate issues besides imagined notions. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
"Nee MayeyoLago ninnoLu maayeYo..." - O R Pai
O R Pai!
What a day to post that lyric which mesmerizes us when heard from the melodious voice of Vidyabhushana!
Kanakadasa has used his birthplace i.e. Kaaginele on two occassions in his compositions. One in the same song that you mentioned "........Asamabhava Kaaginele Aadi Keshavaraya, usuraninnaLavalla ella ninnoLago... Krishnaaaaa....." and "..... Kaagineleyaagi Keshavana naa kaNDe, ishTu dina ee vaikuNTha.....".
I will consider Kanakadasa, Purandaradasa and various other ancient Kannada composers to be more of social reformers than poets. I believe you listen to their compositions or have heard in the past. They either address social issues or write simple common sense which can slip from most of ours mind. Even better is, they simply did not compose it and store in archives but went about singing the same to towns and villages and thus spreading the message. They are very similar to Sant Tukaram, Sant Gnyaaneshwar, Sant Namdev of the Marathi Abhangs fame. I don't know if you listen Marathi but try listening "Awaghachi sansaara...." composed by SG. Should be available on YouTube. |
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| Judith L, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
| Modi has blood on his hands he has killed innocents. The Courts in India may not punish him, but the Almighty's court he cannot skip punishment. It's high time he repent for his sins.. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Sep 1, 2010 |
leave him alone dp maam.-K.shenoy
Yes Sir. I am leaving him alone in this forum.
I was reading a book review. I understand that one Muhammad Annavi has written the Tamil Version of the Mahabharata, who is also the author of Bharata Ammanai.
Another book was by Nallapillai titled " Nallapillai Bharatam".
"This proves once again that Indian culture is one and indivisible and any talk of an Aryan-Dravidian divide is disruptive."
The 13949 verses divided in to 131 sargas is ofcourse a gigantic work.
Of many issues dealt there in, I am reminded of the advice by Bhishma to Yudhistira from the death bed (of arrows) in the Shanti parva that Caste should not be taken in to consideration while dealing with a person.
The tale of Sreekari guides us of need for patience; Meybodha on evil of amassing wealth, Gautami to avoid vengefulness.
Thank you k.shenoy. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Dear 'VRS',
You are right. I don't exist! I am just a figment of imagination. As 16th century kannada poet Kanakadasa sang - "Nee MayeyoLago ninnoLu maayeYo..."
Does it make you a happy man in your little apartment in UAE ? smiles... |
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| Steve, Australia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
"Instead of appreciating his work, you guys are expecting him to change the world over-night and make it perfect !! As we all know, social reforms will go on as long as there are human beings" - American Pai's belief that the head-priest of Pejawar is on a social service mission.
Dear Original Pai,
The head-priest of Pejawar is a great personality. As an individual, he seems to pack much in his daily routine. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that he is sincere in what he is doing.
But what social service are you talking about? Why can't I see it?
Does visiting the dalits and encouraging them (the Indian law calls it coercion) to take on Vaishnava Deeksha amount to social service?
He has been talking against "conversions" for decades. Such talks easily instigate the ignorant people to hate ordinary Christians.
Even though he is a very sincere man, his overtures to the Dalits unfortunately are not social service.
Using his own words, he hopes that the Vaishnava Deeksha (under Indian law it is conversion by coercion) will prevent them from getting converted to the other foreign religions. So he is busy converting them to his religion.
I wish the head-priest well. But his ilk has woken up a bit late.
The dalits are super-smart now. They know who comes around for real social service and who comes around for conversion by coercion.
By the way, someone with close links has informed me that the head-priest takes along a personal cook belonging to his own community - so that he does not need to eat food cooked by anyone else.
The dalits have seen this too. The invited cameraman from the media does not see it, of course. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Chris, my friend from UAE,
Have you ever tried praanayaama?
This is probably the second time in less than 2 months we are seeing you in a very 'troubled' state. We are worried about you, my friend.
Dude - It's okay. We all make mistakes. 'Puthran' moment can happen to all of us. You need to calm down, accept the mistake and move on. There is no point in getting all hysterical.
I really hope you feel better, my friend. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Who is telling here that I am divding on caste and creed... ware waaaa.... Pai your post is a clear proof for anyone what is your aim and I doubt that you are in Ullala Sankada Aache..
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Pai - Someone in this forum had told that they yet to meet someone from USA and that includes you also, why you do not come up with your details and make it available in this forum and I did invited several times to come to Belgium and meet me. Take this challenge man and you can afford because you have 6 digit salary. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Did you also know that 'smitha rai', 'steve', 'ravi' and 'vrs' - all these are creations of a well-known 'dashaavataari' on this forum?
-O R Pai
He is not dashaavataari. I think he is 'bele ijjandina achari' [Baaleda bonda kettonduller] |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
So what do you plan to do with Ramanna -Chris
Why is Chris running around like a scalded kitten? Some thing wrong? |
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| Nazeer, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
I have composed a Krishna eulogy. Hope you liked it- Nagendra shenoy
Nagendra, I have already complimented on your cute poem.
As far as pakistan cricket is concerned, their whole team involved in scandals, its better not to talk about it, infact I am really allergic to pakistani matters.'
If you have anything about our Indian palyers, I am waiting for your thoughtful comments. By the way there is a rumor that Shaina Nehwal will be joining bollywood soon. |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| You are welcome Mr. Pai, the so called scada, HMI,CNC,MCC, DCS, all part of PLC, I dont have to learn from Rego, God has blessed me with honour, health wealth, helped so many indian souls, gave employment to many people including the so called scada engineers, still they are working, if anyone needs proof, I am ready to meet him Besides I have travelled world wide gained lot of experience and had a chance to meet many interesting people of our industry, Truth is a bitter pill for those who cant digest some ones name and fame. what ever has been written in the proffessional websites or social pages FB are true, you can see some of my family members connected to my FB while concluding here I seek GOD's forgiveness using the word "I"Its not me but Its "HE" who gave me this status to reach to this height. by the by I have invited Mr. Nazeer to my office on the 09th of September, anymore proof required Mr. UAE and VRS |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Dear Mr. DPK, I hung my head in shame when some of these guys in this column hide their identity for fear of blacklash from RAW, or IB, I call upon all those Indians(this note is not addressed to those indians who gave up Indian citizenship but still hang on with India, abuses dignitaris, if he has any grouse, grudge against any group or individuals he should try to open the dialogue with those concerned parties, sheer absuing, shouting like a mad man here would serve no purpose. remove your negetiveness in your body, mind and soul, be a better person VRS, Unfortunately I did not meet Hamid at Lawrences house, sorry. he was killed on saturday and Thursday I was in his office, he was very gentle, liked by each and everyone, a great soul. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Your sentence clearly says that qualities of the formless manifest themselves in the form! --Chris Rego
Let me attempt one more time to dispel your confusion. Here is my sentence again.
"it is not the snake that is worshiped, it is the formless behind the form that is worshiped, which manifests certain qualities in this form"
The main problem is when you use the word "of" implying a sense of belonging. So, let us analyze the two parts of this sentence.
Formless behind the form: The formless gives rise to forms of the world. As in our previous discussion, formless is the underlying reality of the secondary reality of all forms.
Now, the second part:
"which manifests certain qualities in this form"
The formless manifests as forms with qualities. The formless has no qualities, and the manifestation has qualities. Even though every manifestation is but an expression of the formless, and the formless is present in forms or, in other words, the formless is the (underlying) reality of the forms, the qualities belong to the forms.
Now you can see the complexity of understanding this fundamental reality. An example may make it easier to understand: when you dream, the dream world, which is full of forms, is created by consciousness. The forms have qualities, but those qualities do not belong to the consciousness.
If it is hard to comprehend after this, perhaps it is time to sleep over it and ponder it after a while. |
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| Siva, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Mr. Gowda, I am surprised by your questions because if you are a Hindu going to the temples, you would know that those old practices do not exist today.
My practical answers to your questions here:
The so called Hindu swamiji can he arrange mass marriages between upper caste people and dalits as did by Basavanna?
I think this is uncalled for. What is required is not eradication of castes but discriminations. The human race historically congregates in to groups based on certain characteristics. Any such move needs to be seriously thought about.
Can he make arrangements to draw water from a common well in villages meant for upper castes?
Absolutely. It is not just possible but essential. If there are villages like that, it is necessary to get that done and we dont need swamiji for that. Any leader worth his salt can take up this because there are strong laws. Even you can take up this if this is not done for political gain.
Can he allow these people to enter caste Hindu temples?
I am surprised with this question. I dont know of any temple that asks which caste you are as long as one goes clean. Just in case such a temple exists, then the temple authorities need to be told about the law. It is not an option. They have to allow. otherwise they need to face law. Again Swamiji is not needed for this.
Can he allow these dalits to learn Sanskrit and make them pujaris in temples?
I think the answer to the former would be a strong yes. But I am not sure if society is ready yet to have a Dalit as a Pujari in temple. For instance, how many Dalits are ready for that. How many can stay without eating meat - and how many of them really want this profession?
Can he make a dalit as madathipathi in his Asthamata?
Same as above.
Can he make aware of the so called Hindu sacred book bhagavatgeetha to these people and bring all Hindus on one common day to temple every week and conduct prayers as other religions are doing in this country?
Great Idea. I am sure there are many Dalits who are aware and know about Geetha more than you and I. Weekly meetings. I doubt Hindus because each of the devout Hindus have their own way of praying to God
I appreciate, atleast now you have started visiting these neglected people of God and if you find solutions to the above issues, you are really a great God.
You dont know about this Swamiji. He has done this many decades back. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
my close friend Lawrence Monis.-B.P.Puthran
DP, it was at Lawrence Monis' place - the level above his Al Sagr Office in Al Khobar that I'd met your pal, Puthran! Or was it AFTER Lawrence had moved his place a couple of minutes away into a new apartment in early 99?
DP, you'll remember that about 2 years back I'd mentioned that late Lawrence was family! REAL close too!
Hey man, Puthran, his kids Llewlyn and Samantha were kids back then - but all prim and proper and grown-up now. If you're in touch with them, just ask them if they remember Reuben (my first name, while Chris is my second). Have you been to his place in Madanthyar? - Just asking, mate!
Puthran, you must be knowing Lawrence's BIL, Ivan Pinto very well. Give him a buzz and ask him how we are related. It is MUCH closer than you'd ever know or dream of!
DP, rules of the game - NEVER OPEN your bankers mealy-mouth unless and until you know on whose side the odds are overwhelmingly stacked! Don't drop names and cite LinkedIn/FB instances. Let our man Pai not add masala to something that he knows-not and yet believes - JUSt coz he believes what ever you write! Poor fella, you say - "yes sir" and he will bleat - 3 bags full, although he sits many miles and lat-long away from you - all based on your expert bankers judgment which incidentally is mortgaged too!
How could the Original Pai establish and verify credentials save on your say-so? He is another chap who incidentally believes that Australia is the latest acquisition of the UAE and will be made into another emirate of the UAE by the end of Ramadan!
DP, JUST today - you showed your ignorance out in the open thrice! Will you ever learn to zip it up? |
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| Tony, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Algeria
How are non-muslims treated in these countries? Muslims do not respect the religious liberty of non-muslims. Bangladesh's treatment of Hindus, Buddhists and Christians, Malaysia's treatment of Hindus, Turkeys treatment of Christians, Egypts treatment of coptic Christians is proof of the second class status of non-muslims in Muslim countries. |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
I doubt with that peon's empty cerebral hemisphere in you, it may be a blank result;-))
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leave him alone dp maam. he is a stuntman with stents, living life dangerously. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
How you ended up in "Nitte" for engineering instead of better colleges like RV, PESIT, BMS, MS Ramayya.... - DP at his nonsense as usual!
DP, have I told you that I got a seat in MCE - Malnad College of Engg, Hassan for E and I (Electrical & Electronics) under Mysore Univ when I first joined - and that was on merit when the cut off rank for ANY engg seat in the WHOLE of Karnataka was below 1200! Hardly 5-6 years down the line, lots of colleges opened up stupid reservations such as - 'Konkani speaking quota' etc and people who go ranks of 12,000 - 18,000 cold get a seat Manipal! [MIT]
However, since I didn't quite like Hassan as a place (although MCE had a great faculty, sports facilities such as a swimming pool, a Hockey ground, a great gym etc), I quit and took up my entrance exams the next year again and chose ONLY Nitte for Mechanical Engg.
Tx for asking! If nothing, it shows you are JUST another ignoramus whose tongue and imagination go wild with a tipple of the blessed spirits!
As I told you before, you hardly know me from Adam's Apple although we have met on some occasions and have had a drink or two!
Incidentally, don't speak of colleges you haven't even had the fortune of setting foot into and gauge them like it is Corp Bank's mortgaged property, As Pai would corroborate, B'lore University has a yearly graduation system while M'lore and Mysore had the semester system! Meaning - if a chap in B'lore Univ could carry his 1st year papers right up to his 4th year and even beyond. In M & M Univ's, one would get nuked for carrying a 1st sem paper into his 4th or 5th sem!
DP! Time and again, I have told you to avoid showing ample proof of your Foot-in-the-Mouth Syndrome. YET, you persist! Gosh! You MUST be loving gnawing the corns on your gnarled feet! I guess ONLY the self-styled "GREAT" can afford that luxury or inconvenience!
Good luck with you and your genius pal from Al Khobar! Unfortunate but true, you haven't really hob-nobbed with SCADA specialists from Siemens or ABB! hence, you pass verdict and say "aye" JUST on a link/website/claim!
P.S.: I hope your Bank peon shrink didn't ask you to pose me such a stupid Q! Pity on you, DP! |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
It is sad to hear that you are using the name of deceased person died in cross firing in Al-Khobar to justify your claim - V R Shetty
We all have seen the LinkedIn URL posted by Chris Rego. There is little doubt that B P Putran is one more Mangalorean who has earned a name for himself in his chosen profession. Accept my wishes Sir and may you inspire the Mogaveera community in particular and Mangalorean youngsters on a whole.
V R Shetty's horrible claims can be proven wrong by B P Putran now. All he has to do is, login to his LinkedIn Profile, change his surname from Putran to Puthran (an H is included) and update it. The URL is anyways known to all of us. That will show us how much of truth or false is present in VRS' horrific claims.
But my only wish is hope a day won't come when the writers of this forum have to possess a special UID Card or give Birth Certificate number to random people to prove their identity and existence. Only the webmaster can ensure that this doesn't happen. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Krishna was bigger play boy than anyone until this date? - The Guru - Atheist.
Did you read the penultimate line? 'Rubbishing this is no blasphemy'. So take some more pleasure of rubbishing :)
After seeing that inspiring tune on Doordarshan sponsored by 'Lok Seva Sanchar Parishad' where sportspersons like P T Usha, B S Venkat, E A S Prasanna, Milkha Singh, Prakash Padukone, Sunil Gavaskar, Kapil Dev all ran exchanging mantle from one another, I literally started calling Kapil as 'KapilaNNa'. Does it mean I am Kapil Dev's younger brother? I also grew up seeing Shaktiman, He Man, Spider Man, Common Man et al. Similarly, I saw the Mahabharata of the B R Films, Krishna of Ramanand Sagar. All these characters have interested me as all are about power, strength, intelligence, positive influence etc. So one among aaaaaaaaaaaaall these is that poor chap called Krishna.
Who told you I worship him? Don't make such false allegations as my other childhood favourites like He Man and Shaktiman and others might feel I am being partial!
But now that you told me Krishna was a PLAYBOY, nothing can stop me from worshipping him. I don't have Krishna Idol. But that's OK, I will keep NICHOLAS SARKOZY's newspaper cutout. I have already ordered Oodubatti, Karpoora, Kempu Kumkuma, Hoovu (alankaarakke), Phala Vastu (neivedyakke), hattu roopayiya hattu noTugaLu haagoo ondu roopayiya ondu naaNya (bhaTrige Rs. 101 dakshiNe) |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Thanks for the best wishes Nazeer Saab. Like they say, "I am Fine Thank You", me in that mode as of now. I hope you are following the scandal-hit Pakistan tour of England. Let us know what you feel of it. I have composed a Krishna eulogy. Hope you liked it :)
Chris,
Not cheesed off with you or anybody brother.
Coming to Pakistan Cricket, do you remember atleast a 6-month period when it has been completely 'crisis-free'? Their Cricket has always been a miniature version of their National State of affairs i.e. 'Always in news for wrong reasons'. Pakistan Cricket needs a leader like the inspirational Wasim Akram or Imran Khan. Their one call or roar could knit the team together, such was their charisma.
Indians on the other hand should not grin too much on Pakistan's plight as our own CWG 2010 is in a mess and the '2-month long April Fool' aka IPL is no charity but 'legal gambling' by taking Ministers and Businessmen into confidence. Harsha Bhogle says "Disappointed but not surprised" over the current disaster. Why will he be surprised when he knows well what IPL was all about!
But Mr. Asif Ali Zardari (or shall we call him AAZ?) saying "These guys have put our heads down in shame" is surprising. This AAZ, popularly called 'Mr. 10%' is the same guy who offered a 'hug' and described Shrimati Sarah Palin as 'gorgeous' when his own gorgeous wife died less than an year ago. He did not even know how to behave and what words to use while representing his own country on a diplomatic tour!
Oh yeah, flipping statements on the 26/11 matter, rejecting and then admitting that Kasab is a Pakistani, using our dossiers to wipe the inappropriate place, launching his son Bilawal in Birmingham when his own countrymen are suffering from the worst ever floods are all a matter of 'National pride' and has given reasons to 'hold heads sky high'.
Banning Pakistan as requested by some quarters is no solution as that will not be the end of bookies. Rest of the Cricket playing nations too are formed by human beings who can easily be bought by money. Till the time Cricket is a Business and not a Sport, corruption in various forms will continue. It can be as simple as what side of the coin will the Captain call at toss or who will face an 'injury' between the 40-45th over! Ricky Ponting has once again BIG MOUTHED and is using this incident as 'Whites v/s Sub-continent' when he has conveniently forgotten that the first ones to be involved in match-fixing were his own team-mates - Shane Warne, Mark Waugh along with Tim May. He also forgot that Damien Martyn revealed that the reason for his shocking retirement amidst Ashes 2006 was his ugly verbal spat with team-mate Justin Langer and this was revealed for a 'few dollars' offered by a local tabloid and ironically, Ricky Ponting himself was the captain of that team then!!
Anyways, there are talks of 'cleansing' making rounds as if it will be done by our Sachin's newly endorsed product 'Ujala Techno Bright'. The ODI Series between Pakistan and England should be called off or the accused players should be suspended from all forms and levels of Cricket and if found guilty, life ban should be slapped on them. The forefathers of these Pakistani players created a separate nation based on RELIGION and during the Holy Month of Ramzaan, these players have got into such cheap acts of selling their Nation's pride, the same nation for which their forefathers fought tooth and nail. One can only hope that Shoaib Malik will not come forward and repeat the speech he made after losing T20 WC 2007.
But did you notice something? Fixing can happen in Cricket even with no balls! (Pun intended) :) |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Steve alias Ravi,
Your posts are running dry. You need to have more contents. Just to let you know - repeating the word 'RSS' doesn't create any contents in your posts. You need to start answering the questions raised, you need to start providing the historical facts and other references.
Hope you feel better. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Dear Putran,
Thanks for your very balanced, mature responses to sarcastic remarks on you and your qualifications.
Also, thanks for not taking the bait by 'imaginary' characters on this forum to divide readers based on caste and start a caste-war.
Peace. |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
"By the way, is it true that you actually live in Dubai? " - Shenoy maam to imaginary 'VRS'.
Shenoy maam,
Let me make a small correction. Instead of 'Dubai', make it 'UAE'. Did you also know that 'smitha rai', 'steve', 'ravi' and 'vrs' - all these are creations of a well-known 'dashaavataari' on this forum?
Smiles... |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
my close friend Lawrence Monis.-B.P.Puthran
You reminded me of a great soul.
That is one of the many incidents that made me wonder at the cruel fate or the most unexpected way Yama and dhootas work!
There was no cause or reason for him to be killed at that particular point of time at that place. Is it end May, 2005?
Have you come across Panakaje Hamid on any friday at Lawrence' house? |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Chris,
You have gone too far. Just look at your background. How you ended up in "Nitte" for engineering instead of better colleges like RV, PESIT, BMS, MS Ramayya....
Just look at the other person on whom you tried to throw the mud. You have drawn blank.
Try Rewind. I doubt with that peon's empty cerebral hemisphere in you, it may be a blank result;-))
Don't think that you are the genius of all. |
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| The Guru - Athiest, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Nagendra Shenoy
Did you ever seen Krishna in person or have seen any person who has seen Krishna? Why people always fantasize these self made lords? Did Krishna told to celebrate birthday? Krishna was bigger play boy than anyone until this date? How can such a play boy be lord to millions of people? Why people will not understand that ultimate religion is science. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
I did not say qualities OF the formless; qualities are manifest in form. Every quality and quantity indicates form. The form manifests qualities. - Kiran
Oh now, you backtrack, say that I'm struggling with your lingo (that'll be the day!) and say you didn't say whatever you did, eh? that's why I said - READ your stuff again and let me know what it implies. Your sentence clearly says that qualities of the formless manifest themselves in the form!
Probably, if you had rephrased your sentence, this debate wouldn't have cropped up. |
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| Nazeer, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Nagendra,
Is this beautiful poem written by you?
Short but sweet. Welcome back to EYT.
Regards,
Nazeer |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
I got this recoginition because of my contribution to business community, - Putran
Being into Oil, Gas and Infrastructure - Water & Power, and as I'd mentioned before, "heading" design and systems integration holds a different connotation for me than heading - as in Sales & Business Development.
Nonetheless, that's cool, mate and explains a lot. I'm sold, and no more questions absolutely
Cheers. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Aug 31, 2010 |
BP Puthran - Now you have shown that you really ride Konkan railway with my dubai trip. Where I have mentioned that I will come to Dubai? read my comments again and again.
Before asking me why you do not go to your home land (and you do have passport of India) and fight against all these terrorists and then you can brag.
Freedom fighters are only Brahmins, looks like you have not read history better have some time to read history in fact Brahmins were acting as tratiors of India helping British.
It is sad to hear that you are using the name of deceased person died in cross firing in Al-Khobar to justify your claim, please do not stoop to that level, non technical person can head PLC that can be agreed (but hard to digest) but do not claim someone died. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Ashraf UAE - Better you direct that question to Brahmins Maha Guru traitor Mohan Bhagwat what is the critera to be Indian? he will tell you at drop of hat that he should embrace Hindu religion.
So that clarifies your stand on secular. |
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| Nagendra Shenoy, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Not born in palatial bungalows
Not brought up in riches
Equality was the policy
Slayed at will the witches
Approach was authoritarian
'Power Distance' was alien
Teachings were major
Practiced 'Dignity of Labour'
Always wore a smile
To be beaten was so agile
Rubbishing this claim is no blasphemy
Enjoy Sri Krishna Janmashtami |
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| B.P. Putran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Hello Mr. Chris, FYI you dont have to be a 100% technical guy to lead the department, experience makes man perfect, hope you are aware of this fact, I dont want to use the word "I" here but its a fact that we are representing two of largest companies in Uk and India to carry out PLC job at both Aramco and Sabic. let us forget these personal stuff, since you tried to probe me I had to answer you back, Let me share you another bit of information (your reply to DPK) its no wonder sales people gets who is who recognition, I got this recoginition because of my contribution to business community, I sold my process control insrumentation, sytem integration company to a shaikh in Riyadh, and since then I am working As GM for this company, hope I clarified your saracastic remark. above statement mentioned are "WIHTOUT PREJUDICE" |
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| Kiran, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
"it is not the snake that is worshiped, it is the formless behind the form that is worshiped, which manifests certain qualities in this form" --Kiran
Who spoke about "certain qualities" of the formless and who said it is a "manifestation" in the form? YOU, right? Neeve allva, saar? --Chris Rego
I see you are still struggling with my earlier sentence. Don't worry, it is a bit complicated. I did not say qualities OF the formless; qualities are manifest in form. Every quality and quantity indicates form. The form manifests qualities. The formless is the efficient cause and the material cause, but is nirguNa (no qualities) and avyakta (un-manifest). I looked up m-w.com as you suggested and it had the following meaning for manifest: readily perceived by the senses ... that is good enough for me. I used the word in the sense of vyakta and avyakta (expressed or manifest and unmanifest). A form can be understood as an expression available for perception by our senses.
Now, do you understand my original sentence ?
Chris, have patience. I did post a response to your questions. mangalorean.com will display it when they give it a go. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
I don't need to prep up Christianity, mate! It has and will 'stand' by itself. A mere mortal like me can do little to 'prep' it up. --Chris Rego
What ?!! It will be difficult to maintain a conversation if you are unable to get the exact meaning from my sentences. I did not say prep up Christianity, I said prep up your idea of your religion - your understanding of your religion. There is a huge difference between what is out there and what little we understand and build concepts in our minds, based on our incremental understanding (little by little).
"the form is a superimposition and not a reality." -- translation
doesn't your usage of the words "manifests certain qualities" negate what the above-mentioned text says about "not a reality"? That is - the worshiper BELIEVES that certain traits/qualities of the formless will come-on to the object of worship. Doesn't that translate to 'REALITY'? --Chris Rego
Since the context of the above translation is meditation, it is conveying the difficulty of our minds which are often compared to the unsteady, unpredictable nature of a monkey. A beginner practicing meditation can have his/her mind wander all over the place, if the dhyana vishaya or the object of meditation is not sufficiently complex, like a difficult mantra. As the mind comes under greater control by a regular practice of meditation, one can move on to easier and simpler mantras or subtler objects (like a mental image of a candle flame, etc). Patanjali Yogasutras also recommend that one go through various stages of subtlety before one is ready for Nirvikalpa Samadhi or Asamprajnata Samadhi. Even then, there is no meditation on the formless.
The second part of your question deals with superimposition not being a reality. While superimposition is probably a translation close enough to the concept of upaadhi or upadaana. However, the translation of not a reality is a poor translation to the concept of maya or mithya. The empirical reality of the world is also a reality, but considered a secondary reality. We all know instinctively that it is a reality; if we bump into a wall we will get bruised. It is a secondary reality because, its reality depends on an underlying reality. The metaphors used can confuse people into misunderstanding the concept of maya/mithya. If I give an example of the image we see in a mirror is a secondary reality of what it actually reflects, then it will give rise to the idea that the secondary realities are illusions or not real. However, if I give an example of water being a secondary reality because its reality depends on Hydrogen and Oxygen (H20), then it is a little more appropriate, because water is also a reality and the underlying Hydrogen and Oxygen are also realities. Water can never be a reality manifest unless Hydrogen and Oxygen are manifest and they in turn cannot be real unless there is reality in electrons, protons and neutrons, which depends on the reality of quarks, and so on. Water is just the name of a particular arrangement (form) of Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms. Therefore, one could argue that there is no water only Hydrogen and Oxygen (in some pattern). Further, one could argue that atoms are only an arrangement of electrons, protons and neutrons, and so on, which are all forms of the underlying form. So we see only form; Where is the substance of the form ?
Let me stop here. I think you got the idea (correctly, I hope). |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Dear Ashraf, a befitting reply to VRS, congrats Ashraf you opened up pandoras box. |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Hello, certainly I will make it a point to visit you, in your note in this column you informed the readers that you live in Dubai go back and look at your own statements. based on your statement I invited you to meet me, I will visit you in Belgium mark my word provided you let me know your location. I wont brag here, I just replying to you, for your outburst against freedom fighters who are Brahmins. voilence in any forms are against humanity, Saudi arabia herself is victim of terrorism by certain elements based in Afghanistan and yemen. and I lost one of my close friend Lawrence Monis. your own statement makes me to feel that you support voilence and terrorism, whah, whah. Why cant you join RSS band wagon, SIMI, or some Mujahideen organisation? thats a right place for you, what you doing in a western country fighting to eliminate terrorism on this plannet. |
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| K.RAO, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
"When naaga is worshiped, it is not the snake that is worshiped, it is the formless behind the form that is worshiped, which manifests certain qualities in this form", doesn't your usage of the words "manifests certain qualities" negate what the above-mentioned text says about "not a reality"? That is - the worshiper BELIEVES that certain traits/qualities of the formless will come-on to the object of worship. Doesn't that translate to 'REALITY'? Your clarifications/thoughts, please."
Sorry - a slight deviation from the discussion!
There is one more belief that Nagaaradhane is to satisfy the departed souls of our ancestors by praying to naaaga souls of ancestors may be pleased. This again may not be acceptable to those who do not believe in rebirths (Punarjanma) or theory of KARMA.
However more noteworthy and dearer to my heart is that- we come across many 'NAAGA BANA" or assigned forest for "naaga" all over the coastal belt. It is forbidden to cut trees here and people fear to tread thru these small gardens. The ritual apart, had this custom previaled all over India we could have saved majority of our depleted forest wealth. Here we must applaud the wisdom of our ancestors for their contribution in preserving the environment! |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Hello Chris, anyone can learn anything with experience and the available of technology in this world, yes indeed i am very open in my profile (never claimed that I am an Engineer) but at the same time I am leading a group of engineers as head of the department, any issues Mr. Rego, we just finished the site visit of the plant you named in your writings for system integration (sabic) we dont provide false statements to public forums including FB, Linkedin or tweeter like someone does here in this column, bye the by i will be in Abudhabi for Adipec show with my VP. Hope to see you over there. |
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| Nazeer, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Nagendra Shenoy.
Dear Nagendra, where are you brother? I haven't seen any activities from you these days. I am really missing you in EYT.
Please join us soon.
Have a good time.
Regards,
Nazeer |
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| Guru, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
The spelling is Pratibha or Prathibha as that word is pronounced. It is not "Prathiba".
Please rewrite hundred times;-) |
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| Nazeer, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Dear brother K. Shenoy, Thank you for your kind invitation for the friendship.
I am accepting it wholeheartedly.
In fact I have already forgotten your past comment and I don't even remember what was the subject then.
Friendship is a horizon - which expands whenever we approach it.
I will be sending an e-mail shortly. Please reply when you recieve it.
With Warm Regards,
Nazeer
(nazeeradil@gmail.com) |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
DP, what a crappy whinging chap you've turned out to be! Don't you know that ANYBODY can have their professional profile on LinkedIn? One doesn't even need to be a professional to get on in there! An award for Sales is different.
Incidentally, I didn't hear a whimper on my previous mail regarding questionable claims! I didn't expect much from you in the first place coz you are as open-minded as a blind blinkered horse! If you were to have this lil grey matter, you'd have realized that a non-technical chap would hardly "head" systems integration for SA and SABIC. But then, that's the way ex-bankers are, I guess! Just because they fork out depositors moolah, they think they know-all and own everything! Irna mishtik atthe ye, dhani! Au professional Hazard! :)
Awards are given for Sales and that's where our pal gets a mention! Get wise a bit and don't give in to your syndrome in each and every post! Go and see that bank Peon, light some candles or Agarbatthis..... breathe in deep... do some Yoga.
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Mr. Putran, no issues with whatever you do. It was JUST that I found that a non-technical "heading" systems integration a bit too hard to digest. If you'd been a lil more honest and said - Sales, I'd have been OK.
By saying - "I drew a blank" on LinkedIn, it looks like you didn't quite comprehend me. I pasted the ONLY profile I found and after going through it, found that it looked highly unlikely for "heading" .. you know what!
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DP, don't forget the Yoga AFTER seeing your Bank Peon Shrink! :) |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
PS: Ramanna is hospitalised and the surgeon is planning on emergency surgery. - Shenoy R.
Did Ramanna sms/chat with you on his Blackberry from the ICU, Shenoy'maam?
The bodybuilder punched your pal on the stomach, you said, right? So what do you plan to do with Ramanna - a bypass or install a pacemaker? I hope Ramanna has some insurance and you're OK with a delayed payment! :) |
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| K.RAO, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
"Just curious.....are you by chance a Free Mason"
Dear Dony ,
I am humbled by your remarks. No I am not a Free Mason.
rgds |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Chris, pichakk!!! Even an ordinary Bank peon can understand your brain condition. - DP
My, oh My! Don't tell me that you were going to your Corporation Bank's Peon all this time for some serious ailment upstairs, JUST to save a few paise's here and there!
Looks like he (Corp Bank Peon) has done a wonderful job on you as your "pichakk" bears ample testimony to the fact! Tx but no tx, DP, you can stick with your Bank Peon shrink.
Another Foot-in-the-Mouth Syndrome, case, I'm afraid! |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Qualities are present only in forms. This puts a big question on your intelligence or lack thereof. - Kiran
Look what you wrote - O' great mind (besides DP)! - "it is not the snake that is worshiped, it is the formless behind the form that is worshiped, which manifests certain qualities in this form"
Take a GOOD look at your statement, open www.m-w.com, type in "manifest" and you'll realize that you've put you foot in your mouth. Who spoke about "certain qualities" of the formless and who said it is a "manifestation" in the form? YOU, right? Neeve allva, saar?
Quick gun Kiran (M'lore's answer to Quick Gun Murugan), that's what happens when you get TOO quick on the draw - like those fabled Westerns. You shoot yourself in the foot and as first-aid - you have to shove it right up your mouth!
After that no-show, It should be I who should be asking questions about your "intelligence". |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Let the fake person also join Chris if at all he is in Dubai. 03rd September. - Puthran
Tx for the invite but I live in Abu Dhabi and have some prior commitments on the appointed date. Sorry I looked you up on LinkedIn - but then you must realize that all that is in open space.
Nope, I didn't look up our Belgian connection. He had made his agenda clear - that he had an axe to grind against certain 'elite' class/es owing to some injustice done to his near and dear ones. Now, don't ask me how far that is true coz if I were to type in the pertinent words, Google would hang-up!
If you'd like to be in touch with me, please drop a line to the webmaster and he would oblige you with my email address. |
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| Puttur Dinesh, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Savyasachi
No one cares if Obama is Muslim or Mormon, the issue is presidents loud mouth. he has to give his opinion on everything be it the black professor's arrest at Harvard or the mosque. He could have just said everyone has the right to practice their relgion and stayed away from mentioning the mosque at ground zero. The next day he retracts his statement. Doesn't the President have any other issues than being a judge between two parties. November election will show who is the Daddy and in 2012 it will "No you can't Obama" |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| BP Putran - I am PIO - person of Indian origin and on what basis are you trying to tell the Muslims while sitting in Saudi Arabia that they have to abjure violence - that is called duplicity and why shall I visit Dubai -if you are that keen to come you can visit me in Belgium - Why are you such a bragger? or are you trying to impress someone in this forum? |
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| Jayan, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
We do not find a single muslim educated to openly condemn the Kashmiri seperatists. ......Om shetty
You are being a educated Did you denounce water tight compartment of 'casteism' - an inhuman social system??? |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
is it your home made masala or RSS masala-V R S
Actually you should know what masala you have used V R S. If you have forgotten that so soon, no problem. People remember your posts with the same old stale masala about R S S.
By the way, is it true that you actually live in Dubai? Why are you ashamed to admit that man? |
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| Adil, Qatar |
Aug 31, 2010 |
It would have been very difficult for it to survive the modern day pseudo secularism if it was not for the RSS to put the resistance.Every Hindu must be thankful to RSS. ....Om shetty
What about BC's, daliths and adivasis.??? |
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| Ashraf, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
we need you in this forum for secular mask with communal aim. Your comment has shown your true colour that RSS chelas are always behind back they do not come in front. ..............VRS to shenoy
Mr. VRS; your point is that if one has to be secular the first qualification he should be non-brahmin. |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Nazeer saheb, I replied to your email id from my aol account with my contact number, please visit my office 24th cross, king Abdulaziz boulevard, ALKhobar. Waiting for your confirmation. |
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| B.P. Puthran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Prathibaji, you are wasting your time and energy shouting here but nothing is going to change the system. Instead of wasting our time here accusing each other, absuing one particular community or religion, questioning the identity of real people, it would be better we discuss here so many burning issues back home like child labor, dowry system, bride burning, corruption, degradation of envoirnment inclding deforstation, clean drinking water, health care for poor etc., some people here knows only hurling accuses but personal contribution towards soceity at large is zero. so my request with you guys, please let us join together and find a solution for those burning issues neglected by our political leaders for long time, In this respect I salute Sr. judith. |
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| B.P. Putran, Saudi Arabia |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Hello DP Kumar, I feel that Chris Rego is a proffessional man he knows what is talking about, but instead of probing me he should have probed some fake people here in this column spitting venoms falsly claming that he is from Belgium, abjured inidan passport 17 years ago, if that is true, he has no right to be here speaking about India he should join european union websites and debate there. I would like to meet Chris in Dubai, (anybody can visit me in tweeter, Linkedin, FB, and so many forums related to oil and gas industry. Let the fake person also join Chris if at all he is in Dubai. 03rd September. |
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| DONY LOBO, Milagres, Mangalooru,Doha, Qatar |
Aug 31, 2010 |
“i am open to suggestions from mature seniors like dony lobo, austin prabhu, kudpi shenoy….”K Shenoy, India
Dear Shenoybaab,
My humble thanks to you for placing me in the company of eminent people, and even though I feel I do not deserve this honour, however I humbly bow my head and fold my hands greeting you “Namaskar” accept your kind words as a “Certificate” from one of the most celebrated contributor in the E.Y.T |
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| DONY LOBO, MILAGRES, DOHA,, Qatar |
Aug 31, 2010 |
“Muslims do not believe in separation of church and state”… Tony, USA:
Dear Tonyji,
Your statement is too generalized. Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Algeria,Tunis. Kazakstan, Kirgystan, etc. are also Muslim countries which I do not think come under the above description.
Besides may be you did not realize the implications of your using the word “church and state” rather than “religion and state”….while referring to the Muslims way of governance....and I still do not believe it just doesn't matter if Obama is Christian or Muslim. By his constant Bangalore bashing, and repeated expression of outrage against outsourcing speaks volumes of his attitude about Indians. |
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| D.P.Kumar, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Former Mayor K. Ashraf is the present Corporator from our area. Instead of being a helpful person, he has been problem creator.
A few months back, I am told, he sent his personnel to dig the road in front of our apartment. Even after several months the dug out portion is not filled in.
On complaining to the MCC, I am asked to contact the corporator. His mobile number was given to me. Till date, the same could not be connected!!!
After his winning the seat as corporator, he has never visited the area.
Similarly, petty shops are removed, destroyed and road side vegetable and other vendors who are from lower strata of society are driven. But no action has been taken against BIg sharks who have violated building norms, raised their buildings with encroachment, who do not allow road widening, who sell parking space in their buildings for shops etc.
Alas, the elections are fought and won on the basis of religion; and people seem to be unaware of their rights and reasons for their plights. |
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| Chris Rego, UAE |
Aug 31, 2010 |
I did not respond to that part of his comment as we have seen, time and again, his attempt to malign Hinduism to artificially prep up his idea of his religion, so that he can feel better about himself. - Kiran
I don't need to prep up Christianity, mate! It has and will 'stand' by itself. A mere mortal like me can do little to 'prep' it up.
Regarding my "attempt to malign Hinduism", you couldn't be further away from the truth. Once again, it too has stood for ages and shall too.
The unfortunate problem with you is that, you like to read ONLY what you WANT to read. And if ever somebody else or I go against your preconceived notions and raise questions, you are a tad too quick to label it as "anti Hinduism" or whatever. It becomes absolutely laughable when my comments on RSS/VHP etc are clubbed as "anti-Hindu' or 'maligning Hinduism' etc. Pretty much unfortunate, isn't it? You seem to have a balanced head atop your shoulders. Hence, don''t let yourself down, mate.
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To revert to your earlier post, you must be a great believer in what Krishna said - "It is much more difficult to focus on God as the un-manifested, than God with form, due to human beings having the need to perceive via the senses". On that account, I agree 100% coz all of us rely largely on our senses to relate or connect.
Further, Vishnu Samhita, an ancient ritual text, persuasively endorses the use of imagery and puts it:
"Without a form how can God be mediated upon? If (He is) without any form, where will the mind fix itself? When there is nothing for the mind to attach itself to, it will slip away from meditation or will glide into a state of slumber. Therefore the wise will meditate on some form, remembering, however, that the form is a superimposition and not a reality."
So, if you take a look at what you wrote - "When naaga is worshiped, it is not the snake that is worshiped, it is the formless behind the form that is worshiped, which manifests certain qualities in this form", doesn't your usage of the words "manifests certain qualities" negate what the above-mentioned text says about "not a reality"? That is - the worshiper BELIEVES that certain traits/qualities of the formless will come-on to the object of worship. Doesn't that translate to 'REALITY'? Your clarifications/thoughts, please. |
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| Judith L, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
This is exactly how we function in our Basic Christian Community to see that the basic needs of our community are met. Now, coming to the nation, the same strategy as you said can be applied but who will take the risk, as you have seen the RTI activist are killed for asking an explaination. Our Country desperately needs one more revolution but till then what about the basic necessities of poor people.
I invite other like minded also, to give their comments. |
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| Vinod Raghuvir Shetty, Belgium |
Aug 31, 2010 |
| Shenoy - Which Masala Shenoy(: is it your home made masala or RSS masala, did you get constipated, you better watch your health we need you in this forum for secular mask with communal aim. Your comment has shown your true colour that RSS chelas are always behind back they do not come in front. |
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| Om Shetty, India |
Aug 31, 2010 |
It has created a great resistance of modern time against the tirade of pseudo secularism.
Even though Hinduism survived the tirade of Muslms in the middle age
It would have been very difficult for it to survive the modern day pseudo secularism if it was not for the RSS to put the resistance.
Every Hindu must be thankful to RSS. |
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| Austin Noronha, Qatar |
Aug 31, 2010 |
I am perplexed why your diodes and Cathodes do not work with fake Shetty, Steve and such fanatics? - NSS
NSS my comment was aimed at those who were in favour of ban on cow slaughter. Did VRS & Steve comment in favour of ban any time? Hope this clarifies your doubt. |
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| Ganprix, France |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Hi Managloreans,
We would like to see Indian Movie star Jackie Shoreff's movie directed by Subhash Ghai on any International theme or character.
We are sure to have melodious music and eye pleasing pictures.
Can it be made possible ?
Merci, |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
"It matters whether Obama is Christian or Muslim. Muslims do not believe in separation of church and state." - Tony, USA
So, you apply the same logic in Indian politics as well? Going by your logic, almost 18% of India's population is not fit to participate in secular democracy.
Just curious - Did you support Congress(Indira)? |
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| Original R.Pai, USA |
Aug 31, 2010 |
Savyasaachi,
Thanks for understanding what I wrote on Indian rivers. I honestly don't expect 'Steve alias Ravi' to understand or appreciate these as he has been "programmed" to hate the native culture.
Coming to the pollution of our rivers today - yes - it is very dissappointing. We have turned into a very selfish society with little respect to our own country, natural resources and culture.
Why rivers? Take a look at the local ponds ('kere' in kannada). We have successfully killed most of the local ponds to turn them into apartments or houses.
Remember - DP maam wrote about 'mother earth'. And you wrote on how there is a difference between 'training' we get at local institutions and 'Jnyaaana'. All these point at what we have lost over generations as a society. |
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| SHENOY R, India |
Aug 30, 2010 |
and I feel that something is burning from inside...(:
- V R S
That is the masala from day before burning your back. So watch it man. |
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| Steve, Australia |
Aug 30, 2010 |
"Steve, if you don't mind, you may review as to whether such 'hate a community in isolation' would serve any purpose" - D P Kumar, who believes that I hate Brahmins.
Dear D P Kumar,
Please go through my posts. Nowhere have I said that Brahmins or for that matter any community should be liked or hated.
A community does not have a collective mind-set or conscience. A community does not collectively decide what it should do or how it should annihilate another community. If it does happen, it would be an extremely rare event.
However, when foreigners go to a new place, they may treat the local people differently, because they don't know/understand the local culture.
Brahmins make up a community. So do Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Aborigines etc. And there are communities within these communities.
Each of these communities does not decide anything collectively - how to tackle another community.
It is the individuals and organisations - who often act to deliberately create hatred among people. Organisations exist for some purpose. The purpose why RSS exists is to create fear and mayhem.
It is the individuals and organisations that sow the seeds of hatred.
When many Indians write about British, they are talking about a community. But it was the British Government - an organisation - that controlled parts of India. Not the British community.
When RSS (an organisation) writes about other communities like Christians, it is deliberate malice. RSS writes again and again that all Christians go about converting people. RSS propagates even worse views about another minority.
Then the RSS chelas, who have been brainwashed, also write that a certain community caused this problem and that problem to their dear country. Just as the other day, someone writes on EYT if any Christians ever achieved anything in India.
The communities - whether Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Aborigines etc - do not achieve anything. It is the individuals within the community that achieve something/anything.
If you follow Kiran's writing, all evil present in India is caused by certain communities. Original Pai's writing is no different. He blames the communities.
Is the head priest of Pejawar any different? He has always blamed certain communities. |
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| Kiran, USA |
Aug 30, 2010 |
MUMBAI: A Right to Information (RTI) activist who was in the forefront in exposing corruption in PDS, foodgrain and fuel distribution in the Marathwada region has been found dead in Nanded. --Judith
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/13-lakh-tonnes-of-grain-wasted-SC-commissioners/articleshow/6464369.cms |
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| K Shenoy, India |
Aug 30, 2010 |
nazeer saheb, i must have hurt your feelings some days ago with my arrogant post. i apologise unconditionally for that, and may i ask you to be my friend forever
I am totally blown out by your recent posts in eyt that are strong enough to build up amicable relationship within mangaloreans.
hats off to you bro'
my e-mail id is formal88@gmail.com. |
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